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Melissia wrote:I'm okay with it as long as he bombs New Jersey.

>.> that setup took too long

I'm From New Jersey!!!

's all cool, bomb this place, it's worth it....

dogma wrote:

olympia wrote:
Remember, Seoul is in artillery range of the DPRK

SK forgot to research siege tech.

Noobs.

They've got a gak ton of Huskarls though.

If North Korea successfully bombed New Jersey, I would be tip my hat to Kim Jong-un and say, "Good shot, sir!"

I would also be more worried about the this whole destabilisation thing.

The good news is Kim Jong Il is dead, the bad news is Kim Jong Il is dead.

Homefront plot anyone?

Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:


wow

This is the most surreal thing I've ever seen.
I noticed there were one or two mourners who weren't weeping uncontrollably... I imagine that the North Korean Happy Fun-Time Loyalty Squad will be paying them a visit sometime soon.

Its unfathomable how a lot of the people over there truly are completely indoctrinated with the propaganda. I really cannot imagine it to the extent that some of them seem to be at.

Looks to me that cause of death has changed again, no longer fatigue, but apparently a huge MI.

Does anybody remember a PS1 game from the 90s called Nuclear Strike? One of the missions was to halt the invasion of the south by the north, with only a Apache helicopter standing between victory or defeat. Happy days!

MrDwhitey wrote:That was terrible Albatross. ( )

Y'know I finally figured out the typo in that.

Where it says R.I.P. it should say BURN IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY

Oh Kid, so mean to our glorious ex leader! Here, have some soothing music




Also marching like that looks like it takes far, far more effort than it should.

I also saw this thing on the BBC about this year, I assume it may be updated soon with his death (I got redirected here from looking at their news on the death), but try to spot the odd one out here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16089232

He's the only one in a jump suit though?

Chowderhead wrote:Eh. I'll miss his silly antics and hijinks.

Anyway, his son is in power now. Hopefully we can get a revolution up in that bitch, and we'll be down another crazy somebitch country.

A revolution in america


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This isn't a good thing. For all we know his son is even larger an idiot. At least the old kim had experience and wasn't using the nukes.

About 80% of North Korean national output is devoted to massive synchronised displays glorifying the Dear Leader and "juche".

Jihadin wrote:Forget about the tunnels under the DMZ?

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The ones that are like 1K deep going through solid rock?

The only tunnels under the DMZ that are public knowledge are not very elaborate. They're big enough for single file tanks, but not really much else and both ends are well known.

So those could exist, but we wouldn't know.

They do exist. I did a tour on one. In one hour they can push a regiment through fully equipped.

Tour stopped at the DMZ. Both sides has weapons pointed each other in a tunnel. A 50 cal on our side and 52 cal on their side behind steel walls.

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gorgon wrote:I'm no expert, but it seems to me that the North Koreans would probably be a lot less fanatical in their support of the Kims if they didn't have the constant threat of labor camps hanging over them. Sure, they try to brainwash everyone, but methinks that the omnipresent fear is a key factor here. I do know that people are smuggled out of NK. To me, that indicates at least some awareness of the outside world. Who wants to get smuggled -- at great risk -- out of heaven?

Also, I don't see either side actually welcoming a war of annihilation. There many in the north with family in the south, and vice versa. Their shared Korean ethnic identity is in some ways more important to them than their political affiliation.

Edit: Got ninja'ed by Flashman. I'll have to check that book out.

I had some South Korean roomates for a year or so, and it seems like there is no love lost for the North Koreans, relatives or not. A South Korean girl I was close friends with told me she'd rather marry a Japanese man than a North Korean.
The North Koreans, in my mind, are in the position of a man with nothing left to lose, and that is fairly scarey.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Can't say I'll miss him, lets hope the next one see's how China's been doing with the 'lesser communism' thing and follows their lead.

Becoming a horrifically repressive predatory capitalist state instead of a horrifically repressive degenerated workers' state? Not sure I see the benefit for the average Korean or the rest of the world (beside giving corporations another source of easily exploitable outsource-labour, which both subjects that source of labour to dire conditions for barely any pay and takes work opportunities away from labourers in the source country, hardly a thing to be celebrated in times of soaring unemployment)

Relapse wrote:

gorgon wrote:I'm no expert, but it seems to me that the North Koreans would probably be a lot less fanatical in their support of the Kims if they didn't have the constant threat of labor camps hanging over them. Sure, they try to brainwash everyone, but methinks that the omnipresent fear is a key factor here. I do know that people are smuggled out of NK. To me, that indicates at least some awareness of the outside world. Who wants to get smuggled -- at great risk -- out of heaven?

Also, I don't see either side actually welcoming a war of annihilation. There many in the north with family in the south, and vice versa. Their shared Korean ethnic identity is in some ways more important to them than their political affiliation.

Edit: Got ninja'ed by Flashman. I'll have to check that book out.

I had some South Korean roomates for a year or so, and it seems like there is no love lost for the North Koreans, relatives or not. A South Korean girl I was close friends with told me she'd rather marry a Japanese man than a North Korean.
The North Koreans, in my mind, are in the position of a man with nothing left to lose, and that is fairly scarey.

It would probably be helpful to have someone from the ROK chime in on this (I know we have members there), but I think there could be a generational gap at work here. Which would be understandable given that younger people have certainly never met, nor probably know much about any relatives in the DPRK, etc. The Korean folks I'm familiar with seem to have a less adversarial attitude, but then we're talking about an overall older group of churchgoers. And that sample is of Koreans living in the US...things may be tenser on the peninsula.

Jihadin wrote:They do exist. I did a tour on one. In one hour they can push a regiment through fully equipped.

Tour stopped at the DMZ. Both sides has weapons pointed each other in a tunnel. A 50 cal on our side and 52 cal on their side behind steel walls.

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A division in one hour. 4 tunnels found

Pretty sure we're talking about the same tunnels, lol.

Maybe they're deeper than I thought or shallower than you thought.

So Cuba declared 3 days of mourning for the Dear Leader.

Flags at half mast and everything.

For a man directly responsible for millions of deaths on a scale not seen since the dayhs of Mao.

Here in the Caribbean Cuba can just do no wrong. Everyone imagines it as this happy little island the yanks are picking on for some odd reason.

But when they do gak like this it shows that no, communism is not just an alternate economic system. Maybe on paper it is, maybe in a freshman polisci class it is, but in the real world it means throwing in your lot with the likes of Stalin, Mao and the Kims. It means pledging solidarity with people who happily run over protestors with tanks and send millions to prison camps.

I hope everyone remembers the day Cuba bared its true face.

I just realized how preposterously ugly NK uniforms are. Oh well. The worse their uniforms look, the better ours do!

Nice post, K_K. I couldn't have said it better.

Can't wait for the inbound "But Those Countries aren't REAL Communists" rebuttal.

I don't want to say I'm glad that someone is dead, but I know I'll sleep a little easier at night knowing there's not a short little guy in creepy glasses plotting new forms of crazy just for the sake of outdoing his current forms of crazy.

grayshadow87 wrote:I don't want to say I'm glad that someone is dead, but I know I'll sleep a little easier at night knowing there's not a short little guy in creepy glasses plotting new forms of crazy just for the sake of outdoing his current forms of crazy.

Just hope his son is better rather than worse!

Monster Rain wrote:Can't wait for the inbound "But Those Countries aren't REAL Communists" rebuttal.

Somewhat delayed.

Warning: biased website and video from "The View" at the link. You have been warned.

That was a bit mind bogling. Think she needs to meet more people who went through and survive under some of those gov't