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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/13 15:29:25
Subject: Is the +30 for the cron anni-barge really its death toll
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Tunneling Trygon
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Edited for typos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/13 16:22:53
Subject: Is the +30 for the cron anni-barge really its death toll
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Dakka Veteran
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The formation bonus isnt that great and i really wouldnt use it but as part of the duricon all living metal ignors 1-4 on the damage table which is useful for there shooting. Especialy the doomsday.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/13 16:41:37
Subject: Is the +30 for the cron anni-barge really its death toll
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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On its own? Yes. With the rest of the choices now available to Necrons? No. To be honest, this change just reeks of poor work. I don't think that GW even intended it to be nerfed three times. They increased its cost to balance it, but I think that GW then changed Tesla in response to overwatching Tesla units, while completely forgetting about the AB and the consequence such a nerf would bring. And rest be assured that GW certainly didn't include the recent Jink nerf into consideration. The whole codex seems really weird and instead of being a homogenous piece of work, it more looks like a collaborative work of several individual writers who poorly communicated with each other. This applies to several changes and definitely reflects upon the codex as a whole which went quite overboard and made a solid, middle of the road army into a really strong army with a few...questionable builds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/13 19:49:32
Subject: Is the +30 for the cron anni-barge really its death toll
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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People keep talking about the jink nerf, but honestly its hardly even relevant.
How often do you see an immoblised tank, where jinking would even give it a chance to survive?
Especially an annibarge, who is probably AV11 now if its immo, so its practically dead anyway.
The problem now is not that the annibarge is bad, because its still a decent unit by all counts-its that it is surrounded by so many amazing or even OP units that it pales in comparison.
The annibarge, as its current self, is still a good tank when you look at tanks in general.
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can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/13 20:03:10
Subject: Is the +30 for the cron anni-barge really its death toll
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Moscow, Russia
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When Tesla was invented and the A-barge was originally priced, there were no snap shots and no overwatch. The A-barge's weapon was not nerfed; it was brought back to where it was to begin with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/13 20:25:35
Subject: Is the +30 for the cron anni-barge really its death toll
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Spawn of Chaos
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BoomWolf wrote:People keep talking about the jink nerf, but honestly its hardly even relevant.
How often do you see an immobilized tank, where jinking would even give it a chance to survive?
Prior to the new book, all the time. My Barges have a nasty habit of immobilizing themselves in the movement phase, because with only a 24" range gun, they're charging forward aggressively the first few turns, and jumping up onto terrain for LOS. It wasn't uncommon for me to finish a game with all 3 Barges immobilized, but still with Quantum Shielding up and a hull point or two left, stuck in a good firing position.
After the book, no idea. With the extra cost and gutted mobility-firepower, they got cut. NS covers my ranged-mobile firepower slot, because they can actually get in range of the enemy without being forced to snap-shot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/13 20:26:21
Subject: Is the +30 for the cron anni-barge really its death toll
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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BoomWolf wrote:
Especially an annibarge, who is probably AV11 now if its immo, so its practically dead anyway.
Uhm...that's the point...if you're down to AV11, you would absolutely want to jink.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/13 21:19:33
Subject: Is the +30 for the cron anni-barge really its death toll
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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I don't think I'd want to face a Decurion w/ 2 formations of Annihilation Nexus, the total cost for the Nexus x 2 is 420 which in a 1800+ point game leaves a a bit over a 1000 points for the Reclamation legion.
Overlord w/ Warscythe , Phase Shifter
1 Units of Warriors in a Ghost Ark
1 15 Man unit of Warriors
5 Immortals in a Night Scythe
5 Tomb Blades w/ Particle Beamers
5 Tom Blades w/ Gauss Cannons
2 Annihilation Nexus
36 Tesla Shots
2 ST10 AP2 Shots
40 Gauss Flayer Shots
15 Gauss shots
5 ST6 Blasts
10 Gauss Shots
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If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/14 06:24:58
Subject: Is the +30 for the cron anni-barge really its death toll
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, it was an auto include in a Necron army according to the former codex.
But now it's no longer.
Two for 240 pts or even three are costly.
Some suggest an Obelisk.
But it's fire angles makes it questionable.
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