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I remain unimpressed. The paper I use doesn't bleed through either. In fact, any decent waxed paper would give the same performance.

I've got the P3 one. Works fine and it didn't take a KS and 6-12-18-24 month wait to get.

 Breotan wrote:
I remain unimpressed. The paper I use doesn't bleed through either. In fact, any decent waxed paper would give the same performance.

Not waxed papers - waxed papers, in fact, miss the whole point of a wet palette, being impermeable to water.

Parchment paper/baking parchment/sandwich paper is moderately permeable.

I have been using a homemade wet palette for years now - the paper lasts a decent amount of time, and is not exactly expensive.... (And a copper penny in the corner to keep it from getting manky.) My wife and I have not come close to going through the whole roll yet.

This project kind of lost all momentum when what had been the main selling point was removed from the equation - I think they may be better off putting it on a back burner until they can get the 'everlasting' part to work right.

The Auld Grump

Painter size, 15 by 20 cm, made for miniature painters looking for a good sized palette, that is compact and easy to carry. It's perfect for small to medium sized paint stations. Painter Everlasting Wet Palette can be extended using the top lid as a side Palette.

Studio size, 20 by 30 cm, made for Pros and Enthusiasts looking for a huge painting area. It's perfect for medium to large sized paint stations. Studio Everlasting Wet Palette can also be extended using the top lid as a side Palette.


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Meg Maples doesn't like it, she says in the comments it feels the same as P3 paper and that standard baking paper is better. Honestly I have no idea why anyone would buy this instead of a) buying the same product right now from another manufacturer or b) just using a plastic container and baking paper... she did say she'd buy it just for the container and foam for a lower price, jut use another paper I suppose.

 TheAuldGrump wrote:
Not waxed papers - waxed papers, in fact, miss the whole point of a wet palette, being impermeable to water.

Parchment paper/baking parchment/sandwich paper is moderately permeable.

My bad. I call pretty much all culinary related paper "waxed paper". I'll be more careful in the future.

Personally, I use the paper that you get from those rolls of adhesive stickers. I wouldn't buy a roll of stickers for the paper, mind you, but if you have a use for the stickers then it's a two-for-one type of deal. Recycling at its finest.

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
I remain unimpressed. The paper I use doesn't bleed through either. In fact, any decent waxed paper would give the same performance.

Not waxed papers - waxed papers, in fact, miss the whole point of a wet palette, being impermeable to water.

Parchment paper/baking parchment/sandwich paper is moderately permeable.

I have been using a homemade wet palette for years now - the paper lasts a decent amount of time, and is not exactly expensive.... (And a copper penny in the corner to keep it from getting manky.) My wife and I have not come close to going through the whole roll yet.

This. Parchment/baking paper all the way. I couldn't believe how well it worked the first time I tried it.

(Although I've found it doesn't work great for metallics.)

I've been using a free plastic wet wipes container with a 20 cent sponge and parchment paper from my kitchen for all eight years of my painting career and probably spent less than two dollars total, ever. I cannot for the life of me imagine why someone would buy this.

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Congrats on funding already. Looks great so far

6x packs of 50 hydration sheets: 36€ (43 USD)

are. you. fething. kidding. me.

A roll of baking paper (200+ sqft) goes for only $13 or so. That's nearly twice as many sheets (if you cut to the same dimensions) for about 1/3rd the price.

I see nothing about the (in)famous membrane that would be reusable, hence the name "Everlasting". I know some issues came up amd ot won't be available right now, but I would have atleast expected to see a stretch goal for the membrane?

The hydration papers look good, and they could act as nice backups if the membrane broke or couldn't be used at that very moment, so you pull out a paper instead. This seemed like the whole point of the palette, but there is nothing about it on the page, as far as I can see. There is a lot of meaningless fluff and buzzwords though, like all Kickstarter projects.

The membrane component was dropped from the kickstarter. IIRC the reason for that was posted a page or two back.

 Breotan wrote:

 TheAuldGrump wrote:
Not waxed papers - waxed papers, in fact, miss the whole point of a wet palette, being impermeable to water.

Parchment paper/baking parchment/sandwich paper is moderately permeable.

My bad. I call pretty much all culinary related paper "waxed paper". I'll be more careful in the future.

Personally, I use the paper that you get from those rolls of adhesive stickers. I wouldn't buy a roll of stickers for the paper, mind you, but if you have a use for the stickers then it's a two-for-one type of deal. Recycling at its finest.

Impermeable papers will work just fine for a pallet - just not for a wet pallet.

My good lady uses a porcelain pallet that is older, I think, than she and I combined - a Windsor & Newton from around 1880. (She is back in school - going to the Maine College of the Arts. She is... less than impressed with the sushi package with folded flannel and baking paper that I use.)

The Auld Grump

It isn't a terrible price for an air tight wet palette. Masterson sell one which is $25. This one seems slightly better designed.

Why would you back this when you can get the same thing already for cheaper immediately?

You are risking your money to get something that already exists. If you really wanted this one, just wait for retail.

