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 Barzam wrote:
Sounds good. Looking forward to it. Hopefully they'll be producing metal versions of the redesigned Drop Armor from Incursion.

That's a safe bet!

I went digging last night for my SOTR stuff and was happy to find it - also happy to find my metal APE squad too!

I was very happy to hear that MECHA construction rules are still in.

And one of favorite parts is how you can use the huge range of existing plastic WWII vehicles in the game too...

I was planning on giving this a miss until I saw the following...

 Alpharius wrote:

* Bombshell Babes - West Wind will distribute them in the UK, and there will be crossover minis for SOTR II! New Sculpts from Bombshell Babes - female figures for SOTR II!
* KS Exclusives sound to be faction t-shirts, dice bags, custom faction dice, custom tokens, mini bags - hard to believe that they'd be 'KS only' though! T-shirts confirmed (kinda) as KS only.
* Indian Were-tiger in!

That's me poor in June :(

Glad I could...help?

I just hope bubber is up to the task of keeping this thread and thread title updated when the Kickstarter goes live!

 Alpharius wrote:
Glad I could...help?

I just hope bubber is up to the task of keeping this thread and thread title updated when the Kickstarter goes live!

I will do my best!

UPDATE:

Secrets of the Third Reich has been a huge success since its launch, and there is a loyal following for the game worldwide. Since we launched it, though, players have wanted three things from us. A tighter ruleset, expansion to other theaters, and of course, minis and really cool new Mechs. We've been listening, and the time is now right to launch Secrets II.

The SoTR II Kickstarter campaign begins at 12 noon GMT, this Friday, 5th June. Don't miss it!

In anticipation of tomorrow's launch...

I can't find my SOTR I rulebook!

Can someone you does have it handy tell me:

1) What vehicles are in it for the USA and the Germans?

2) Are the CREATE-A-MECH rules more like CREATE-A-VEHICLE rules?

I'm really looking to fielding a couple of Sd Kfz 234/2 Puma Armoured Cars!

Also, for SOTR are 1/48 or 1/56 (Bolt Action?) scale vehicles going to be best?

 Alpharius wrote:

1) What vehicles are in it for the USA and the Germans?

Everything from 'mid war' onwards (PzIIIJ /M3 Lee and later). There are rules for Pumas.

 Alpharius wrote:

2) Are the CREATE-A-MECH rules more like CREATE-A-VEHICLE rules?

There are no options to change the method of locomotion so going by RAW they would have to use the mech movement rules and the mech damage chart. It would be easy to house rule though.

 Alpharius wrote:

Also, for SOTR are 1/48 or 1/56 (Bolt Action?) scale vehicles going to be best?

1/56 I would imagine as Westwinds own vehicles are 1/60.

Excellent!

Thank you for all those answers!

With Rubicon & Warlord Games churning out 1/56 at a decent rate I'm going for 1/56.
Anyone want to buy some 1/48 German tanks??

I've heard some complain that 1/56 look 'too small', but that might be scale bias built in from too many years of GW Scale Bloat - maybe?

 Alpharius wrote:
I've heard some complain that 1/56 look 'too small', but that might be scale bias built in from too many years of GW Scale Bloat - maybe?

Westwind's WWII infantry models were designed to work with SotTR (or the other way around) so its safe to assume that their 1/60 vehicles will be in scale with the new SotTR stuff. 1/56 will be fine.

I've been reading through the SotTR rules and they are actually seems to be a very a good ruleset, better than I remember anyway. Its quite rough in places and some of its a little strange (generally speaking most models can only fire at the closest target).

The real draw back for me initially was the poor quality of the sculpts, hopefully this revamp will change that.

I think the big issue is an optical illusion due to the thickness of most bases. 5mm ~ 1ft. That's why I'm basing all my WW2 stuff on the Rendera flat bases.
Also WW2 vehicles are a lot smaller then people imagine.

 bubber wrote:

Also WW2 vehicles are a lot smaller then people imagine.

I think that's a major contributor to the scale confusion here too!

I got a 1/48 Marder 3 & it's diddy!
The Sd Kfz 251 at 1/48 doesn't look like you could fit 12 squirrels in it let alone 12 burly Germans.

Are you telling me I should be looking at 1/35?!?

God no! 1/56 is the right size. They just look small because of GW sizes & the fact they are really small in real life!! lol.

Any chance of some pics of SOTR minis next to some 1/48 and 1/56 vehicles?

2 in the front, plus 5 on each bench in the back... they would be cramped as hell.They are not that big at all.
I got to see one recently at the Camp Mabry Military History Museum in Austin Tx.
The vehicles really are smaller than you would think.


Alpharius, check out Anatoli's blog here: http://anatolisgameroom.blogspot.com/search/label/Secrets%20of%20the%20Third%20Reich

He is one of the reasons I got into SoTR in the first place. Pretty sure there are some 1/56 or 1/48 vehicles in there. I'm sure you can ask him what scale his vehicles are.

I can sort some at the weekend Alph.

ski2060 wrote:

Alpharius, check out Anatoli's blog here: http://anatolisgameroom.blogspot.com/search/label/Secrets%20of%20the%20Third%20Reich

He is one of the reasons I got into SoTR in the first place. Pretty sure there are some 1/56 or 1/48 vehicles in there. I'm sure you can ask him what scale his vehicles are.

I have his Blog bookmarked already!

I was searching through it today, looking for scale shots - couldn't find any...

But I did e-mail him directly, and he said 1/56 would be the way to go, but that some still said 1/48 looked better...

bubber wrote:I can sort some at the weekend Alph.

Much appreciated - and see you on the KS tomorrow!

It's 2.30 in the morning here now so see ya later today!

 bubber wrote:
I got a 1/48 Marder 3 & it's diddy!
The Sd Kfz 251 at 1/48 doesn't look like you could fit 12 squirrels in it let alone 12 burly Germans.

To be honest, the actual 251 doesn't look like you could fit 12 people in it either. The funniest one is the Universal Carrier.... now that is small. I have no idea how the driver fitted in there!

 Alpharius wrote:

ski2060 wrote:

Alpharius, check out Anatoli's blog here: http://anatolisgameroom.blogspot.com/search/label/Secrets%20of%20the%20Third%20Reich

He is one of the reasons I got into SoTR in the first place. Pretty sure there are some 1/56 or 1/48 vehicles in there. I'm sure you can ask him what scale his vehicles are.

I have his Blog bookmarked already!

I was searching through it today, looking for scale shots - couldn't find any...

But I did e-mail him directly, and he said 1/56 would be the way to go, but that some still said 1/48 looked better...

I think from the masses of discussion about Bolt Action on this subject, either scale will work. There tends to be more 1/48 scale plastic kits out there from the likes of Tamiya so I think has been quite popular for that reason. I suppose the key would be having the same scaling used for all of the vehicles on the board.

It's Alive!!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/832150598/1949-sotr-ii-the-weird-wwii-miniatures-game

Well I'm in at Sarge. More than I was intending but we'll see how it goes. I'm such a sucker for LE items though.

Same here. Ah well

I went for Lieutenant

yeah,
If I own a Bucket of Blood is the only thing I need to start playing the book?

Panic...

You can get a start with that, for certain!

Especially since we'll be getting the 1st edition rules for free as a PDF.

And, I'm in at Lieutenant level!

I've got the 1st edition already, never got round to using it.

I'm just hoping that most of the mini's will be realistic enough that I can use them for Bolt Action as well. My Soviets can always use more heroes.

I've been planning on holding off backing until I receive my Incursion Bucket of Blood pledge and get an idea on where to start. Just noticed it's a pretty short campaign time, so timing may not work out.