Scottywan82 wrote:
So the lord on foot: Finecost or glorious, glorious plastic?!?!

 Scottywan82 wrote:
So the lord on foot: Finecast or glorious, glorious plastic?!?!

 Grimtuff wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:
So the lord on foot: Finecost or glorious, glorious plastic?!?!

Plastic and twenty of your American (not seen any other prices yet) Dollars.

 ceorron wrote:
I can help the "These seem to be heavily "inspired" by WoW", thing they have got going on with them?.

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 pretre wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
I can help the "These seem to be heavily "inspired" by WoW", thing they have got going on with them?.

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 Scottywan82 wrote:
So the lord on foot: Finecost or glorious, glorious plastic?!?!

 pretre wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:
So the lord on foot: Finecast or glorious, glorious plastic?!?!

Plastic, look at the picture. No Finecast banner at the bottom of the blister. Compare to Vilitch.

silent25 wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:
So the lord on foot: Finecost or glorious, glorious plastic?!?!

Looking at the image, I can make out the Finecast logo.

 pretre wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
I can help the "These seem to be heavily "inspired" by WoW", thing they have got going on with them?.

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 ceorron wrote:
Yeah I thought of that one two, still funny but it is strange. GW could have gone this way before WoW came in and pilfered GW's ideas. GWs fluff has always had a comic book, 80's hair metal feel to it, may as well make the models look that way IMO. My words allude me, I don't know of a better way to describe it.

75hastings69 wrote:

silverstu wrote:Although Hastings does sometimes refer to a month and mean preorders at the end of that month, not sure that's the case this time though. The rumours of this flyer wave have been about for a good while -could be reverb or they could be finally materialising..
Personally I'd love a cool new Eldar flyer [and a look at the Voidraven and Harpy]. That said I have plenty to paint in meantime...

My dates used to be pre-order dates, this discussion has been had before (I say used to as I'm not in the rumour buisiness anymore)

I expected the book and some different minis, so I'm guessing that the missing minis & the book will form the big re-release whenever that may be.
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I was expecting the WoC book, plastic dragon Ogres and plastic forsaken (and the nice woc lord on foot in plastic) at the same time as the warshrine...... obviously didn't pan out as I'd expected, but I'm guessing those 3 kits & the plastic chariot will accompany the book release, although when this is I don't know (or indeed care! Lol) all of the woc plastic I mentioned there are finished a long time ago.... they even shown part of the painted chariot in WD

 pretre wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
Yeah I thought of that one two, still funny but it is strange. GW could have gone this way before WoW came in and pilfered GW's ideas. GWs fluff has always had a comic book, 80's hair metal feel to it, may as well make the models look that way IMO. My words allude me, I don't know of a better way to describe it.

 pretre wrote:
Link to that original WOC statement? I haven't seen that. I'll update his release bits though in the tracker.

On topic so not to get in trouble (and also to boost my rating) I'll add plastic dragon ogres to this WoC release wave
I'll also add generic plastic chaos lord clam pack (feel my rating soar!! Lol)

 Kroothawk wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Link to that original WOC statement? I haven't seen that. I'll update his release bits though in the tracker.

The important second part (summing up previous posts):
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?360126-Release-schedule-rumors/page11

Don't have much time for digging, but his plastic dragon oger and plastic Lord on foot rumours are older than 4th October:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/479652.page (end of first post).

 Kroothawk wrote:
... nor the chariot, I guess.

Too many flat surfaces devoid of even texture let alone detail. I really don't like any of this stuff apart from the plastic lord. However that's just me, I've discovered a whole heap of other companies that make stuff I like, I'm pleased that so many of you like this release..... the daemon models are nicer though
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I figured out what bugs me about the beefcake of chaos/slaughterbrute it's the teeth, they look like the ones Mark Harrison plastered all over those chaos space marines a few years back, wonder if he did this too? I think the beefcake of chaos is growing on me..... The other stuff not so much lol

For the chariot it's the blatant re-using of the same CAD parts off the warshrine. It's like everything is a CAD kit bash of another kit recently. I wish they'd go back to traditional sculpting as some of GWs guys aren't ready for this type of sculpting yet. There's too much re-using of parts, and too many flat, angular (savage Orc bodies!?) and badly detailed areas (this triangular fur craze) for them to even think there amongst the best models in the world let alone claim to be "the" best.

