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 Just Tony wrote:

I'm more upset that they didn't get asexual reptilian aliens to play the Dracs in "Enemy Mine"...


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You're only allowed to do the whole all female gender flip cast show if it attempts to depict the women in a positive light or as role models.
Or conversely, if the story is about the characters' moral failure then it is therefore specifically a story about men.


Specifically about WHITE men, let's not turn great strides in gender equality into yet another Hollywood race hate thing...


Blech, I'm so sick of realism in art. How passé.

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 Just Tony wrote:

Was going to say Josh Brolin with Cable and Thanos, but realized right as I started typing that one is Fox and the other is MCU, though the lines seem to be blurring more and more each film.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if that bit of double casting gets mentioned somehow in DP2...

 
   
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 Manchu wrote:
Legend of the Five Rings (L5R) is a Northeast Asian-themed fantasy setting. The IP was recently purchased by FFG. This past GenCon, FFG launched the new L5R LCG. As part of the spectacle, FFG hired people to portray samurai. All of these people appeared to be East Asian. Struck me as awkward, but in an inevitable way. Like, if these actors hadn't been East Asian, would there be some outcry about whitewashing? Then again, it's so weird to see a big crowd of white people gawking at a handful of Asians in cosplay.
I was there for that, it was kind of awkward, it was immediately remarked upon during the event by more than few people

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 Vaktathi wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
Legend of the Five Rings (L5R) is a Northeast Asian-themed fantasy setting. The IP was recently purchased by FFG. This past GenCon, FFG launched the new L5R LCG. As part of the spectacle, FFG hired people to portray samurai. All of these people appeared to be East Asian. Struck me as awkward, but in an inevitable way. Like, if these actors hadn't been East Asian, would there be some outcry about whitewashing? Then again, it's so weird to see a big crowd of white people gawking at a handful of Asians in cosplay.
I was there for that, it was kind of awkward, it was immediately remarked upon during the event by more than few people


That's a tricky one, a few days of no sleep and the 'convention diet' means if I saw people out of LCG ambling about in the real world I'd might do a double (or triple in the case of Shiba Umijitsu) take

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 Vaktathi wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
Legend of the Five Rings (L5R) is a Northeast Asian-themed fantasy setting. The IP was recently purchased by FFG. This past GenCon, FFG launched the new L5R LCG. As part of the spectacle, FFG hired people to portray samurai. All of these people appeared to be East Asian. Struck me as awkward, but in an inevitable way. Like, if these actors hadn't been East Asian, would there be some outcry about whitewashing? Then again, it's so weird to see a big crowd of white people gawking at a handful of Asians in cosplay.
I was there for that, it was kind of awkward, it was immediately remarked upon during the event by more than few people


In a way this is the boat Iron Fist was in. The character in the comics was historically a blond white guy, and the show presented the opportunity to crap on it no matter how they chose to proceed: if they left him white, it was whitewashing, and if they made him Asian, it was stereotyping.

I do think whitewashing is an issue, where historically nonwhite roles are recast as whites, but with Iron Fist specifically it was very irritating to see the phrase being diluted in that way.



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 Vaktathi wrote:
I was there for that, it was kind of awkward, it was immediately remarked upon during the event by more than few people
No doubt. I felt awkward just looking at the pics. Conversely, no one would feel weird about an Asian person dressed up as a wizard in a D&D parade.
 Turnip Jedi wrote:
(or triple in the case of Shiba Umijitsu)
Shiba who now?
 Ouze wrote:
if they left him white, it was whitewashing, and if they made him Asian, it was stereotyping.
L5R is a much weirder boat. The characters are the manifestation of (mostly white) Americans imagining a fantastical version of Northeast Asia; they aren't really "Asian" themselves - no more (or less) so than Heimdall from Thor is meaningfully black or white. To the extent that L5R characters are presented as Asian, it is for the sake of (mostly white) Americans imagining Asianess without necessarily caring about the actual culture and history of Japan, China, Korea, etc., exactly how the movie going public doesn't care about Scandinavian mythology vis a vis a Thor movie.

   
 
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