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I'm pretty sure you can copyright rules. I'm reminded of when DnD changed their license to 'public' so that anyone could use their system back on some earlier editions. I forget the exact name though.

 Gunzhard wrote:
I'm pretty sure you can copyright rules. I'm reminded of when DnD changed their license to 'public' so that anyone could use their system back on some earlier editions. I forget the exact name though.

Open source?

That's what I thinking too but I thought it had a slightly different name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D20_System

 BaconCatBug wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D20_System

Thanks! ...that's it, OGL.

 Gunzhard wrote:
I'm pretty sure you can copyright rules. I'm reminded of when DnD changed their license to 'public' so that anyone could use their system back on some earlier editions. I forget the exact name though.

OGL. Open Gaming License

Edit: beaten to it

 Gunzhard wrote:
I'm pretty sure you can copyright rules. I'm reminded of when DnD changed their license to 'public' so that anyone could use their system back on some earlier editions. I forget the exact name though.

There's a significant difference with the D20 SRD in that it doesn't just copy game mechanics, it copies large sections of text from the WOTC rulebooks*. And that text is protected by copyright law even if the mechanics contained in it are not. So, in 40k terms, you could copy the mechanic of rolling a D6 and comparing it to a value in your stat line to see if you hit, but you can't literally copy/paste the 40k rulebook's section on BS rolls. But that isn't really relevant to a list builder, since all you need to copy is the unit names, FOC categories, and point costs. There's no plausible argument that "Space Marine: 15 points" is a copyrightable piece of text, as it has zero creative content.

*As well as using WOTC trademarks to market compatibility with D&D, but that was a separate license.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Gunzhard wrote:
I'm pretty sure you can copyright rules. I'm reminded of when DnD changed their license to 'public' so that anyone could use their system back on some earlier editions. I forget the exact name though.

There's a significant difference with the D20 SRD in that it doesn't just copy game mechanics, it copies large sections of text from the WOTC rulebooks*. And that text is protected by copyright law even if the mechanics contained in it are not. So, in 40k terms, you could copy the mechanic of rolling a D6 and comparing it to a value in your stat line to see if you hit, but you can't literally copy/paste the 40k rulebook's section on BS rolls. But that isn't really relevant to a list builder, since all you need to copy is the unit names, FOC categories, and point costs. There's no plausible argument that "Space Marine: 15 points" is a copyrightable piece of text, as it has zero creative content.

*As well as using WOTC trademarks to market compatibility with D&D, but that was a separate license.

Honestly I think you're totally full of it dude. Yeah they really messed up here but you're just hating all over the place.

These FW books were rushed clearly and I agree it was a poor move right when they're just starting to shed that old rep.

 Gunzhard wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 Gunzhard wrote:
I'm pretty sure you can copyright rules. I'm reminded of when DnD changed their license to 'public' so that anyone could use their system back on some earlier editions. I forget the exact name though.

There's a significant difference with the D20 SRD in that it doesn't just copy game mechanics, it copies large sections of text from the WOTC rulebooks*. And that text is protected by copyright law even if the mechanics contained in it are not. So, in 40k terms, you could copy the mechanic of rolling a D6 and comparing it to a value in your stat line to see if you hit, but you can't literally copy/paste the 40k rulebook's section on BS rolls. But that isn't really relevant to a list builder, since all you need to copy is the unit names, FOC categories, and point costs. There's no plausible argument that "Space Marine: 15 points" is a copyrightable piece of text, as it has zero creative content.

*As well as using WOTC trademarks to market compatibility with D&D, but that was a separate license.

Honestly I think you're totally full of it dude. Yeah they really messed up here but you're just hating all over the place.

These FW books were rushed clearly and I agree it was a poor move right when they're just starting to shed that old rep.

...

I think you have the wrong post/thread here...

Oh might be, I've seen your comments on many threads now.