What companies do you prefer for Chaos stuff? Or is it that you mean other companies have better ranges, worlds and systems not just alternative GW models? Genuinely interested.

As you are genuinely interested ill be happy to tell you.i believe that GWs biggest draw (and their sole greatest possession) are the worlds they've built(for both systems) they are almost living breathing organisms, recently even these have been eroded by the need to just sell sell sell (with stuff like by daemons etc to fight alongside your high elves - just for the sake of selling more models even if it goes against and diminishes 25+ years work) BUT I still honestly feel that their game worlds are second to none.

It's their models/designs/quality/price that are letting them down IMO. The models seem almost lazy in design with numerous "new" kits looking like kitbashes of other kits (just with a big price) check out the DA flyer, the recent woc cavalry etc for examples, it's not that they are bad but lazy, lets look at the slaanesh hell striders, the steed is an iconic beast of slaanesh, I understand that more than one follower of slaanesh would use it and I'm fine with that. It's the design work, the steed is lithe and has heaps of momentum, it looks like its doing 100mph, now take the riders, they look totally unaffected by that motion, for all intents and purposes those marauders could be sat having a pint in bugmans! That's how disjointed the two elements of the model feel, it's like they had the steeds lying around already made (which they did) they just suck a diffent rider on for a fast buck! The same with the skullcrushers, why didn't they at least change up the poses etc of the juggernauts? This kind of thing just seems lazy to me. Now we have the chariot, obviously another cad piece as it shares several parts with the recent war shrine and has loads of strange angles and surfaces that are devoid of texture and detail, like a mass produced child's happy meal toy has. Sure the old chariot was showing its age but it had texture, detail & character, this is just "by numbers" for me and nothing more. Even the posing is getting old now, must every quadricepped creature be stood on its back legs swatting invisible flies? Other companies are making truly dynamic models (using CAD as well as traditional sculpting methods I might add), GW just seems stuck in some awkward "copy paste" phase ATM IMO, they're either A/ struggling for ideas B/ struggling to produce finished items due to time constraints (although the number of sculptors at GW in ratio to the number of models released per month makes me doubt this) C/ trying to use a little effort as possible for as much financial gain as possible I.e. no need to sculpt steeds just the riders will do and that's another kit we can churn out or D/ their target demographic has changed.

My own belief is D. Supported by poor quality (finecrap), very high prices (high turnover clients who don't remain in the hobby)' a dreadful "hobby" magazine so devoid of content that only the pictures must attract a certain consumer - even the 'painting guides' can't really be called that anymore, where's the inspiration?

As for actual systems I'm led to believe Kings of War is very good when compared to WFB, also other systems are seeing greater support than ever before, although these could be linked to price rather than specifically GW game systems being better or worse than those of their competitors.

Do some searching on the net, there are so many companies out there right now making beautiful models, I don't think there's ever been a better time to be in the hobby.... if you are prepared to look beyond citadel's ivory tower.

Sorry about the OT post, although to be fair bits of it discuss the new warriors models so its not all bad

Umm haaaatings you said dragon ogres werent too good? i have to disagree on this one!

Excellent, glad you like them. They're an improvement (IMO) over the previous ones but they could have (IMO) been so much better. They look to me like someone stuck the torso of an ogre on a cow with a lizard tail. The fluff states they are not ogres or related to ogres, the dragon part/reptilian part should/could have been more lithe (IMO). Also why do they look nothing like a shaggoth who is meant to be an ancient Dragon Ogre (that's correct isn't it?). Still it's nice they're now in plastic with different options.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Kinda sad about it not being daemons, but oh well... WoC is good enough!

 pretre wrote:

silent25 wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:
So the lord on foot: Finecost or glorious, glorious plastic?!?!

Looking at the image, I can make out the Finecast logo.

Umm. Where? It is pure black at the bottom of that blister. Compare to Vilitch who has a big yellow bar at the bottom.