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It's sad that MWG is closing, as they got me into miniature wargaming in general.

On a side note: when I presented this video at my 'F'LGS, every one in my gaming group got pretty down... everyone except for the proprietor of the store, whom proceeded to say: "It's good that GW is getting rid of all of these online discount retailers, that way more people will pay full retail here"

...he does little for us as a wargaming community...

;_;

 TheMostSlyFox wrote:
It's sad that MWG is closing, as they got me into miniature wargaming in general. ;_;

They can't have done. Don't you listen to GW? Stores that sell online do nothing to grow the hobby, and are in fact solely responsible for its eventual demise. They also probably hate kittens.

It looks as though Dan, the dude with the beard who played orks, has left MWG, looks like it could be to do with the GW rules coming into place. Probably other stuff, but jeez, sad to see him go


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 Ravenous D wrote:

 Grugknuckle wrote:

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
Most retail stores are on tight margins, game stores tend to be even closer to the line between keeping the lights on and closing shop.

For a shop like MWG, they probably made close to 50% of their sales from GW products and probably 90% of those sales through online customers. If you figure that they get 35% of the sales for their revenue...little bit of math, carry the two...the new terms just cut 15% off the top of their business. Since I doubt they have a few hundred people they can lay off or a warehouse or two that they can downsize, then it causes most stores to close down.

I doubt they will be the last either, as a number of other stores will be put in the same position as a result of one clause or another in the new terms.

And this is precisely the kind of behavior that is killing GW's business. I don't know about you, but it's really difficult for me to play a fun game of Warhammer or WH40K at one of GW's brick and mortar stores. I've ALWAYS preferred to play at the local - privately owned and operated - game store. Their tables are better. Their customer service is better. The atmosphere is friendlier and they have more than just GW products. The privately operated FLGS is the engine that drives this hobby and if GW puts them all out of business, no one is going to purchase GW mini's anymore.

Well soon you wont have to worry, GWs new store format is zero gaming space and they only have room to run demos. Slowly but surely all their stores will look like that, especially if Kirby was truthful when he said he wanted to open 800 new stores in the US this year.

This is what I don't get about Games Workshop - they're prohibiting online sales, I suppose it's a way of directing sales to their webstore. I can understand that bit, but what I don't get is that if MWG are an example of what's happening, and stores are closing down, they're actually losing money! They're losing their trade sales, regardless of whether an indy retailer is offering a 25% discount or not, that's affecting the indy, not GW because of that trade price they've set. Unless they want to build their own stores and get more revenue that way, but I don't get their totalitarian view that indy sellers are bad.

I've never played a game at a GW store, it seems way too nerdy and far too much of a pressure environment to buy stuff, GW staff don't care about you as an individual and what you need, I was offered a Storm Talon for my Blood Angels, and then a Warhammer Fantasy Cannon thing when I asked for cool looking, LOTR models.. My FLGS is ace, I get offered a 10% discount, I've even helped run his store when he's been busy doing other stuff, and the dudes who go down are all in it because it's a fun, relaxed environment. Surely those kind of places are better for the hobby than the Fascist GW regime? aha

If this is solely about maximising profits to GW, without thinking about the long term stability, it's really short sighted. Especially for people who lives in towns where they're nowhere near a GW store. I'm still going to buy GW stuff, not directly from GW, finding a decent indy store is a godsend! I'd rather keep one of my friends businesses open.

I've never bought anything from a GW brick and mortar store and I haven't bought anything from their online store (or forgeworlds either) since probably 2004-5. It wasn't a conscious decision not to, I just always had a local store or better deals on ebay. But now I really will consciously avoid GW's stores. I love their products, but I'm not going to reward them for putting my friends out of business.