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Two other things -

1. I personally am proud of all members of Team USA. I know that none of them caved under pressure, worked as hard as possible and positively contributed to the team effort this year. Kudos to all of my team mates.

2. I also have to give Tony's parents (Carla and Paul) mad props. They fully support Tony and his brother Andy (a golden demon winner), dropped a pretty penny to ensure he could be here in Switzerland with them as guardians and were there throughout the entire event. It was great to finally meet Tony, have some laughs (and beer because his parents are frickin' cool as hell) and see him wreck a lot of people.

One final note - the representation across the clubs and US is increasing even more. We had members from BOLS, Wrecking Crew, Da Boyz, Codex Toledo and two independents. I see the selection process opening that up even more for the 2012 team, which is sweet. If you are interested in possibly qualifying, check out the following link:

http://teamamerica40k.com/?page_id=6

Great meeting you again and hopefully, we'll meet again in some other tournament.
And congratulations!

/Pär - Swedish Dark Eldar copy/paste/netlist

Congrats to all on a great finish. Special shout out to sabote who played for Wales and represented the Blade n Bolter Boyz.

Do the ETC Captains ever discuss the possibility of opening up additional spots for larger countries? I.e. the USA - we are big enough to have mulitple teams represent. NE, SE, Midwest, West.




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Bikeninja wrote:Congrats to all on a great finish. Special shout out to sabote who played for Wales and represented the Blade n Bolter Boyz.

Seconded!

Congrats guys! I'm prouder of the tie for best sport honestly as at something like this that would mean more to me too. Awesome job. Next year 1st place

@Aldonis

Basically you'd have to form a team from one of our protectorates though I'm not sure how it would work. I brought it up before the first year and they are pretty solid on only allowing the United States itself 1 team even if all of Europe could fit into one of our states

Thanks for all the kind words guys, we work hard to represent all the US 40k players, and we are really excited to have won the first ever ETC Medal for the USA. We are equally honored to share the best sportsmanship prize with our close friends the Swedes. We know we are ambassadors for all USA 40k players, and so always play with honor and enthusiasm.

I'm really proud of my guys, our team played their hearts out and everyone did exactly what I expected of them. Two years ago, no one in the States had heard of the ETC. Now we have won a medal, invented a robust qualification process, and generated a lot of enthusiasm for the event in our country. I'm pretty proud of that.

In the coming days and weeks I'll do my best to give the play by play people are looking for and summarize the great experience we had.

-Ben Mohlie

Guys, for a tournament junkie like me reading about this has been a real treat.

Congrats on your placement and good luck next year!!!

Well done, guys! Ach, I came within striking distance of making the team this year. Hopefully I will make it next year.

Sounds like a great time and I hope to see us win it next go around!

Congrats to the 40K team! Sorry we couldn't scrape out a few extra points on the fantasy side to bring home a double medal for the US, but I think we are going to be in excellent position next year.

All the fantasy guys are really proud of you guys. We need to work on a coordinated outfit next year!

Aldonis wrote:Do the ETC Captains ever discuss the possibility of opening up additional spots for larger countries? I.e. the USA - we are big enough to have mulitple teams represent. NE, SE, Midwest, West.

You know the Europeans...they follow soccer teams as what is allowed in the ETC. That is why the UK gets to send 4 teams when California is bigger than all 4 of them combined by almost anyway you want to measure it.

Here is a list of countries that are in FIFA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_men%27s_national_association_football_teams#UEFA_.28Europe.29

Now as Hulksmash said, there might be some wiggle room if you are motivated enough. Last year the Danes sent 2 teams. One for Denmark, and one representing the Faroe Islands (And yes, I had never heard of it before either). So the precedence has been set where you can form a team off of a territory. So it might be possible to form a US Virgin Island team or a Puerto Rico team.

So by RAW, Puerto Rico can goto the ETC.

Go Go Team Guam or American Samoa!

Hulksmash wrote:Go Go Team Guam or American Samoa!

Sure, provided that at least 4 of the players on any team can prove their nationality is thus (so passport, or birth certificate, or parent(s) birth certificate(s)) and that nation is FIFA recognised they can enter.

If they can't they are likely to be turned away at the door and will have made a quite expensive trip for nothing. This is why there was no Team Faeroe Islands this year.

