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 nels1031 wrote:
 Ashiraya wrote:
What is missing for beastmen?


Gorgon and Jabberslythe are the only thing that I can think of off the top of my head. Maybe a Doombull general as well? I might be missing something.

Having played the Beastmen extensively in Grand Campaign, their roster felt complete to me, even with those omissions.
I think it is....ghorn and jabber are the only ones that are missing except like pestigor and khorneagor which where gone long ago.

They have gor/ un gor/ minotaurs/ spawns/ giants/ cygors/ razgors/ chariots thats just off the top of my head of things I used lol OH and harpies.

But they do lack minotaur leaderers they got gorbulls but not doom

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All i'm saying is there better be a freaking hellpit abomination for skaven. Considering all the other sides with at least one monster we should get that. Maybe a vermin lord too if they can make it not suck. Then again i don't think they did daemon princes yet.

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They said the Ghorgon was tricky because the four arms prevented motion capture, right? I think they said that is why they went with a cygor instead.

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They should just have a dude stand behind one with long arms and put the little pin points on his arms. It would limit the animations possible, but at least it's something.
   
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Hefnaheim

Beastmen work just fine in the game, and their roster is solid if a bit fragile at times. Frankly with the Giant and Minotaurs you dont need the Ghorgon, when you already have such effective units already. But from a fluffy point of view it would be nice I agree with. I would love to see the Brazen bull as a lord for Beastmen thougth
   
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Honestly I think the Beastmen are kinda weak, but that could just be because of my playstyle preferring different stuff. My best faction I'm good with is Vampire Counts and Orks.
   
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Beastmen after their nerf is about middle of the pack. Maybe upper tier.

The magic choices alone really help them, their debuffs are still so wonderful in breaking down enemies.
   
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The Lizardmen roster is here: https://www.totalwar.com/blog/lizardmen-army-roster/

I knew I would love it anyway because Lizardmen, there is a notorious lack of heroes. No Gor-Rok, Chakax, Tiktaq'to, Oxyotl, etc. And yes, there aren't Troglodons (maybe because his rules were so bad they couldn't transfer it?), either hunting packs, or Rippers, or Swarms. Ark of Sotek is not here too. It smells like DLCs with a couple of FLCs. Which is fine, maybe we will get a subfaction, just like Orcs got Savage Orcs, this time focusing on Southlands, and/or just an expansion, including Troglodons and, I really wish, Cold One Skink Riders, and the Ark of Sotek.

Also, no Kroak, but that's fine, he shouldn't be out unless there is an inminent danger that no one else can do.

What I found funny is that only Basties can carry EotG, I wonder if Zlaaq will carry it (man, I love those Dinobots references).

And the live stream (careful with the chat, the amount of normies and mispelling is alarmingly dangerous): [MEDIA=facebook]1475388282536367[/MEDIA]

Square bases and Henry painted hi Stegadon with the Lizardmen painting guide (which he haven't played yet. Trigger warning).

Also, don't think Kroq-Gar is the best fighter out there. He is probably between the Top Two. (I lol'd so hard).

However... better for you to judge it, but it seems that Saurus units will be rampage out of control if they hit ceratain health point (But they said that they will have a ton of HP and decent armour).

Skink seems to be ported perfectly, Kroxigors will be smarter.

There will be feral dinosaurs. Cheaper and harder to control, and will get more expensive as you upgrade them.

There is a brand new artifact for Basties: Revivification Crystal, and ever Lizardmen unit Cold Blood will heal them out of combat.
   
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Hefnaheim

Looks....."intresting" as normal, noting intresting or unexpected, so I guess we are in for yet more DLC and such nonsens. Hopefully what is shown will be adequant until the modding community fixes all the holes and makes the game good. As they did with the first.
   
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I mean, did any race have more than 2 or 3 named characters on release?

Nothing new on this front.

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We get High Elf Princesses as generic Lords (Yay!), but instead of doing it like the wood elves, Princes are the melee Lords whereas Princesses are lightly armoured sword/bow hybrids (Boo!).

