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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 21:35:22
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Huge Bone Giant
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Stop playing? No, I have models, and even rules if I want to use them. Stop purchasing? Already slowed considerably, now its going to be glacial. Alternate retailers to save? Meh, I will support my FLGS as I always have; they deserve every penny they get, even if everyone agrees GW is getting too much. It is getting hard to find new people though, especially without owning an actual second army for them to play with - good thing new folk and casual RPG'ers never complain about things like "proxy" or "wysiwyg". I am pretty good about getting people to play various games, but with GW it's quickly becoming a "Do you already have models?" not a "Are you interested in the game?" issue.
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"It is not the bullet with your name on it that should worry you, it's the one labeled "To whom it may concern. . ."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 21:57:10
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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CDK wrote:I'm curious as to how many are single with a job. Them I can understand sticking to 40k no matter what. But I've got a wife and three kids. Buying figures, without already selling some first, is a once a year on my birthday thing.
This is basically how I've gotten (not entirely by choice).. My wife loves DnD gaming, I love TT wargaming, but I really love the painting/modeling side of things more than I do the gaming... I've gotten out of the doghouse for "buying yet more crap" with the wife, when I explain that its a bunch of Reaper minis for our DnD games... When I saw the new prices, I basically told her that I'll keep playing, probably keep the rulebooks and codices up to date, but I highly doubt I'll be getting more armies, or more for armies that I have now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 22:50:47
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
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I'm staying and may even be building a new army, but not until after my current ones are painted and not until I get a real job of course, but still planning on staying with GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 04:28:12
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The price rises irritate me, but the impending new edition terrifies me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 04:30:18
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Anyone still buying models shouldn't be surprised when the price inevitably rises again...
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Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
Mother earth is pregnant for the third time, for y'all have knocked her up. I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe, but I was not offended. For I knew I had to rise above it all, or drown in my own gak. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 04:44:20
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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TLDR, but I basically have my chaos and ork armies right around where I want them for my usual 2500pt games, with my Orks scaling up to the occasional Apoc game thanks to a stompa and a custom superheavy. Probably won't buy much more new stuff, I prefer (and have gotten most of both these armies) secondhand from ebay. What I do buy brand spankin' new is Dystopian Wars. Love the models, love the universe, and especially I love the rules. It's got some real headscratchers, but for the most part all facets of the game are fairly well explained, and complex scenarios are easy to reason out. A simple and common across all parts of the game dice mechanic helps immensely.
Oh, did I mention it's a helluva lot cheaper than GW (mostly because it's a smaller scale). I really feel more like I'm playing a Strategy game than the squad tactics that most of 40k boils down too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 05:41:35
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Umber Guard
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infinite_array wrote:
You actually have some people who aren't interested in 'wargaming', but interested in the setting/fluff of a game. They don't want a mind-stimulating, tactically-rewarding game. They want to put their Space Marines and Orks and Eldar and Tau down on the table, crack open a beer, and roll some dice. (And that's totally fine. It's when they start saying that GW's rules are the best that I start to get a little 'twitchy')
This concept has always puzzled me somewhat, as I cannot really think of many parallells to it with other IPs. Are there people who only read Wheel of Time and no other books? People who exclusively play World of Warcraft or Battletech-related products? Refuse to watch anything but Transformers movies (now that would be almost as sad as only reading WoT books...)? There are some tech similaries (I'm a Mapple Person sic Lisa Simpson, Ah Ohly Drive (insert car brand)) but there are also practical reasons for those decicions due to platform compatibility and/or the sheer price of individual products.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 06:42:47
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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infinite_array wrote:Kaldor wrote:garrapignado wrote:I don't like "wargames", I just like Warhammer/Warhammer 40k.
Eh? That's like saying "I'm not gay, but my boyfriend is"
If you like playing with miniatures, I'll guarantee you'll like some that aren't GW.
And every time you upgrade to a new edition, you're basically playing an entirely different game.
It's only a tiny step from there to actually playing a different game. Have a look around, I guarantee you'll surprise yourself.
Actually, I'm going to side with Garra here, oddly enough.
You actually have some people who aren't interested in 'wargaming', but interested in the setting/fluff of a game. They don't want a mind-stimulating, tactically-rewarding game. They want to put their Space Marines and Orks and Eldar and Tau down on the table, crack open a beer, and roll some dice. (And that's totally fine. It's when they start saying that GW's rules are the best that I start to get a little 'twitchy')
Then you've got the people who want a complex, mentally stimulating game, which 40k/Fantasy aren't. They're the ones who'll eventually start looking at other rulesets and miniature companies.
I'd agree, except it's not a "one or the other" thing. If you play any miniature wargame, then you are a wargamer. You might only like the IP of a single game, but it's a flexible concept and over time you'll find there are other things out there you might like as well.
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"Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel? Did you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? A whole existence spent praising your God, but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 07:21:55
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Just bought my planned "last" purchase of GW. Dakka Jet. However, I might pic up a model here or there depending on need for tournaments or just something fun. Will I start another army? No. Finished 3,500 points of IG and about 3,000 of orks.
Getting into Malifaux. Pros, cheap, not alot of room to play, stores in a smaller area. Cons, alot of rules. Really, Malifaux minis are just as detailed as any GW and cheap.
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2,000 points
265 point detachment
Imperial Knight detachment: 375
Iron Hands: 1,850
where ever you go, there you are |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 13:11:18
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Hacking Shang Jí
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The same with Infinitiy. Individually about the same or more expensive but I only need 10-15 figs to play! I got an alien faction ready to play for under $100 and have hardly added to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 17:00:31
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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I'm on the bandwagon who will occasionally add to their existing armies, but never start a new one.
