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A formation to give Penitent Engines Rage and HoW would be a completely wasted opportunity. They already have Rage, and as walkers they already have HoW. The Hatred change would be useful for when you charge big groups, but honestly I run a squad of 3 engines and even considering the fact that at least one gets immobilized/killed by the time I hit combat generally they kill anything they're aimed at. So Hatred doesn't feel as necessary as other changes to them, such as becoming MC type.

 Jancoran wrote:

Akiasura wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
I don't think they are idiots like some people here. Clearly they do this for a living and are thinking about more than JUST the on board stuff. But in the end someone is making the final decisions and I am guessing that a lot of good ideas have been thrown away via veto. In the case of the Sisters of Battle, they let Matt Ward have something to do withthem in the White Dwarf, mistake number one, and number two was that they then didn't have the resources to do a truly comprehensive treatment of Sisters of Battle. So I guess I give them a little bit of a pass because if sales justified it, they WOULD get a full treatment.

Its up to us to get the Sisters going and while they don't hawk this thread and a hundred like it, I am sure they aren't completely def. It can only help us to have the discussion.

Seriously?
There is no reason to insult people. Especially people who are critical of GW for how certain armies/units get treated.
I might not often agree with Melissa, but she's certainly right in this instance. Even if she wasn't, you shouldn't insult other people like this. Every fan of 40k has at least one axe to grind when it comes to gw anyway

Whose Melissa and what in the world are you talking about. I didn't insult anyone (except Matt Ward0

I misread what you wrote (see bolded) and apologize then.
Melissa is the person you are talking to?

Her name is Mellissia. He's being pedantic because you annoyed him.

would it be wrong if i just run a Sob army with a SM codex?

No. Do it.

Yes. Don't do it.

Oberron wrote:
SO any thought to exorcist in vehicle squadrons? I'd say just 1-2 and not the 1-3 norm.

Why not 1-3?

 LordRahl wrote:
would it be wrong if i just run a Sob army with a SM codex?

Not really. I'm a fan of count-as.

At this point I'd just say go with it, given how out of date the actual army basically is. Even when our "codex" was new, it was still old.

Who all has joined the Facebook to get the Sisters of Battle players mobilized to a major tournament?

 Jancoran wrote:
Who all has joined the Facebook to get the Sisters of Battle players mobilized to a major tournament?

For what purpose? GW is gonna ignore the army regardless.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
Who all has joined the Facebook to get the Sisters of Battle players mobilized to a major tournament?

For what purpose? GW is gonna ignore the army regardless.

For the purpose of showing everyone that we're awesome, duh.

Don't be such a negative nancy. Not everything's about Games bloody Workshop.

I'm really not into the negativity that surrounds some peoples opinions of the game.

My basic philosophy that underlies a lot of what I say is this: If you don't like playing 40K, stop.

Adepta Sororitas are a ton of fun to play and I think a significant price drop and a plastic model would probably get a lot of people doing it. Many people have CLAIMED they would play if that happened.

In the meantime a stronger showing at events would ALSO encourage more. And that is something we CAN control.

So i say we control it and put up a good showing.

 Jancoran wrote:
I'm really not into the negativity that surrounds some peoples opinions of the game.

My basic philosophy that underlies a lot of what I say is this: If you don't like playing 40K, stop.

Not to stomp all over your preconceived notions, but some of us enjoy 40K but hate they way the company peddling it behaves. We're willing to forgive, but we won't let people forget that the game and hobby weren't always like they are now.

 the_Armyman wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
I'm really not into the negativity that surrounds some peoples opinions of the game.

My basic philosophy that underlies a lot of what I say is this: If you don't like playing 40K, stop.

Not to stomp all over your preconceived notions, but some of us enjoy 40K but hate they way the company peddling it behaves. We're willing to forgive, but we won't let people forget that the game and hobby weren't always like they are now.

And i on the other hand have tried not to preoccupy my mind with the company because frankly, i don't care.

I dont play this game because of them nor in spite of them. I play it because the models kick arse and the game is fun.

What they did with Fantasy was terribad but I can't undo it now. so right now is all I can worry about. They paid for their mistake a lot more than any of us in the grand scheme and as Kings of War and Pathfinder have shown, there's always someone ready to take the torch up if they die.

So for now: we want to gather the Sisters of Battle players and have some fun.

Sorry to get back on topic but I have to say after reading a number of the proposed improvements, I think you guys aren't really daring to dream big enough. I don't want the sisters of battle to be good, i want them to be HATED. I want a player to show up to an 1850 tournament with a netlisted screamerstar that's secretly 2k points total, with a special permission slip from Reece and Frankie themselves saying that he and he alone can use full invis and full 2++ rerollable, to see 1 Immolator, pack his gak and go home. So here is a proposed rule change to start it off.

Saint Celestine 200pts

WS 7 BS 7 S 7 T 7 W 7 I 7 A 7 LD 10 2+ 4+; USRs: Eternal Warrior, fear, Fearless, IC, H&R, FNP, IWND; Wargear: bolt pistol, grenades, The Argent Blade(STR+2 AP1 Master Crafted, STR6 AP4 Torrent Template Rending) JumpPack

Warlord Trait: You Cannot Hide From The Eyes of the Emperor!: Enemy units within 18" of Saint Celestine do not benefit from any modifiers to cover saves, I.E. Stealth, Shrouded, Gone to Ground, Camo Cloaks.

Special Rules:
Beacon Eternal: Reduce the strength of all shooting and melee attacks made against this model and her unit by 1. If targeted by a destroyer weapon, reduce the roll on the destroyer table by 2. Is immune to stomp attacks.
From the Heavens: Saint Celestine adds +6 to her Movement, Run, and Charge distances is immune to difficult and dangerous terrain.
These are The Emperor's Skies!: Celestine can charge flyers as if they were a land vehicle and can never be affected by a Crash and Burn! blast.
In Our Darkest Moment: If Saint Celestine is your warlord, her mere presence inspires even greater faith in the hearts of Adepta Sororitas, All models with the Adepta Sororitas Faction automatically pass AOF tests and may choose to benefit from a special rule granted by the AOF of a Sororitas unit in the army in addition to the one normally conferred by the AOF.
The Emperor Demands Retribution!: Victims of Saint Celestines Melee attacks suffer a -1 penalty to all saving throws and FNP.
Keeps Miraculous Intervention.



This is obviously for funsies but I doubt I'm as far off as I should be if we ever want to see SOB at a top table at LVO or adepticon.

Out of curiosity does anyone know the LVO Sisters list that finished 32nd?

Pretty good placing!

ERJAK wrote:
Sorry to get back on topic but I have to say after reading a number of the proposed improvements, I think you guys aren't really daring to dream big enough. I don't want the sisters of battle to be good, i want them to be HATED. I want a player to show up to an 1850 tournament with a netlisted screamerstar that's secretly 2k points total, with a special permission slip from Reece and Frankie themselves saying that he and he alone can use full invis and full 2++ rerollable, to see 1 Immolator, pack his gak and go home. So here is a proposed rule change to start it off.

Oh, hell no.