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 Vaktathi wrote:

 GearheadXII wrote:
Any changes to Spiders?

I heard they can now use their special movement during the enemy's shooting phase? What about the rumor that they make to wound rolls against initiative?

Basically if they're declared a target of a shooting attack they can warp jump (potentially taking them out of range) and the firing unit cannot choose a different target, but then the Warp Spiders give up their move in the next turn. Exarch makes the unit Fearless, but without any of the downsides (e.g. they can still Go to Ground). Otherwise identical

That's actually really neat. You have to weigh how badly you want a chance to escape the worst of the enemy fire versus the chance to shoot back on your opponent's turn. Plus, it's one less bit of movement for you to do with the spiders on your own turn. I always feel a bit self-conscious about moving my spiders in three phases of my own turn.

Striking Scorpions. Anything interesting happening with them?

Is the wraith knight a character? (I know unlikely but)

Is the avatar the same amount of points?

AnomanderRake wrote:Striking Scorpions. Anything interesting happening with them?

Mandiblasters wound on a 4+ instead of being S3. They are Shrouded up until they shoot or fight in a combat, and retain Stealth (that never goes away) on top of that.
Exarch gets an extra attack for each point of Init higher than an opponent in a challenge.

Skullhammer wrote:Is the wraith knight a character? (I know unlikely but)

Negatory

 hiveof_chimera wrote:
Is the avatar the same amount of points?

Aye. He s now he's a LoW and gets +2S in melee. Khaine Awakened gives Fearless, Rage, and Furious Charge now instead of just Fearless.

Does the wording prevent the spiders from doing their extra move more than once per enemy shooting phase?

How does the flier attack by the swooping hawks work? Like a vector strike in the movement phase or is it a shooting phase attack that they can use after deep striking due to move + shoot? Or is is an actual assault phase thing, that may only happen after they've moved over a flier?

Does the Striking Scorpion's special ability specify it lasts until the fight phase? If it specifies fight phase, that means they have it against overwatch. If it turns off in the charge phase, then you eon't get it against overwatch.

Annnnnnnnd Im back


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 BlaxicanX wrote:
Does the Striking Scorpion's special ability specify it lasts until the fight phase? If it specifies fight phase, that means they have it against overwatch. If it turns off in the charge phase, then you eon't get it against overwatch.

Says when it fires or fights in combat so I'd say they get it against overwatch.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Does the Striking Scorpion's special ability specify it lasts until the fight phase? If it specifies fight phase, that means they have it against overwatch. If it turns off in the charge phase, then you eon't get it against overwatch.

It lasts until "the unit shoots or fights in combat." So you get it against overwatch.

 Drasius wrote:
Does the wording prevent the spiders from doing their extra move more than once per enemy shooting phase?

How does the flier attack by the swooping hawks work? Like a vector strike in the movement phase or is it a shooting phase attack that they can use after deep striking due to move + shoot? Or is is an actual assault phase thing, that may only happen after they've moved over a flier?

It doesn't seem to prevent multiple moves in the enemy shooting phase, that seems off to me, so I'd say play it as once.

Each hawk can make an attack against flyer or flying MC they moved over (they move 18" now) and on a 4+ hit the side armour with a s4 ap4 haywire attack.




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Skullhammer wrote:
Is the wraith knight a character? (I know unlikely but)

Unless you go Iyanden, Which still works as a codex because it only gives different warlord traits and relics, adds the shadow council and gives you the option to make a wraithlord or knight the warlord (and thus a character). This book is so copy pasted that none of the wording in Iyanden prevents it from being taken.

Thanks for the clarification on the Scorpions. 2+ cover against overwatch is baller.

Could you elaborate on how the Fire Prism squadron's special rule works? When you take a squadron of them, is each Prism's attack increased in strength, or do they like... combine all there shots into one?

Also, does a squadron need to contain three Prisms to get the rule, or can you have a squadron of two?

You pick 1 prism to fire, same goes with the night spinners. Not really worth the extra points when you can just take a Knight with 2 D shots.

You get +1S and -1AP for each additional prism, so you can still rock 2 and get a S10 Ap1 lance. But that's 250pts vs the 295 knight.

Yeah, that's a bit of a boner killer. Ah well. Thanks.

Personally Im going to try the aspect host with 3 units of dark reapers with starshot missiles.

18 Bs5/6 missile launchers that ignore jink and reroll against flyers or 33 starswarm missiles

Did the exarch weapon upgrade options and costs change? Such as the shimmershield and powersword option for dire avenger exarch?

Just sucks that i have a local tournament on the 25th and I wont get my farseer edition eldar codex until next week...

 Vaktathi wrote:

AnomanderRake wrote:Striking Scorpions. Anything interesting happening with them?

Mandiblasters wound on a 4+ instead of being S3. They are Shrouded up until they shoot or fight in a combat, and retain Stealth (that never goes away) on top of that.
Exarch gets an extra attack for each point of Init higher than an opponent in a challenge.