I already have 2 armies of marines, Necrons, Sisters of Battle, some Kroot mercs, and now Eldar. That's more than enough to play 40K for years and years, just with add-ons (like a flyer, or a tank/dread equivalent) once in a while to keep things "new".
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 17:16:49
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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AegisGrimm wrote:I'm on the bandwagon who will occasionally add to their existing armies, but never start a new one.
Yea, I'm in that same boat. I'm also working on reducing the number of armies I have as well. I think I'm going to be dumping all of my Dark Eldar stuff (a lot) and only keeping Necrons, Orks, and Marines. I'm already down to three Fantasy armies and those are pretty well kitted out so the only new purchases for those should be when Bretonnians get updated. Otherwise I think I'm done purchasing there.
I am getting into Warmahordes a little with the intent of only doing Skorne until I learn the system and then only picking up a Khaldor army as my second. Outside that, I'm pretty much set there, too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 17:29:53
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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Bought 3 pots of paint, and 1 box of chaos marines in 12 months.
So probably won't change for me
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men.
Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 18:07:13
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Stubborn Eternal Guard
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To be honest I am not that bothered with the price increase. I have a budget which I will stick to, Just priced up my next Army; 1500pts DE coven army and comes in around £300, that is very achievable with a budget.
Now if I were to drop the £300 in one go I may get into trouble with the Mrs. Much easier sneaking a box or two onto my to do pile rather than a whole army.
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snurl wrote:I would like to build the Infinity stairs, but they will take forever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 18:38:16
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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Just an incentive to stop buying and start painting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 18:47:08
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'll still be here. I'll be starting a Chaos army when their new book comes out. I'll probably be buying a fair amount of Forge World pieces to go with it as they look cool as hell. If it has Lost and Damned, then those FW renegades will be fun to model and paint!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 18:50:18
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Powerful Irongut
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I probably won't change very much, I buy a fair amount from Games Workshop, but more often from other sites like ebay
Though I think I'll be buying from Forge World still relatively regularly, after all Forge World is oft cheaper than GW nowadays
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Grimstonefire wrote:I am feeling quite confident that by this time next year I will be holding a new CD model in my hand (07/07/10). Someone can sig that if they want.  |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 19:36:32
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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kronk wrote:I'll still be here. I'll be starting a Chaos army when their new book comes out. I'll probably be buying a fair amount of Forge World pieces to go with it as they look cool as hell. If it has Lost and Damned, then those FW renegades will be fun to model and paint!
i am going to buy a 2000 point all thousand sons force once that comes out, and if that isnt possible with the new dex, i will just use it as C: SM
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Frigian 582nd "the regulars" with thousand sons detachment
5th Edition
W : L : D
23 : 20 : 7
6th Edition
W : L : D
Don't Know...alot of each
Bretonnians
W : L : D
4 : 2 : 0
"Those are Regulars! By God!" -Major General Phineas Riall
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/08 23:39:33
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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n0t_u wrote:Happened on the 4th. I think for some reason we didn't get it here this year, which would be quite refreshing.
Yes we did.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 01:33:06
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Im keeping my Ork horde for sure, but Ive been done with buying GW for awhile now. I just think their prices are far to high for what I get. Its forced me to look else where at other companies and such, so Im going to broaden my horizons I guess, or just pursue a different hobby all together.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 02:49:49
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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KingCracker wrote:Im keeping my Ork horde for sure, but Ive been done with buying GW for awhile now. I just think their prices are far to high for what I get. Its forced me to look else where at other companies and such, so Im going to broaden my horizons I guess, or just pursue a different hobby all together.
But KC, there is only THE Hobby... there are no others  now back to your green little corner until you've learnt your lesson
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 02:59:43
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I do not want to buy anything from GW ever again. Because I have too much to paint and too little time.
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From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 03:37:54
Subject: Re:after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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My plans are to get a squad of Wraithguard and the cool 2nd ed Eldar Rangers with my $100 in 30th b-day gift certificates.
Then some plastic Wraiths to finally finish my 3rd Ed metal Necron army, as I hate the old versions look/exorbitant price.
Then possibly a Dark Eldar Razorwing for my Eldar Pirates (using Vehicle Design Rules as a Nightwing Interceptor for 4th edition-use).
Then either a Triarch Stalker OR a Night Scythe to VDR for 4th edition(earlier codex) use. I'm torn between the two.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 03:48:21
Subject: after the GW price increases, how.many of us will stay with Warhammer?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I'm not going to quit playing 40K. I've been there since it was concieved (nod nod, wink wink, know what i mean...).
I won't be buying anything else for my main army (Orks) after i've got my three Bommas (unless i decide i need 9  ) unless they release a new unit that really really wows me, and those are pretty rare. I will update the codex when the new one hits.
My Daemon are a whatever. Sell them, dust them, occasionally paint one.. I'll not be buying any more of them. I may update their codex when they do a new one, or i may not.
My DE are slowly growing, as i have to buy a certain amount to enter the monthly local tournament, and i like the models. Right now it's one unit a month. I'll buy something else awesome if i come into cash i've not got plan for, but that's nigh vanishingly unlikely.
I'm getting into WM (Searforge and Menoth) and Hordes (voodoo crocs), on a tiny scale, but i only buy a model very occasionally.
I'm also looking at Malifaux and other tiny games as a possible diversion.
GW doesn't have the draw on my wallet it used to, but i can still be persuaded occaionally..
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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