Inquisitor_Malice wrote:
One final note - the representation across the clubs and US is increasing even more. We had members from BOLS, Wrecking Crew, Da Boyz, Codex Toledo and two independents. I see the selection process opening that up even more for the 2012 team, which is sweet. If you are interested in possibly qualifying, check out the following link:

http://teamamerica40k.com/?page_id=6

It is an interesting idea to ask the top Generals from 4 major events to play on the American team for the next ETC. I remember a German player from this year (I think it was Germany) saying so and so was the best Tyranid player in Germany. The best Tyranid player in Germany might never win a tournament because of his codex, but that doesn't mean he doesn't give his ETC team the best chance to win.

Wouldn't it be a better idea to take some of the best, veteran players from 8 different army books rather than take 4 of the best Grey Knight (I chose a random army) players and then hope 3 of them can adapt to another army?


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Hulksmash wrote:Go Go Team Guam or American Samoa!

Sure, provided that at least 4 of the players on any team can prove their nationality is thus (so passport, or birth certificate, or parent(s) birth certificate(s)) and that nation is FIFA recognised they can enter.

If they can't they are likely to be turned away at the door and will have made a quite expensive trip for nothing. This is why there was no Team Faeroe Islands this year.

Maybe the Europeans can keep their European Team Championship tournament and the Americans can start the World Team Championships over here.

DarthDiggler wrote:Maybe the Europeans can keep their European Team Championship tournament and the Americans can start the World Team Championships over here.

And that would be different from the ETC how? If you mean so as to allow multiple American teams to enter as individual states then surely that is what the ATC is for?

DarthDiggler wrote: It is an interesting idea to ask the top Generals from 4 major events to play on the American team for the next ETC. I remember a German player from this year (I think it was Germany) saying so and so was the best Tyranid player in Germany. The best Tyranid player in Germany might never win a tournament because of his codex, but that doesn't mean he doesn't give his ETC team the best chance to win.

Wouldn't it be a better idea to take some of the best, veteran players from 8 different army books rather than take 4 of the best Grey Knight (I chose a random army) players and then hope 3 of them can adapt to another army?

This is one of the biggest weaknesses of the American selection process (IMO). There are codexes that are better then others, and you could end up with 4 Space Wolf players, or Grey Knight players or whatever the flavor of the year is. Heck, you could be a mediocre player and win a tournament with 6 Psyfleman dreads with Coteaz and his zoo crew/purifier spam.

If you are asking people to switch armies and you will never be as good as a good player who knows their army inside and out.

That's a really good point that I hadn't considered Blackmoor.

So the best way you would need like a throne of skulls type event only with no player favorite score to figure out who would play for each codex?

We're a really big country and the "national scene" just isn't really there for the USA like it is in say, the UK.

Compound that with the fact that the trip for any American (or Aussie, New Zealander, etc) is going to be inherently more expensive than it would be for someone from say, the UK, to make due to air fare....you only have a limited pool of "great players" who can make that commitment to play at the ETC.

I say good on the guys putting that kind of thing together, and trying to have some kind of system where the few larger regional events can help decide who can get on the big team. Our system will have a lot of flaws, but the problem it's trying to solve is complex enough that any answer that would work is not going to be ideal.

Voodoo! Long time no see! I thought you had left dakka far behind.

LOL, thanks. I'm around, just coming back to the hobby after a while from a work-induced hiatus.

To try and come back to the thread....in a similar "seeing hobby-friends I've not seen in a while - I had head over to my local GW for an escalation tourney and saw some old friends, and later I check on this thread and I find out one of the guys I saw was on our ETC team (Go Paul, east coast represent!).

Congratulations to the US team and everyone else involved in the ETC.

European friend sent me the top 8 lists from the singles tournament and I found these quite interesting. Grey Knights won it all but Eldar did quite well along with Tyranids and Orks making a showing. Only one Space Wolves and list is a bit different then usual only 1 long fang squad. A bit different then what we see in the US. There was no special characters allowed so that changes things somewhat.