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That kind of blows. I'm happy to see some of the ladies at the head, but it would be nice if we could make them full out stabby like the Prince

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 Ashiraya wrote:
We get High Elf Princesses as generic Lords (Yay!), but instead of doing it like the wood elves, Princes are the melee Lords whereas Princesses are lightly armoured sword/bow hybrids (Boo!).

I haven't watched anything, but that actually kinda fits.

There's a whole unit of legendary figures from the High Elf lore of female archers in the form of the Everqueen's Handmaidens no less.
   
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I know, but I was still looking forward to a Princess dishing it out with sword and shield. :(

Oh well there's always mods I guess.

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 Ashiraya wrote:
We get High Elf Princesses as generic Lords (Yay!), but instead of doing it like the wood elves, Princes are the melee Lords whereas Princesses are lightly armoured sword/bow hybrids (Boo!).


Honestly i don't think there was even any High Elf Princesses in the Tabletop. I played and it wasn't my played faction and i didn't face high elves enough but i could swear i never saw such a thing. There may have been some female wizards but i'm not sure. Not that i totally mind since well all Elves have a lot of women and men in their armies. I mean i know the Ward army book had it and all but high elves did have those archer chicks (some sort of magical flaming arrow unit called sisters of averlorn i think) and maybe a couple other things. Oddly i can't seem to remember it's been about 2 years since Fantasy was killed off. I think dark elves had more female models. The witch elves are all females but you probably wouldn't enjoy that they're scantily clad hehe. Not completely sure what else the dark elves had. If they ever do daemons they could always do that Valkia the Bloody (some khorne daemon chick).

I'll just be happy for skaven.

Anyway far as the factions go far as i know skaven are a horde army that's a bit slow but it can put out more numbers than probably everybody barring maybe undead. Basically expect to be drowning in a sea of rats in the army battles. We have crazy machines like dwarfs and empire but we have a monster and magical daemon prince thing too (vermin lord). Also in small numbers or when taking a lot of casualties their leadership can be an issue. Also our machines are ridiculously hilariously prone to blowing up. So imagine if their weapons were made with no view on life expectancy and it follows their life is cheap idea. Pestlines skaven (the focus of the new world map) are basically Nurgle rats without being associated with him. Skryre are mad scientist war machines. Moulder are monsters and beasts like frankenstein's monster except with rats. Eshin are the assassins and rat ninjas. I expect motion capture may make hellpit abomination rough to translate but they'd better have it or the vermin lord. Basically it's like a centipede looking thing with tons of rat arms and legs and a bunch of heads.

Lizardmen are probably the most magical heavy army in the game. Seriously before their 8th ed army book update Slann were bar none the most annoyingly powerful generic mages in the game. Oh you want to cast a spell? Becalming Cogitation *****!!! Enjoy not being able to get your spells off against those stupid things and getting wrecked with them getting a free casting dice for every small spell they cast. In 8th the Slann were debuffed hardcore but the rest of the army was made good again. They're also very fast with cavalry, skinks and the flyers. Very possible to be surrounded in a couple turns. They also have fairly stable weapons teams even if they eat some skink crew at times (silly as it is). Skinks have low leadership for Lizardmen but cold-blooded was one of the most annoying tabletop army-wide rules in Fantasy. It was 3d6 take the two lowest dice for leadership if i remember. So yeah lizardmen are pretty steady with their leadership. Aside from poisoned shooting (which in fantasy rocked) their shooting was not too huge. They also had cavalry too and monsters. They gave my skaven a hard time not least of which because skaven needed an army book update. Least we got an End Times update.

High elves have magic too but they have archers and bolt throwers and stuff like that. Banner of the World Dragon was obnoxious but it was the worst thing they had. Considering wood elves don't seem too hot i am unsure if CA will make all the elves super top tier in this like they were in the tabletop. Also considering since Beastmen sucked on the tabletop but rocked here and Warriors of Chaos were good or ok on the Tabletop but sucked in the campaign in Total War. Not sure what to really say about high elves other than Teclis is probably the most annoying named magic user in all of Fantasy excepting Nagash. Their warriors are very elite but lightly armored so try to shoot them if you can. Sadly this doesn't work so well vs white lions with their 3+ armor vs shooting attacks and phoenix guard had the 4+ ward as well.

