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2018/11/22 20:46:33
Subject: Some Pointers For Dark Elves
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I also love the old executioners. Those models really turned me on to dark elves back when I started. This draichs are a large scale pain in the ass though.
That being said, I swapped out all my new executioner heads for the sisters of slaughter ones and I think they look quite a bit better.
I used the executioners skull heads on my warlocks, which also look better.
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Square Bases for Life!
AoS is pure garbage
Kill Primaris, Kill the Primarchs. They don't belong in 40K
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2018/11/23 02:33:43
Subject: Some Pointers For Dark Elves
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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A Town Called Malus wrote: Orlanth wrote:Yes you could use old metal executioners, butt those have the draich added on at the hilt and are notorious for breakages.
On the other hand, they look way better than the plastics and are really distinct armour-wise from the Black guard which makes for a nice contrast on the tabletop. The plastics, being effectively a head and weapon swap lose some of that and so come across less as two distinct units and more just variants of the same unit.
That works fine for spear/sword/crossbow elves forming the core of the army but special units should look distinct from one another, each with their own style. At least in my opinion.
Manufacturing/design issues with a miniature are definitive, aesthetics are entirely subjective. I prefer the plastic Executioners, others dont.
As for the distinctiveness between Executioner and Black Guard, I think there is enough. A faction should make heavy armour in only a limited number of ways, it makes sense for the two units to have only minor variations in armour. At least there are differences. If the two units didn't share a save profile your comment would make a lot more sense, as they do it makes sense that there are similarities inn armouring. That being said Cold One knights have different armour, but they are nobility.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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2018/11/23 11:31:24
Subject: Some Pointers For Dark Elves
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Personally, I like armies when they all have a similar armour style look. I don’t really like it when elites stand out too much. I’m a really big fan of uniformity.
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Square Bases for Life!
AoS is pure garbage
Kill Primaris, Kill the Primarchs. They don't belong in 40K
40K is fantasy in space, not sci-fi |
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2018/11/23 21:30:26
Subject: Re:Some Pointers For Dark Elves
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Commanding Lordling
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Alright, so as I expected the dwarf list infantry wise pretty much sticks with the troops posted earlier, those troops are, in fact, all the dwarf player has (pretty much the dwarf half of skull pass + misc stuff) So something along the lines of:
12 Dwarf Warriors
10 Dwarf Thunderers
8 Dwarf Miners
1 Dwarf Cannon with crew
Dwarf Thane
2 Dwarf Dragon Slayers
1 Grudge Thrower + crew
Anvil of Doom
10 Ironbreakers
Ironbreakers get magic res 3, grudge thrower reroll misses rune, and probably full command across the board. He has only played against Greenskins with this list which consists of the Skull Pass half + the Battalion (with boar boys and I think a unit of savage orcs). I know the list isn't great, but they are the ones playing and are cool with it.
Anyway, here is a just for fun 1.3k Dark Elf army I came up with just for fun with what I have built so far. Not going to be the end result (got a cheap metal cauldron I'm waiting on till I start the witch elves and my doomfires and Dark Riders are still in box along with my cold chariots and hydra. Army is work in progress) Anyway here it is:
Supreme Sorceress LVL3
20 Darkshards (2 ranks of 10)
20 Darkshards (2 ranks of 10)
(18) Executioners (3 ranks of 6)
(18) Black Guard (3 ranks of 6)
Repeater Crossbow
This leaves me with around 79pts to tinker with. I have around 30ish Executioners and Black Guard so I could drop 1 to reinforce the other but I wanted to try incorporating both. Yes I know it could probably use some core infantry. Yes I know the list sucks. Once again a just for fun list that uses the models I have built so far at a modest points cost.More interested in hearing criticism about the formations. If you have composition suggestions that fit with what I have built feel free to let me know what I should change.I do have a dredlord that is pretty much built I could swap out the supreme sorceress for, I also have another bolt thrower, and I have a regular sorceress pretty much built. Everything else that I SHOULD put in is still waiting to be constructed.
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2018/11/24 03:44:24
Subject: Some Pointers For Dark Elves
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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They are heavily restricted (for now) so you should be also.
Take a Master and a level 2 sorceress, and replace one of the elite infantry blocks with some cavalry.
Then it will be fair.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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2018/11/24 14:42:04
Subject: Some Pointers For Dark Elves
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Nimble Glade Rider
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what orlanth said. Your executioners will slaughter his list and it won't be fun
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2018/11/26 18:05:33
Subject: Some Pointers For Dark Elves
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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Yep, in fact I didnt really go far enough.
Take two masters, one mounted one on foot. Deliberately waste points on them.
As for the cavalry, dark riders instead of cold ones. A small unit of cold one knights will not be a downgrade in lieu of an elite infantry block. Your army will still be too powerful for the take what you can muster the dwarfs have.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
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2018/11/27 19:54:55
Subject: Some Pointers For Dark Elves
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Commanding Lordling
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I have actually found and old fantasy player who saw us playing 8th and he has 7k ogres. We played a 4 way triumph and treachery Sunday actually. So I do have someone to throw the heavy stuff at guys. But yeah I do game with the mini dwarf army and Greenskins players a lot. So I will tone it down for them. (Greenskin player maybe able to handle a little heaviness once the battalion is completed though I think he has like 3 wizards)
Also once the high elf and Skaven armies are done those should end up being fairly competitive as well. It’s just the dwarfs that are lagging.
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