1st

PLAYER 6: Juho Klemola
ARMY DESCRIPTION : Grey Knights

HQ1 : Ordo Malleus Inquisitor (25) Terminator Armour (40) Psycannon (15) 3 Servo-skulls (3*3) [89pts]
HQ2 : Ordo Malleus Inquisitor (25) Terminator Armour (40) Psycannon (15) [80pts]
Elite1 : 4 Purifiers (4*24) 2 Psycannons (2*10) 1 Nemesis Daemonhammer (5) 1 Nemesis Force Halberd (1*2) KOTF (24) Nemesis Force Halberd (2) in Transport1 [149pts]
Elite2 : 4 Purifiers (4*24) 2 Psycannons (2*10) 1 Nemesis Daemonhammer (5) 1 Nemesis Force Halberd (1*2) KOTF (24) Nemesis Force Halberd (2) in Transport2 [149pts]
Elite3 : 5 Purifiers (5*24) 2 Psycannons (2*10) 1 Nemesis Daemonhammer (5) 1 Nemesis Force Halberd (2) in Transport3 [147pts]
Elite4 : 4 Warrior Acolytes (4*4) 3 Meltaguns (3*10) in Transport4 [46pts]
Troop1 : 5 Grey Knights (5*20) Psycannon (10) in Transport5 [110pts]
Troop2 : 5 Grey Knights (5*20) Psycannon (10) in Transport6 [110pts]
Troop3 : 5 Grey Knights (5*20) Psycannon (10) in Transport7 [110pts]
HS1 : Dreadnought (115) Twin-linked Autocannon (10) Twin-linked Autocannon (5) Psybolt Ammunition (5) [135pts]
HS2 : Dreadnought (115) Twin-linked Autocannon (10) Twin-linked Autocannon (5) Psybolt Ammunition (5) [135pts]
HS3 : Dreadnought (115) Twin-linked Autocannon (10) Twin-linked Autocannon (5) Psybolt Ammunition (5) [135pts]
Transport1 : Razorback (45) Psybolt Ammunition (5) transporting Elite1 [50pts]
Transport2 : Razorback (45) Psybolt Ammunition (5) transporting Elite2 [50pts]
Transport3 : Razorback (45) Psybolt Ammunition (5) transporting Elite3 [50pts]
Transport4 : Chimera (55) Hull Heavy Flamer (0) transporting Elite4 [55pts]
Transport5 : Razorback (45) Psybolt Ammunition (5) transporting Troop1 [50pts]
Transport6 : Razorback (45) Psybolt Ammunition (5) transporting Troop2 [50pts]
Transport7 : Razorback (45) Psybolt Ammunition (5) transporting Troop3 [50pts]

TOTAL [1750pts]

2nd
PLAYER 2: Denis Korzun (Avessalom)
ARMY DESCRIPTION: Eldar

HQ 1: Farseer (55), Runes of Warding (15), Runes of Witnessing (10), Spirit Stones (20), Doom (25), Fortune (30), Guide (20), Eldar Jetbike (30), Singing Spear (3) = 208
HQ 2: Avatar of Khaine = 155
HQ 3: 7*Warlocks (140), 7*Eldar Jetbikes (140), Embolden (5), Enhance (15), 3*Singing Spear(9)= 344

Elites 1: 5*Fire dragons (80), Exarh(12), Firepike(3), Crack Shot(5) = 100
Elites 2: 5*Fire dragons (80), Exarh(12), Firepike(3), Crack Shot(5) = 100

Troops 1: 3*Guardian Jetbikes (66) = 66
Troops 2: 10*Guardians (80), Scatter Laser (15) = 95
Troops 3: 11*Guardians (88), Scatter Laser (15) = 103

Heavy Support 1: 3*War Walker (90), 6*Scatter Laser (90) = 180
Heavy Support 2: Falcon (115), Missile Launcher (20), Holo Fields (35), Spirit Stones (10) = 180
Heavy Support 3: Falcon (115), Missile Launcher (20), Holo Fields (35), Spirit Stones (10) = 180

Total: 1748 pts

3rd
PLAYER1: Stepan Zotov, 'Stepan'

Army Description: Grey Knights

HQ1 : Grey Knight Grand Master (175), Psyhotroke Grenades (15), Rad Grenades (15), Blind Grenades (5), Digital Weapons (5), Master Crafted Weapon (5), Servo-Skull (5) [225pts]
HQ2: Grey Knight Librarian (150), Sanctuary (5), Shrouding (5), Might of Titan (5), Nemesis Force Halberd (5), Servo-Skull (5) [175pts]

Elite 1: Purifiers X 10 (240), 9 X Nemesis Force Halberds (18), Nemesis Force Hammer (5) [263pts]

Troop 1: Grey Knight Strike Squad X 5 (100) [100pts]
Troop 2: Grey Knight Strike Squad X 10 (200), Psybolt Ammunition (20), 2 X Psycannon (20) [240pts]

Fast Attack 1: Storm Raven (205), Twin-Linked Lascannon, Twin-Linked Multi-Melta, Searchlight (1) [206pts].

