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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 15:24:56
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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The Ghost ark.
Has 10 necron passengers inside it, each of which consists of 5 or 6 separate, very small and very fiddly bits.
My ones are empty.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/23 16:08:47
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 15:40:26
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Just wanted to jump in a defend the Lycheguard/Praetorian kit. The wrists match up with certain arms. If you mismatch the arms/hands it becomes a nightmare.
reds8n wrote: The Ghost ark.
Has 10 necron passengers inside it, each of which consists of 5 or 6 separate, very small and very fiddly bits.
My ones are empty.
I think if you build it that way it ends up looking better. Less hassle and a better result! Woo!
The Monolith annoyed me greatly. It just doesn't go together very well... probably the age of the kit but I heard that it's not an uncommon problem.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 15:42:24
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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reds8n wrote: The Ghost ark.
Has 10 necron passengers inside it, each of which consists of 5 or 6 separate, very small and very fiddly bits.
My ones are empty.
LAZY!
(I have drop pods where I didn't model the inside stuff because, feth it)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/23 16:09:10
DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 15:44:53
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Anything that incorporates Resin and Plastic. Fellblade Tracks, And Demios RHino tracks are by far the worst Kits I have done thus far.
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Latest Blog Post: 7th edition first thoughts and pictures.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 15:53:13
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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vascosantos wrote:Any metal from any range or warma/hordes plastic"resin" kit, the molding lines and lack of poses are just horrible
I honestly don't mind the WM/H kits for their "poses" what does really bug me are the mold lines..... in my experience GWs are worse in scale (as in, larger mold lines) but PPs are just in the worst places (I've gotten rid of some awesome detailed sculpting due to the mold line being ON that detailing... looking at you Convergence light vectors!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 15:55:46
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Painting Within the Lines
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reds8n wrote: The Ghost ark.
Has 10 necron passengers inside it, each of which consists of 5 or 6 separate, very small and very fiddly bits.
My ones are empty.
If they aren't there, I assume an opponent can shoot through the gaps
Kroot for me, so.many.little.bits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 16:00:59
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Beast of Nurgle
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Look better empty too. It would annoy me too much to have them in the model, even when they're disembarked..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 16:10:47
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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My justification is that it'll make it really hard to paint with them in it and I can use the bits as markers, terrain etc etc .
None of this will happen, but I like to put the effort into my delusions.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 16:21:43
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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Nyss Hunters are not a fun kit to make.
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DC:90+S+G++MB++I--Pww211+D++A++/fWD390R++T(F)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 16:46:10
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Not kits I hate, but kits that have needed a huge amount of patience - the infinity aleph starter box, and in particular the dakini tacbots. Just tiny, tiny parts. Getting those shin plates on required tweezers, and a rock steady hand...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 16:54:38
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Confessor Of Sins
WA, USA
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Going old school here.
Epic 40k Ork Gargants/Great Gargants.
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Ouze wrote:
Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 18:03:10
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Gargantuan Gargant
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This. On the topic of mold design, I'm actually somewhat annoyed by the whole "hidden mold line" design philosophy. While it sounds great, tolerances just aren't tight enough (with many companies, at least), come production time, to make "hidden" mold lines actually hidden. If you're even moderately picky about model prep, you're now left with mold lines (shift, usually - not just simple flash) in the least accessible areas, instead of over broad faces where the fix would be more necessary, but infinitely easier. Armored limb has a rounded knee/elbow cop? Run it straight down the middle, where a quick sanding erases any presence and the contour is easy to maintain. Running it around the perimeter gives me a lopsided piece of armor that I can't clean up, thanks to the surrounding plates.
Materials are my other main gripe. I have no problems with GW/Mantic styrene or pretty much any metals, but I hate materials that are either incredibly brittle (whatever styrene/glass hybrid Battlefront used for the Open Fire! PaK40s - one had two breaks before I even opened the box, and cracked again during removal) or don't abrade well (Bones plastic is somewhat annoying, Mantic sprueless plastic/restic is worse - not to mention the hideous tear-outs I find on nearly every part where it originally joined the sprue).
As for specific kits, I'm currently trudging through the Open Fire! Shermans, so they're certainly the freshest annoyance. Aside from the whole "we messed up, so go ahead and gut the whole inside of the right-hand side/track piece and see what you can do" issue that is already well documented, the tops have the same fit issues that most people hate about Rhino-chassis vehicles. Without meticulous dry-fitting, shaving, gap-filling, etc. you'll never get them flush - the little guides and ledges are all there, the upper hull simply doesn't fit into them.
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The Dreadnote wrote:But the Emperor already has a shrine, in the form of your local Games Workshop. You honour him by sacrificing your money to the plastic effigies of his warriors. In time, your devotion will be rewarded with the gift of having even more effigies to worship. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 12:25:41
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Been Around the Block
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Old DE Ravagers and talos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 12:59:38
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Any of the orginal Tau plastics (Firewarriors, Crisis Battlesuits and Devilfish hulls); they all seem to have similar problems with mold misalignment/slip and/or distortion.
I've spent endless, frustrated, hours clamping battlesuit bodies, filling joint lines on Devlifish and trimming flash on Firewarriors.
