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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 14:30:40
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Purifier wrote:You really are, when you add the caveat that they can't love the model without loving the lore.
Where did I say this?
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G.A - Should've called myself Ghost Ark
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 14:36:02
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Honestly this was the best way to release truescale Marines without people thinking they have to redo their armies. Now I'd bet that we are not going to see anymore new models for old marines. Anything new for space marines will be Primaris Marine scale, but old marines won't be cut from the line anytime soon. Primaris Marines bring potentially new and interesting options for Space Marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 14:37:25
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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Preacher of the Emperor
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No guys, seriously though.
How would you feel if GW just... Up and decided to release a new range of plastic battle sisters?
What if they just decided to completely replace those previously meticulously designed metal masterpieces with plastic models that you actually have to assemble yourself!?
Oh, sorry? Over the  ing moon?
OK, never mind then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 14:56:27
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Captain Joystick wrote:No guys, seriously though.
How would you feel if GW just... Up and decided to release a new range of plastic battle sisters?
What if they just decided to completely replace those previously meticulously designed metal masterpieces with plastic models that you actually have to assemble yourself!?
Oh, sorry? Over the  ing moon?
OK, never mind then.
Apparently, and according to the marketing research they've admitted they don't do, they don't think that would make them any money. Either that or they think that constantly releasing new SM models will make them more money, which they're probably right about. Still, could it be that hard?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 15:07:54
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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I'm am not buying them because I don't play SM, but if I did I wouldn't boycott them.
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"Enemies of the Imperium, hear me. You have come here to die. The Immortal Emperor is with us and we are invincible. His soldiers will strike you down. His war machines will crush you under their treads. His mighty guns will bring the very sky crashing down upon you. You cannot win. The Emperor has given us His greatest weapon to wield. So make yourselves ready. We are the First Kronus Regiment, and today is our Victory Day. " - Governor-Militant Lukas Alexander, Commander 1st Kronus Regiment |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 15:25:02
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Luciferian wrote:
Apparently, and according to the marketing research they've admitted they don't do, they don't think that would make them any money. Either that or they think that constantly releasing new SM models will make them more money, which they're probably right about. Still, could it be that hard?
Baby steps. They just figured out that people don't want to have 100kg of books just to play the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 15:26:45
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Still baffled about those objecting to the lore.
The lore we know next to nothing about, seeing as we have a few lines of text about them.
Snap judgement or knee jerk reaction?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 15:28:05
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Lady of the Lake
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Online boycotts, traditionally, are only good at showing who's opinion should be taken with a grain of salt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 15:33:01
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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Infiltrating Broodlord
Lake County, Illinois
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Haha. Yeah, good luck with that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 15:40:04
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Still baffled about those objecting to the lore.
The lore we know next to nothing about, seeing as we have a few lines of text about them.
Snap judgement or knee jerk reaction?
Those people are gonna whine no matter what, just because it's a new loyalist toy, a new space marine toy, and robot girlyman had something to do with their creation.
Edit: Not saying they don't have a point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 15:42:22
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I like the idea of the Primaris Marines lore wise, provided they don't end up replacing regular Marines. Not that they would; logistically, the amount of time it would take to replace every single Marine in the galaxy with a Primaris Marine would probably take the Imperium well beyond however long it will take to conclude the series of events coming up soon.
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G.A - Should've called myself Ghost Ark
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 15:43:10
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Lady of the Lake
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I mean I guess they can still be annoyed since the loyalists got 2 plastic dev boxes while havocs are still resin (which makes me sad as I look to chaos marines to possibly kick off 8th).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 15:47:10
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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GTFO I'm buying extra!
If anything they'll make normal truescale totally easy.
Did you notice that they clearly took their designs from peoples true-scale projects? The legs especially.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 15:47:43
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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You must be joking right? You said it right there in your posts!
General Annoyance wrote:
That's a strange combination of sentiment; if people are very interested in the models, then wouldn't they want to know a little more about them?
No, it isn't the least bit strange because love for models is not intrinsically tied to love or even care for lore. Only if you add that rule can it be strange and only you are adding it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 15:50:43
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Still baffled about those objecting to the lore.
The lore we know next to nothing about, seeing as we have a few lines of text about them.
Snap judgement or knee jerk reaction?
Let's be honest, it's a ham-fisted way for them to push a newer, better SM line without having to invalidate anyone's current armies. That way they can encourage people to voluntarily adopt the new models by giving them better rules in game but avoid the utter rage that would ensue if they pulled a Squat or AoS Brettonians/Tomb Kings with Space Marines, of all things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 15:53:00
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Strange doesn't equal wrong; I don't care if people don't care about the lore. I'm not here to tell people how to enjoy the hobby. To me, it's just the curiosity question, since I would have thought that it would be quite important. Therefore, personally it's strange to me, but my personal entry and involvement in the hobby isn't going to be the same as others, nor is it "the right way". The hobby is mine as much as it is yours. You do you. I think you read into my posts too much - apologies if I wasn't clear on that.
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G.A - Should've called myself Ghost Ark
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:01:24
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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I play Black Templar and CSM. I voted no.
The models look pretty nice. Much better than Centurians. I see no reason why we should boycott these new models. The argument of "Go the way of Tomb King and Bretts" is actually funny to me... Since before Sigmar I played both of those armies.
It's absurd. Worse case scenario they pull the old model line and everything gets replaced by numarines...
Did those people with old rhinos just throw their old rhinos away? Or do they use the old rhinos as rhinos?
Personally, I would just use my old marines as numarines. As long as it's easy to identify what is what, there is no issue and if everything is the same then so be it. The slight height difference of the model isn't even a question, or is putting old marines on cork board now something we shame?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:04:45
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Luciferian wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Still baffled about those objecting to the lore.