Heavy Support 1: Dreadnought (115), Twin-Linked Autocannon (10), Twin-Linked Autocannon (5), Psybolt Ammunition (5) [135pts]
Heavy Support 2: Dreadnought (115), Twin-Linked Autocannon (10), Twin-Linked Autocannon (5), Psybolt Ammunition (5) [135pts]

Heavy Support 3: Land Raider Crusader (255pts), Psybolt Ammunition (5), Multi-melta (10), Searchlight (1) [271pts]

TOTAL [1750pts]


4th
Player: Simon Oerding, braindead
ARMY DESCRIPTION: Imperial Guard

HQ: Company Command Squad (50) + 3 Meltaguns (30) + Banner (15) + Laspistol (free) = 95 pts in Transport 1

Elite 1: 6 Battle Psykers + Overseer = 80 pts

Troop 1: Platoon Command Squad (30) + 4 Meltaguns (40) = 70 pts in Transport 2
Infantry Squad (50) + Commissar (35) = 85 pts
Infantry Squad (50) = 50 pts
Heavy Weapon Team (60) + 3 autocannons (15) = 75 pts
Heavy Weapon Team (60) + 3 autocannons (15) = 75 pts

Troop2: Veteran Squad (70) + 3 plasma guns (45) = 115 pts in Transport 3

FA1: Vendetta Gunship = 130 pts
FA2: Vendetta Gunship = 130 pts
FA3: Vendetta Gunship = 130 pts

HS1: Manticore (160) + heavy flamer = 160 pts
HS2: Manticore (160) + heavy flamer = 160 pts
HS3: Leman Russ Executioner (190) + plasma sponsons (40) + hull heavy bolter = 230 pts

Transport 1: Chimera (55) + heavy flamer [HQ] = 55 pts
Transport 2: Chimera (55) + heavy flamer [Troop1] = 55 pts
Transport 2: Chimera (55) + heavy bolter [Troop2] = 55 pts

Total: 1750 pts

5th
Player: Kayu „Fenneq“ Orellana
Army: Space Wulves

HQ1: Wolflord (100p), Saga of the bear (35), 1 x powerfist (25), 1 x Stormshield (30), thunderwolf (45), Runearmor (20), wolvetail talisman (5) [260p]
HQ2: Runepriest (100), chooser of the slain(10), living lightning(0), jaws(0) [110p]
HQ3: Runepriest (100), wolftail talisman (5), chooser of the slain (10), murderous hurricane (0), jaws (0) [115p]

Elite1: Dreadnought (105), dccw (0), Stormbolter(0),assaultcannon(0) [105 ]
Elite2: 5 Wolfscouts (5x15), Meltagun(10) [85]
Elite3: 3 Wolveguards in servopants (3x18): I. 1 x Kombi-Flamer(5), Powerfist (20) II. Kombimeltagun (5), Powerfist (20), III. Kombimeltagun(5), Powerfist (20)
2 Terminator-Guards (2x33): I. 1 x Stormbolter(0), 1 x Cyclonemissilelauncher (30), 1 x Powerweapon (0), II. 1 x Kombimeltagun (5), 1 x Chainfist (15) [245p]

troops1: 6 Greyhunters (6x15), Meltagun(5), Wolfbanner(10) in Transport 1 [105p]
troops2: 6 Greyhunters (6x15), Meltagun(5), Wolfbanner(10) in Transport 2 [105p]
troops3: 6 Greyhunters (6x15), Meltagun(5), Wolfbanner(10) in Transport 3 [105p]
troops1: 5 Greyhunters (5x15), Meltagun(5) in Transport 4 [80p]

FA1: 5 fenrisian wolves (5x8) [40p]
FA2: 1 Landspeeder (50), 1x Multimelta (10) [60p]