Skullhammer wrote:Is the wraith knight a character? (I know unlikely but)

Negatory

 hiveof_chimera wrote:
Is the avatar the same amount of points?

Aye. He s now he's a LoW and gets +2S in melee. Khaine Awakened gives Fearless, Rage, and Furious Charge now instead of just Fearless.

Seriously? Rage and furious charge bubble? this might actually be more broken than jetbikes lol.

 Xerics wrote:
Did the exarch weapon upgrade options and costs change? Such as the shimmershield and powersword option for dire avenger exarch?

Just sucks that i have a local tournament on the 25th and I wont get my farseer edition eldar codex until next week...

Pretty much all stayed the same. Copy paste book for the win



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 Xenomancers wrote:

Seriously? Rage and furious charge bubble? this might actually be more broken than jetbikes lol.

He is still 5 wounds, T6 3+/5++

Small correction re Warp Spiders: If they elect to Warp Jump during their opponent's shooting phase, they only forfeit the ability to Warp Jump during their next turn (as opposed to forfeiting all movement). They can still move as Jet Pack Infantry.

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Xerics wrote:
Did the exarch weapon upgrade options and costs change? Such as the shimmershield and powersword option for dire avenger exarch?

Just sucks that i have a local tournament on the 25th and I wont get my farseer edition eldar codex until next week...

Pretty much all stayed the same. Copy paste book for the win



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 Xenomancers wrote:

Seriously? Rage and furious charge bubble? this might actually be more broken than jetbikes lol.

He is still 5 wounds, T6 3+/5++

With fourtune and surrounded guardian hordes - hes gonna be pretty tough to kill. I'm really feeling the footdar.

Just have lots of distractions for him, trust me he doesn't last long unless you have scarier things running about.

What are the cost of the starshot missile upgrades for dark dealers?

 buddha wrote:
What are the cost of the starshot missile upgrades for dark dealers?

Reapers are 5 points cheaper than before, and starshot missiles are the same. A unit of 5 all with missiles and an exarch is 175pts.

 Xenomancers wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Xerics wrote:
Did the exarch weapon upgrade options and costs change? Such as the shimmershield and powersword option for dire avenger exarch?

Just sucks that i have a local tournament on the 25th and I wont get my farseer edition eldar codex until next week...

Pretty much all stayed the same. Copy paste book for the win



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 Xenomancers wrote:

Seriously? Rage and furious charge bubble? this might actually be more broken than jetbikes lol.

He is still 5 wounds, T6 3+/5++

With fourtune and surrounded guardian hordes - hes gonna be pretty tough to kill. I'm really feeling the footdar.

Graviton or masses Poison ala DE will still kill him quick though.

What about the Howling Banshee's "Power Weapons"?

 Anpu42 wrote:
What about the Howling Banshee's "Power Weapons"?

Still the same, ap3

A lot of the book is copy pasted.

Ugggh but not surprised

Any new fluff a all thats worth reading? Isnt it 160 pages long?

Is the striking scorpion exarch (and Kanandras's) scorpion's claw melee weapon still ST: User x2, AP:2, NOT unwieldy? Or did they retain the strike at Initiative power fist? Secondly, is the scorpion chainsword still +1 strength to the user? Is that on the stat line or added after?

If so, Scorpion Exarches and Kanadras are going to be wrecking house all day long at high initiative striking ST:8 to ST:9, AP:2 shenanigans. That's assuming the Scorpion Exarch can retain his Scorpion Chainsword along with his Scorpion's Claw still, otherwise he'll be ST:6/ST:7 if they're only ST:3 with the chainsword adding +1 after doubling from the Claw.

Thanks for the help with this Ravenous D. Appreciate it man.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

 Ratius wrote:

A lot of the book is copy pasted.

Ugggh but not surprised

Any new fluff a all thats worth reading? Isnt it 160 pages long?

Still waiting on the fluff.

Ok, cheers.

 Red__Thirst wrote:
Is the striking scorpion exarch (and Kanandras's) scorpion's claw melee weapon still ST: User x2, AP:2, NOT unwieldy? Or did they retain the strike at Initiative power fist? Secondly, is the scorpion chainsword still +1 strength to the user? Is that on the stat line or added after?

If so, Scorpion Exarches and Kanadras are going to be wrecking house all day long at high initiative striking ST:8 to ST:9, AP:2 shenanigans. That's assuming the Scorpion Exarch can retain his Scorpion Chainsword along with his Scorpion's Claw still, otherwise he'll be ST:6/ST:7 if they're only ST:3 with the chainsword adding +1 after doubling from the Claw.

Thanks for the help with this Ravenous D. Appreciate it man.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Claw is the same as before. Still awesome. As for chain sword, yup, it is +1S ap6. And you cant combine weapons. So Karandras is throwing down at s8 and exarchs are at S6., there is no more crushing blow.

EDIT: And you're all welcome, I'm trying to stay on top of these leaks like I used to but you know, life.