Dragons Lair Minis wrote:
Why would you back this when you can get the same thing already for cheaper immediately?

You are risking your money to get something that already exists. If you really wanted this one, just wait for retail.

Yeah, without the membrane thing it's really nothing awesome... you can get a sponge and an airtight tupperware knockoff for a few bucks. But... the Kickstarter is already funded, so I guess they hit a spot for people who just want this kind of thing without cutting a sponge or something. I don't know. Good for the creators I guess.

Looks like a good idea and it saves me messing about to make one, I think I will get in on this.

You can buy the ebay? or amazon one for like 10u.s.$ i honestly dont know why you would buy this.

Because you assume it works, will be delivered in time, will be delivered, and a better product won't be available by the time it gets delivered. Duh!

ced1106 wrote:
Because you assume it works, will be delivered in time, will be delivered, and a better product won't be available by the time it gets delivered. Duh!

Exactly, best case scenario you get what you wanted in 6 months time and everything is fine and dandy. Or you could pay half the price and get what you want right now.

Worst case scenario you don't get anything. Or you could pay half price and get what you want right now. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

If the best outcome you have is that you have to fork out more funds which could be used for minis, paints paint brushes etc, and you have to wait an additional 6 months. Why the hell would you do it?

This doesn't even go into the fact that you could make one yourself, that's another argument all together.

Aesthetics are a thing chaps. As is advertising and brand and the maker seems to be ticking all the boxes for modern products.

I don't think it's any accident that it has bold colours, rounded corners to appear like mobile devices, heck they even keep putting the dammed things in most of the shots.

They're not selling a paint pallete but an upgrade to your lifestyle. These are for people that do not want moldy tupperware on their IKEA sideboard.

The idea of anti old helps but we'll we if that works or I will as I'm in for the XL.

I don't think the issue here is actually the product itself. As a wet palette it seems to perform well and looks good from an aesthetic point of view.

As notprop says you're paying more for a nicely designed product that will loook better than many of the home made versions commonly seen and more directed towards mini-painting than most other commercial wet palettes.

It probably does however perform exactly the same function as any other wet palette on the market.

And that's the issue for me.

This was marketed as something unique. The everlasting aspect was its USP and this now apparently isn't a thing anymore.

So essentially it's a nicely designed but comparatively expensive product that doesn't fulfil any unique function.

They need to change the name and the marketing as it's now misleading.

If this was being marketed as the "i-pad" of wet palettes I wouldn't mind getting one, I like nice things even if I can get them cheaper elsewhere (probably why I buy GW products, lol), but I feel a bit uncomfortable supporting a product that doesn't do what it purports to.

I noticed somewhere (can't remember where I read it) that they planned on doing a mini kickstarter later on for the everlasting bit. Will be interesting if they ever do that given they've made so much money already from this version.

I went through all the reviews that I could find and interestingly enough, all the people that like it are ones that don't actually use a wet palette or have never used one.

The ones that do use a wet palette are more on the eh side. Sure it works, but so does paper towel and parchment paper.

Backed this.

Have a wet palette already. Daler Rowney Sta-Wet. Its huge. Way too big, goes mouldy and its incredibly hard to get the moisture level right. Either its so wet it totally dilutes the paint, or it dries out and curls up while you're using it.#

Not sure what parchement paper actually is and never been able to/bothered to find it in UK shops

Tried making one in a takeaway pot with a sponge. Was worse than bad. Sides too high, usable area too small.

Have money and like nice things that are built for purpose.

Like supporting people's creativity.


I am disappointed by the lead time and yeah, it might be total crap... but whatevs.

Honestly can't understand why people are backing this, but you know its not my money. Seems a bit of a con to me.

 Pete Melvin wrote:
Honestly can't understand why people are backing this, but you know its not my money. Seems a bit of a con to me.

As much of a con as £18 for one plastic spaceman?

 Silentz wrote:

 Pete Melvin wrote:
Honestly can't understand why people are backing this, but you know its not my money. Seems a bit of a con to me.

As much of a con as £18 for one plastic spaceman?

Thats assuming I play 40K now, isnt it?

 Silentz wrote:
Backed this.

Have a wet palette already. Daler Rowney Sta-Wet. Its huge. Way too big, goes mouldy and its incredibly hard to get the moisture level right. Either its so wet it totally dilutes the paint, or it dries out and curls up while you're using it.#

Not sure what parchement paper actually is and never been able to/bothered to find it in UK shops

Tried making one in a takeaway pot with a sponge. Was worse than bad. Sides too high, usable area too small.

Have money and like nice things that are built for purpose.

Like supporting people's creativity.


I am disappointed by the lead time and yeah, it might be total crap... but whatevs.

Agree with you on all of this. I like things made for purpose and I have the cash. Why not give it a go - I backed.

StraightSilver wrote:
So essentially it's a nicely designed but comparatively expensive product that doesn't fulfil any unique function.

So it's a purse.

Anywho, Reaper has a thread on this KS, including recommendations for retail product already on the market : http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/76873-everlasting-the-best-wet-palette/&