HS1: 6 Longfangs (6x15), 2 x Missilelauncher (2x10), 3 x Lascannons (3x25), Grimwolf (0) [185p]

Transport 1: Rhino (35), dozerblade(5) [40p]
Transport 2: Rhino (35), dozerblade(5) [40p]
Transport 3: droppod (35) [35p]
Transport 4: Rhino (35) [35p]
Total Points Space Wolves : 1750


6th
PLAYER 2: Pekka Koskivirta
ARMY DESCRIPTION : Tyranids

HQ1 : Tyranid Prime (80) pair of boneswords (10) scything talons (0) [90pts]
HQ2 : Tervigon(160) cluster spines (0) adrenal glands (10) toxin sacs (10) catalyst (15) [195pts]
Elite1 : 3 Hive Guard (3*50) [150pts]
Elite2 : 3 Hive Guard (3*50) [150pts]
Elite3 : 3 Hive Guard (3*50) [150pts]
Troop1 : 20 Genestealers (20*14) [280pts]
Troop2 : 20 Genestealers (20*14) [280pts]
Troop3 : 15 Genestealers (15*14) [210pts]
Troop4 : 10 Termagants (10*5) [50pts]
Troop5 : Tervigon(160) cluster spines (0) adrenal glands (10) toxin sacs (10) catalyst (15) [195pts]

TOTAL [1750]

7th
PLAYER7: Novikov Bogdan, ‘Sentinel’
Army Description: Eldar

HQ 1: Farseer (55), with whitchblade & shuriken pistol (0), Runes for warding (15), Runes of Witnessing (10), Spirit stones (20), Fortune (30), Guide (20), Doom (25) [175pts]
HQ 2: Avatar of Khaine [155pts]

ELITE 1: 5 Fire Dragons (5x16=80) [80pts]
ELITE 2: 5 Fire Dragons (5x16=80) [80pts]

TROOPS 1: 9 Dire Avengers (9x12=108), Exarch (12), Bladestorm (15), Twin shuriken catapult (5) [140pts]
TROOPS 2: 10 Dire Avengers [120pts]

HEAVY SUPPORT 1: Wraithlord, 2 flamers (0), Bright Lance (40), Eldar Missile Launcher (25) [155pts]
HEAVY SUPPORT 2: Wraithlord, 2 flamers (0), Bright Lance (40), Eldar Missile Launcher (25) [155pts]
HEAVY SUPPORT 3: 3 Warwalkers (3x30=90), with Scatter Lasers (6x15=90) [180pts]

TRANSPORT 1: Wave Serpent (90), Twin-Linked Shuriken Cannon (10), Spirit Stones (10) transporting ELITE 1 [110pts]
TRANSPORT 2: Wave Serpent (90), Twin-Linked Shuriken Cannon (10), Spirit Stones (10) transporting ELITE 2 [110pts]
TRANSPORT 3: Wave Serpent (90), Twin-Linked Bright Lance (45), Spirit Stones (10) transporting TROOPS 1 [145pts]
TRANSPORT 4: Wave Serpent (90), Twin-Linked Bright Lance (45), Spirit Stones (10) transporting TROOPS 2 [145pts]

TOTAL: [1750pts]


8th
Player: Philipp "PhiSt" Streckmann
Army: Orkz

HQ1 : Big Mek (35), Kustom force shield (50), boss pole(5) [90]

Elite1 : 5 Lootaz (5×15) :[75]
Elite2 : 5 Lootaz (5×15) :[75]

Troop 1 : 30 Boyz(30×6) nob(10) power claw(25) boss pole (5): [220]
Troop 2 : 30 Boyz(30×6) nob(10) power claw(25) boss pole (5): [220]
Troop 3 : 29 Boyz(29×6) shootaz (free) nob(10) power claw(25): [209]
Troop 4 : 29 Boyz(29×6) shootaz (free) nob(10) power claw(25) boss pole (5): [214]
Troop 5 : 25 Boyz(25×6) shootaz (free) nob(10) power claw(25) 2 big shootaz (2×5): [195]

FA1: Deffkopta (35) buzzsaw(25) :[60]

HS1: 3 Killa kans (3×35) 3xgrotzooka(3×10) :[135]
HS2: 3 Killa kans (3×35) 3xgrotzooka(3×10) :[135]
HS3: 3 Killa kans (3×35) 3xbig shootaz(3×5) :[120]

Total: 1748 pts

Random aside, but apparently that screenshot of Germany, Tony's game, the guy winning 18-2 is ... well, wrong / error / etc.