None of which is helped by the super-clean look that I want to achieve with Tau.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 13:14:48
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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necron vehicles, landraider kit and any of that restic crap that mantic uses
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 13:21:52
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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What bugs you about the Land Raider kit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 16:47:52
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Krazed Killa Kan
Minnesota, land of 10,000 Lakes and 10,000,000,000 Mosquitos
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You mean the fact that it costs an arm and a leg isn't enough?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 16:50:49
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Dakka Veteran
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I hate with a burning passion the Drop Pod kits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 17:04:32
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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For GW, the Grey Knight power armor box. The two handed swords/arms are just a pain to allign properly.
For Malifaux, there was an ease to the metal models. Now, the Guild Riflemen box was great looking, but, a pain to figure out how they went together. The plastic kits look great, but are spindley (not sure if that is a word).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 17:20:42
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
Marblehead, MA
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Dwarf gyro copters, tomb scorpions and the tomb's kinds catapult were an absolute disaster to build. I'd rather stub my toe than build another metal tomb scorpion again.
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The Law Always Wins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 17:30:16
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
The Ruins of the Boston Commonwealth
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I hate assembling Shoota Boyz. I'm constantly tempted to use slugga boyz just because they're so much easier to assemble.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 20:21:10
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Ambitious Acothyst With Agonizer
Boston, MA
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kronk wrote:The New DV models are gorgeous, but HOLY gak do they have a lot of bling to paint on each model!
This leads me to perhaps my #1 model peeve. I tend to see construction challenges as stimulating, but on the new GW models sculpted in whatever sort of CAD program they use, the relentless and unfixably ugly phenomenon of detail smear. I don't know if there's an established or technical term for what I'm talking about, but it is exemplified by the claws on the pelt on Kranon the Relentless' cloak. You need some sort of trompe-l'oiel painting technique to mask it.
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Kabal of the Slit Throat ~2000pts
Elect of the Plaguefather 4500pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 20:24:45
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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The PanOceanian Dragao was a true PITA to assemble. The Jotum was only marginally less annoying.
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War does not determine who is right - only who is left. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/25 11:26:06
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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I have a metal Hive tyrant that defied nearly all methods I could think of to put together. Main problem surfaced from the legs. Glueing and pinning werre useless. Green stuff did nothing. Finally I turned to JB weld. It worked pretty well though this is the only model which it has lasted on. . .
I agree that the SM bike kits is also a pain. The two halves of the bike just never quite match up perfectly. Even the tires don't fit together well. I haven't had to put one together but I heard a friend swear frequently over a LSS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/25 12:19:55
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Empire State Troops - Halberdiers specifically. Unless you glue the arms in exactly the right position and have them pointing in exactly the right direction, they have no chance of ranking up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/25 12:21:31
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Dwarf Runelord Banging an Anvil
Way on back in the deep caves
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I painted all ten million of the skulls on the Garden of Morr kit.
But one more skull probably would have pushed me over the edge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/25 14:24:57
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Irked Necron Immortal
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For me its Drop Pods and Monolith's. The edges never seem to line up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/25 15:00:09
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Necro wrote:For me its Drop Pods and Monolith's. The edges never seem to line up.
As far as GW kits go, I have to agree with you on the drop pods.
Another annoying kit that I had, was a 1:18 scale Ferrari F2001 Formula 1 car.... Combine the fiddly, flexible and fairly weak plastic that Tamiya uses, with the fact that those fiddly pieces have to hold the weight of the model (which honestly isn't all that much, its like a real formula car), and that they are tiny when trying to cut off the sprue, and it was a royal pain to assemble. I was just thankful that it looked great put together and on display.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/26 18:27:44
Subject: Kits that annoy you.
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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See this? This is by far one of the worst models i have ever worked with. It is a beauty when done and really looks what it should and it is really easy to assemble... The problem?
You see that ankle in the foreground? All of the models vast weight rests on that one ankle. Is this the one that is molded onto the kit, thus making it inherently strong? No. It is the one held in place by a thin resin peg. With all of the models weight leaning forwards.
I have reglued it. Then i pinned it. Then i pinned it agin. Finally, on mine i added a tree stump to the base and had it gripping it in one of its claws, thus giving it extra support. But the amount of time i have had to re-pin and greenstuff that leg is insane.
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Free from GW's tyranny and the hobby is looking better for it
DR:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Pww205++D++A+++/sWD146R++T(T)D+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/27 09:59:11
Subject: Re:Kits that annoy you.
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Screamin' Stormboy
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Currently, I reserve a remarkable hatred for the Dreadball Deluxe set which was anything but deluxe...
Here you have the very unfortunate combination of very soft, almost impossible to clean, restic and gigantic mould-lines cutting right across a lot of itze bitzy detail. I've currently thrown those guys back in the box while I wait for the time when I finally work up the energy to resculpt all the damage that cleaning the models did.
As a special mention, I would like to mention Battlefronts models. Yes, all of them! That company simply does not understand the how to design a kit so that it goes together easily. Point in case is the Panthers and King Tigers that I've recently assembled. Having to glue the skirts onto the side of the tanks is bad enough (but can be done with a few blobs of greenstuff carefully hidden behind the skirt) but gluing those front fenders on... Who on earth came up with the idea of have to glue a fairly meaty piece of metal to a resin hull, attached only by a razor-thin edge a few millimeters across? I've glued, re-glued, and then glued some more and I still hardly dare touch them. And unfortunately, in contrast with the skirts, there's no way of reinforcing the underside of the seam with greenstuff as that would be visible.
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