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**Lance845**

So they change some things and add to some things with the backgrounds of every character.

By the end of the series you see quite a bit of spike, julia, and vicious's background together.

Julia is turned into a whole character instead of spike's girlfriend in the fridge.

Faye's acting is really good for the version of Faye that we get. She isn't the insurmountable debt version of the character (which is pretty flat. One dimensional except for a couple episodes of the anime where they actually get into her past). In a lot of ways what we get is way more personal for her. And it works in the show. She has more stakes in the now and they do more with it.

**Overread**

Faye always felt like a late bloomer in the original series. Her story only really gets going just as the series starts to come to an end. I think if they'd had more time to do a bit more with her. She certainly had an interesting past once they took a look inside it. It's just it kind of got overshadowed by Spike's past and events at the end.

Then again we learned almost nothing of Ed's background either.

**privateer4hire**

I watched it and had previously watched the original. Ironic snake will bite me but I was just relieved that Boba Fett and Luke didn’t swoop in to save the main characters.

Far from perfect but I thought it was good.

**Aash**

Looks like it’s been cancelled.

https://tvline.com/2021/12/09/cowboy-bebop-cancelled-netflix-season-2-john-cho/

Personally I think that’s a shame as I quite enjoyed it.

**trexmeyer**

It got cancelled fast. I can't believe they didn't even do a follow up season. They dragged out that awful Sabrina series for 3 seasons before it got cancelled.

**Hoitash**

A lot of anime reviewers were not kind, so that might have played a part. With Crunchy and Funimation merging, Netflix needs the anime fans on side to help fight the near monopoly that merger will create.

**chromedog**

Netflix wanted to be the next SciFi channel.

They made it. They've now canned more SF shows than the Scifi channel did.

Netflix: Imagine your show, cancelled.

**churchofsolipsism**

LunarSol wrote:
AduroT wrote:
I’d wager Toonami Dragonball brought anime to the west, but that was so long ago I don’t remember clearly.

LOTS of anime predates Bebop. Or Dragon Ball. I mean, I was watching Voltron in the early 80's. Even Dragonball had early morning runs on various networks before Toonami brought it to prime time. The important thing to remember about Bebop is really how well it was translated. DBZ came across HEAVILY censored with a handful of voice actors doing goofy voices for the different characters. That was pretty much the norm in the US. Cartoons were for kids and kind of one man performances from the days of Mel Blanc. The few exceptions were stuff sold to the edgy MTV crowd, but even the likes of Ninja Scroll had terrible performances. The few attempts at high profile dubs (Princess Mononoke) often brought in professional actors but didn't really result in great translations.

Bebop REALLY changed the game on dub quality. Steve Blum is so prolific now its almost a running gag, but that's just because he set a new standard for what could be expected from western voice acting. It had been a change that brewed throughout the 90's on the back of Batman TAS, but it really took off with Bebop. Not just a huge leap in the quality of anime dubs, but western animation in general. There was really no defending dubs prior to Bebop, but Bebop was a point where anime culture could connect with a more mainstream audience. It wasn't the first by any means, nor the most influential, but it just kind of landed as this common ground where so many overlapping groups of fans of entertainment could find something to bond over.

Bebop's voice acting is wonderful, no doubt about it, but Manga Entertainment got a couple of things right as well. Check out absolutely brilliant dub of Cyber City Oedo, for example.

As for the rest, wife and I only watched the first episode of Cowboy Bebop (the live action version) before she contracted Corona and went into quarantine, and we liked it, and we're big fans of the original, so we're looking forward to watching the rest of it. John Cho was surprisingly good as Spike, not so sure yet about the rest of the casting.

**Gitzbitah**

Early on it very much reminded me of Firefly....

Now it REALLY reminds me of Firefly.

Real shame, that cast of theirs was really enjoying themselves. The Bebop especially all were obviously having a great time with their roles.

**Nevelon**

Shame. I watched and quite enjoyed it.