Game was an 11-9 or 11-8 win for the German, with a tie on Primary and Secondary respectively.

Blackmoor wrote:

DarthDiggler wrote: It is an interesting idea to ask the top Generals from 4 major events to play on the American team for the next ETC. I remember a German player from this year (I think it was Germany) saying so and so was the best Tyranid player in Germany. The best Tyranid player in Germany might never win a tournament because of his codex, but that doesn't mean he doesn't give his ETC team the best chance to win.

Wouldn't it be a better idea to take some of the best, veteran players from 8 different army books rather than take 4 of the best Grey Knight (I chose a random army) players and then hope 3 of them can adapt to another army?

This is one of the biggest weaknesses of the American selection process (IMO). There are codexes that are better then others, and you could end up with 4 Space Wolf players, or Grey Knight players or whatever the flavor of the year is. Heck, you could be a mediocre player and win a tournament with 6 Psyfleman dreads with Coteaz and his zoo crew/purifier spam.

If you are asking people to switch armies and you will never be as good as a good player who knows their army inside and out.

Yup. Many of the other teams work all year long on getting a mix of armies on the teams, deciding who will play what army, discussing each others armies, and team captains asking players to use different styles of list. The pairings of who plays who is a huge part of the tournament, and a team may need you to play something a bit different than your usual, so they have an army to match up against certain other armies.

They also practice, practice, practice against specific builds and lists, expecting that they may get matched up against those. It's not enough to know someone plays grey knights. The captain has to know the build you're using, and how well he can expect you to do if he tosses you up against a certain army. Or throws your army out, and lets the other guy pick your opponent.

Just taking 8 guys who took first at 8 tournaments won't be the best team. Half will need new armies. All will need the finances to go abroad. They'll need to be a lot of co-ordination in the months before the event.

The US team is still going to be way behind the curve on the little games and politics that lead up to the actual games. Which makes taking third even more of an achievement.

The singles tournament got me thinking.

Our guys do awful at that tournament. I think it might be because they are not as familiar with their armies as the others at it. Jon W. is really a Space Wolf player who brought Grey Knights, and Nick is of course an IG player who recently started playing DE. He brought his Black Templar out of moth balls from 4 years ago, and they both finished rather poorly.

I did a quick break down of the points for the first 4 rounds (and yes I know that a lot of factors go into it) but the worst performing armies are the ones that are not their normal armies (Shawn, Nick and Jon) Jay also performed below average, but there are reasons for that.

congrats to the other UK nations placings, and to the USA for their awesome performance.

next year team N.I's aiming for top 15 i'd say

@inq malice, was nice to put a face to the forum name, and meet some of your team over the course of the event. pity didn't get games vs you guys, but I did hear you lot disliked my army more than some

mikhaila wrote:...........................The US team is still going to be way behind the curve on the little games and politics that lead up to the actual games. Which makes taking third even more of an achievement.

Or possibly how pointless allot of the tinkering is.

Good players will beat "good" lists, the idea of getting a player to alter tournament winning play style and lists seems counter intuitive to me.

I wonder if there are plans to hold the event in the US at any point?

notprop wrote:

mikhaila wrote:...........................The US team is still going to be way behind the curve on the little games and politics that lead up to the actual games. Which makes taking third even more of an achievement.

Or possibly how pointless allot of the tinkering is.

Good players will beat "good" lists, the idea of getting a player to alter tournament winning play style and lists seems counter intuitive to me.

I wonder if there are plans to hold the event in the US at any point?

About as soon as the US is part of Europe I'd imagine.

The single player event at ETC was only 28 people IIRC. I might be wrong, but wasn't most players local Switzerlanders, and very few were actually ETC players, making the event a lot less competitive?
And I guess the ETC players who took part in the single event had to do with the list they brought, meant for the team event.

The players placed 1st and 6th are from the Finnish team.
Denis in second place is in Belarus team but lives in Sweden.
4th, 5th and 8th are all on the German team.
The two other guys I'm unsure of, but as you see, most players are ETC-players.

Since we had Denis' army in our car, I don't get how he managed to play with it in the ESC.
Go Denis!