Dark elves were oddly very shooty. Witch elves were some of the most annoying units due to the cauldron of blood thing but you could always force it to chase around in a circle in the tabletop. It'd force them to do essentially nothing. Warlocks were just good though. Cold one riders are also pretty cool. They have a lot of deadly melee units like High elves but a lot of really good shooters too and also assassins. Seriously Mat Ward should've been shot for doing the Elf armies. He made them very top tier. It was still nowhere near what GW did to 40k in 7th though with balance.

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 flamingkillamajig wrote:

Honestly i don't think there was even any High Elf Princesses in the Tabletop. I played and it wasn't my played faction and i didn't face high elves enough but i could swear i never saw such a thing.


So? Nobody has said anything about the tabletop here. GW doesn't make female guardsmen either but they exist in the lore as well as in video games. What is your point?

GW never made any princess models at all nor made much of a mention of them, whether melee bruisers or light sword-and-bow hybrids, so it has no relation to which of the two they should (or at least could) be.

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 flamingkillamajig wrote:
 Ashiraya wrote:
We get High Elf Princesses as generic Lords (Yay!), but instead of doing it like the wood elves, Princes are the melee Lords whereas Princesses are lightly armoured sword/bow hybrids (Boo!).


Honestly i don't think there was even any High Elf Princesses in the Tabletop. I played and it wasn't my played faction and i didn't face high elves enough but i could swear i never saw such a thing. There may have been some female wizards but i'm not sure. Not that i totally mind since well all Elves have a lot of women and men in their armies. I mean i know the Ward army book had it and all but high elves did have those archer chicks (some sort of magical flaming arrow unit called sisters of averlorn i think) and maybe a couple other things. Oddly i can't seem to remember it's been about 2 years since Fantasy was killed off. I think dark elves had more female models. The witch elves are all females but you probably wouldn't enjoy that they're scantily clad hehe. Not completely sure what else the dark elves had.



The Dark Elves had female warrior models for the rank and file troops (in the previous batch of plastic warrior figures, one in four of the torsos had noticeable breasts). I didn't get the "stupidly dramatic names" version of the warriors that they released with the last book, so I can't tell you if any of the torsos from the current batch of figures are obviously female.

However, to the best of my knowledge, that was the only unit with mixed gender figures. While in theory there were female Dark Elves in most of the other units (the Executioners and the Assassins being the only units that *should* have been male-only for in-setting religious reasons), there were no obviously female models in those other units. AFAIK, the only other female Dark Elf unit figures were of the female-only types - Witch Elves (plus the similar unit they added in 8th). And in the same vein, the only female character models were for sorceresses (including Morathi). The melee character figures were all male, even though in theory there should have been some female non-magical leaders based on what we'd been told about Druuchi culture.
   
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I was busy adding more to my post including playstyles of each army. I mostly just know Lizardmen and skaven. Lizardmen were one annoying army to face with my skaven. I didn't get to face high elves much and dark elves weren't super easy to face (stupid warlocks!).

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Princesses are sword/bow hybrids apparently. It could have been worse but I still would have preferred at least the option of a bruiser build.

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 djones520 wrote:
While I'm glad to have a release date, I'm sad it's right after I deploy. My laptop doesn't have the best time with Warhammer.


Why are you trying to run a modern videogame on a laptop to begin with?
   
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It's beautiful.




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Campaign map looks good. Especially vauls anvil

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 lord marcus wrote:
Campaign map looks good. Especially vauls anvil


Vaul's Anvil is a wood elf province isn't it?

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CMLR wrote:
 djones520 wrote:
While I'm glad to have a release date, I'm sad it's right after I deploy. My laptop doesn't have the best time with Warhammer.


Why are you trying to run a modern videogame on a laptop to begin with?


Because when I have to live in a small dorm room on the other side of the world, I'm not exactly dragging my PC around with me.

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Lovely.


   
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In game trailer. Looks nice. Morathi and Malekith edgy as always.
   
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Yeah wow malekith was pretty BA in that trailer.

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