The lore we know next to nothing about, seeing as we have a few lines of text about them.
Snap judgement or knee jerk reaction?
Let's be honest, it's a ham-fisted way for them to push a newer, better SM line without having to invalidate anyone's current armies. That way they can encourage people to voluntarily adopt the new models by giving them better rules in game but avoid the utter rage that would ensue if they pulled a Squat or AoS Brettonians/Tomb Kings with Space Marines, of all things.
Was there any other way though? People wanted truescale marines, people didn't want to have their armies invalidated, GW delivered. The lore is plausible. IDK if it's good lore, but it's not centurion level of "oh we always had these" bad.
Now that it's all said and done, we should have seen this coming. The Mechanicus has been hoarding geneseed for a long time and we've known Space Marines weren't the peak since Corax's little science project.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:07:00
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Clousseau
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Why on earth would I boycott these?
They're going to be great in my Grey Knights army, for one, because appropriately costed power armor is really sorely lacking.
Secondly, variety is the spice of life, and with the sheer number of troop slots required in this edition, it'll be nice to have additional tactical flexibility.
There is no way i pass on these, and i am excited.
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Galas wrote:I remember when Marmatag was a nooby, all shiney and full of joy. How playing the unbalanced mess of Warhammer40k in a ultra-competitive meta has changed you 
Bharring wrote:He'll actually *change his mind* in the presence of sufficient/sufficiently defended information. Heretic. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:10:36
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yeah, I don't really see how this will invalidate anyone's army. It may end up getting rid of old style space marines in the fluff, but I imagine every unit will still exist, just with new models. Using old marine models shouldn't be an issue for anyone I'd actually want to play with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:10:42
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Norn Queen
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No real interest in Numarines either looks wise, fluff wise or aesthetically fitting with all my old 2nd metals.
Whilst I wouldnt actively boycott them or tell others too, GW wont see any dosh from moi with them.
Much prefer to see a new xenos line come out or updating of the pheonix lords etc.
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By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:16:51
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Guardsmanwaffle wrote:
Was there any other way though? People wanted truescale marines, people didn't want to have their armies invalidated, GW delivered. The lore is plausible. IDK if it's good lore, but it's not centurion level of "oh we always had these" bad.
Now that it's all said and done, we should have seen this coming. The Mechanicus has been hoarding geneseed for a long time and we've known Space Marines weren't the peak since Corax's little science project.
I'm not saying it's an unwise decision or that I'm mad about it. Just calling it how I see it. I wouldn't really expect it to add up to much in the future of the lore, especially if I'm right about them eventually replacing OldMarines altogether. It simply allows them to put current marine armies in a holding pattern while providing a reason to switch over that isn't just aesthetic. So overall it's pretty easy to forget about and ignore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:17:22
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Been Around the Block
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Let the poll results speak for themselves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:17:23
Subject: Re:Boycott Nu-Marines
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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought
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Well some not unreasonably assumptions are that they are vat grown and thus don't require a population to convert. And from the looks of it are battle ready immediately.
We are also told that they are superior to marines in every way.
So not requiring people or training while also being superior is going to make them cost less or about the same as a normal marine but in less time due to being grown.
That would make it so there is no sense to pour resources into the normal marines anymore.
So even fluffwise there is no reason for space marines to exist anymore. These can do everything they can but better and possibly cheaper with better technology.
Not to mention not requiring recruiting worlds, which makes them more reliable too as they can be produced at mars(presumably) or possibly any mechanicus affiliated forgeworld, at least eventually.
There are already full chapters of these guys and guilliman stated they would replace losses of normal marines in one of the trailers iirc, so they don't seem to require a whole lot in terms of production.
If production is fast enough ( and so far it looks like it) they might even be able to replace lost marines faster with primaris than regular marines, further invalidating them in the lore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:24:39
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Oh yes, it's my daily dose of the Traditio Tries to Create An Argument From Majority comedy show.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:25:15
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Fireknife Shas'el
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People, this is WH40K. Something's going to go horribly wrong with Primaris, just like it did with regular marines. It's just a matter of time before the first Primaris chapter goes sideways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:28:58
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Boycott a business for trying to do business by expanding its best selling range?
Ridiculous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:33:12
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Agile Revenant Titan
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They look awesome. Can't wait to see what the jump pack ones look like from the starter set. The pic shown weeks ago is too blurry to see clearly, other than they have a new 'flight' stand.
Storyline is progressing and GW is releasing new models. I'm all for it. If you really want the other models in the years to come, there is always the secondary market if and when GW stops producing the current Marine models.
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No earth shattering, thought provoking quote. I'm just someone who was introduced to 40K in the late 80's and it's become a lifelong hobby. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:40:31
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Not only I like them, I might even buy them to use as my 30k TS stranded in 40k just to make haters weep!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/16 16:56:05
Subject: Boycott Nu-Marines
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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought
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John Prins wrote:People, this is WH40K. Something's going to go horribly wrong with Primaris, just like it did with regular marines. It's just a matter of time before the first Primaris chapter goes sideways.
I don't think GW have the balls, but this thing virtually has to to turn out bad to make any sense. And not just for the primaris themselves.
Neither the emperor nor fabius nor corax managed to do what cawl apparently has achieved and perfected all on his lonesome while robby-G was taking a nap.
This is borderline heresy. The rest of the imperium and especially marine chapter masters just being A-Ok with all of rowboats recent exploits would be stupid.
So far it's been "Guilliman and his magical marine posse here to save the day!", but it better be the calm before the storm.
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