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Haight wrote: I hate this when I hear it. I play 40k, and i don't want to hear a sudden and loud yell of any of the games tag lines - Waaaagh, For the Greater Good, Blood for the BLood god, etc.
Other mini gamers don't either that are playing other games. Neither do the card players. Neither do the RPG / Board gamers.
It's one thing if you're in your own house or apartment (god help your poor fething neighbors, by the by), but in the game store, it's one of those breaches of normal etiquette that gets gamers stereotyped into what they get stereotyped.
While we're at it, let's hit a common refrain from those that do this - "well sports fans can yell at sports games".
Next time you have 65,000 40k players in one place, feel free. Until then, inside voices only please.
I think you're playing with different card and RPG/board game players than I have.
Ailaros wrote: You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!"
Thanks to wayback machine I was able to find the picture... then try to upload it.. only to be told that the site already had it? Well I found it none the less.
We all used to gather infront of the logo and scream WAAAGH!!! at every major event. I'm the tall fellow with the shaved head on the right.
its the difference between enthusiastic ork players and bad ork players, it is well acknowledged that 100% of 20% of 10% of the time heartily yelling WAAAAAGGGGHHHHH increses the quality of your rolls by upto 70%
If you are worried about what strangers think of *you* or gamers in general when an opponent yells out Waaagh! in a game you have to really ask yourself why it matters? Who cares what strangers think? What you should be concerned about is why is your opponent clearly that much more immersed in the game and its environs than you are that you are getting annoyed at them for effectively "being in character"? Instead of bemoaning it try and immerse yourself that deeply in your army instead. Get *that* into the game and you won't care one bit that your opponent is yelling Waaagh! and will be shouting at him to bring it and telling your troops to "hold on boys! here they come!".
Let's face it an opponent can call exactly *1* Waaagh! in the course of a game so it isn't like they are screaming Waaagh! for hours on end constantly. Unless most of the players in your FLGS also play orks that makes it a pretty rare thing indeed. Why get so upset about it? When I hear that and I am playing a card game or a board game my first thought is that someone is having a good time playing 40k. The second thought is that someone is about to get stomped. Neither have anything to do with annoyance or anger over someone having the "nerve" to yell out like that in the game store. It is a game store for heaven's sake, not a bloody library.
Skriker
CSM 6k points CSM 4k points
CSM 4.5k points CSM 3.5k points
and Daemons 4k points each
Renegades 4k points
SM 4k points
SM 2.5k Points
3K 2.3k
EW, MW and LW British in Flames of War
If you're playing Orks and *not* screaming WAAAAGH! at every opportunity, then you're playing Orks wrong.
Same with your Khornate armies... if I don't hear "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!" at least once a game... you are an embarrassment to the Ruinous Powers.
This is a game. Played with plastic toy soldiers. It's meant to be fun. If you aren't having fun with it, why the feth are you playing it?
It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised.
My 10 year old son tries to WAAAAAGH!!!! when he plays his Orks....its kinda cute. The battle cry he came up with for his Necron Scarabs however..........every single time makes me wanna grab a can of Raid. "It buggy lunch time!!" It generaly means he is about to mass assault one of my vechiles with a swarm of Scarabs that I didnt get killed fast enough. For some reason my Dreadnaughts, Razorbacks, Rhinos and Drop Pods tend to go squish. Which then proceeds to make him giggle like a mad sciencetist!! Other then the fact that it means I lost troops its kinda cute and fun to watch.
Its a game, have fun. If you arent for some reason...find a new one.
At my LGS, when an orc player bellows WAAAAAAAGH, all the other orc players echo it. Also, we take a picture at the end of each tourney, with the kicker that we are all shouting WAAAAAAGH and making mean orc faces.
Its all done in good fun, there are way nerdier things they could be doing.
I'd like to think that a roight proppa Orc player is a little bit like his orcs, a motley character who has mannerisms to him. Its orcs, they work on the science that wat they believe is true. The red ones go faster, the blue ones are lucky and the yellow ones have more dakka. a proper orc player ofcourse has red dice for when he moves through terrain, charges or runs. Yellow dice for when he shoots you and blue dice for when he REALLY needs to make his saves. Vocalising your waagh is part of the army. and yes its mostly veteran players that do it because you know what, the older you get the less embarressed you are by what you play. Its only proper to waagh at the top of your lungs, anything else and your not playing orcs. It used to be a rule that unless you did this you couldn't declare a waagh and for the veteran orc player this is a stone cold truth.
kronk wrote: At the GW event days, I've heard tell of the store managers and/or TOs getting all of the participants to scream Waaagh as loud as they can when someone is declaring it.
I would not be amused...
I'm sure that wouldn't help reputation when a group of non-wargamers walk past the games workshop window and look in to see a dozen people yelling and pretending to be an ork.
1. Go to FLGS on a 40K game night.
2. Announce to no one in particular "I have over 10,000 points of Space Marines".
3. Sit back and watch as some 30-ish Neckbeard who still lives with his parents not only disputes your claim, but goes on to describe his 30,000 points of Blood Angels and how he has been playing since Rogue Trader days... And yet you will have never seen him either play 40K or that army.
4. From here, you have several options. Continue the conversation, or just end it. Either way, I guarantee you will waste 1+ hour of your life talking to this guy. Have fun!
If you're prejudiced anyways, you won't go into the store either way. If you're not, it looks like all those people in the store are having fun.
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
migs6357 wrote: I'm sure that wouldn't help reputation when a group of non-wargamers walk past the games workshop window and look in to see a dozen people yelling and pretending to be an ork.
Who cares what people walking past the shop think? Not their hobby so not their business...or our concern.
Skriker
CSM 6k points CSM 4k points
CSM 4.5k points CSM 3.5k points
and Daemons 4k points each
Renegades 4k points
SM 4k points
SM 2.5k Points
3K 2.3k
EW, MW and LW British in Flames of War
Got my first, blood for the blood god... wasn't quite as jarring as the Waaagh though. I think now that I am aware the screamers exists... I can expect it.