**MDSW**

No season 2??!! ...run scene from BASEketball where Trey is watching the disturbing trailer and going, Awwww, aww, awwww, awwwwwwww, aww, awwwwwwwwwww...

I am about 6 episodes in and rather enjoying it. I really like the actors with the main characters, but I am least fond of Viscious - sure, he looks the part, but not fond of his portrayal. I never watched the anime, but do recall flipping past it and stopping for a bit, but never staying long enough to have an impression. So, I will have to put the anime series on my 'watch' list.

So frustrating that Netflix is willing to pull the plug so quick on so many shows. Sure, they can't all be Squid Games successful (create for cheap and then go through the roof), as this show along with Jupiter's Legacy seemed to just be getting their feet under them when yanked.

Does Netflix really have that deep of a bench where they can yank out their players and replace so quickly? Obviously so. I am sure it has to do with production costs (its always about money), as both CB and JL had fairly high CGI/production costs.

**Argive**

This show is hot garbage.. watched the first episode and decide to stop there haha

I don't think this particular anime can make the transfer to live action. Some things should jut be left alone.
Think its a big shame because it will undoubtedly put people off from watching the anime which is all time great anime IMO.

**SamusDrake**

Just when I thought "so it has got both Ein AND Ed in it...okay, lets sign up to Netflix...three, two, one lets - ", they pull a Disney+ and cancel it, just like they did with The Owl House.

Seriously, what is wrong with these subscription services? When they finally get me all buttered up, they drop me on the floor buttered side down. Next it'll be a Necromunda live action show on WH+, and then they'll cancel that after five episodes...

**Mr Morden**

Never seen the original

Watched this out of curoristy...didn;t grab me for some reason - I quite liked the Sin City visual style...but.....

I don't know I just didn't enjoy it very much. Maybe its cos I don't like Jazz music.

They dragged out that awful Sabrina series for 3 seasons before it got cancelled.

I really enjoyed Sabrina - except the last episode....

**Turnip Jedi**

trexmeyer wrote:
It got cancelled fast. I can't believe they didn't even do a follow up season. They dragged out that awful Sabrina series for 3 seasons before it got cancelled.

Maybe the cashflow at the Flix is getting bumpy as even terrible shows like the aforementioned Sabrina as it, besides the lovely Ms Shipka, got worse every season but still got the 3 and out standard Netflix run

**MDSW**

Well, the last episode with Ed showed me a character that I am not sure I could watch for an extended length of time. Might work in Anime (the whiney blond demon slayer kid from Demon Slayer comes to mind - so great), but would not want to watch a live action person to this extreme.

Sabrina? Watched about one season... I just could no longer get past the show's obvious and and perpetual push for demon worship and constantly saying how great it is. I could just see goth kids by the boatload jumping on that band wagon.

**Grumpy Gnome**

Mrs. GG and I were a couple of the folks that only recently came at the live action version without having seen the anime and we really enjoyed it. Well Mrs. GG really enjoyed it… I loved it! This was one broken hearted Gnome when we found out it was cancelled… like Firefly… the trauma continues… the wounds just will not heal….

**Lance845**

Watch the Cartoon and let all wounds heal. The original is great.

**AduroT**

Yeah, the live action isn’t Bad, but the anime is much Better.

**Vulcan**

I've watched the first three episodes so far. Not sure why this gets so much hate online. Given the media they're working with I think it's just fine.

Granted, not as good as the anime, but better than 99% of what's put out as 'entertainment' these days.

**techsoldaten**

Can anyone give me an example of an anime that successfully translated into a live action series?

Characterize success however you want, but explain what you mean.

Something about the genre makes me think it can't be done with real people.

**AduroT**

Lets see, Alita wasn’t too bad. Speed Racer is quite good. Does Detective Pikachu count? Also enjoyable.

**techsoldaten**

AduroT wrote:
Lets see, Alita wasn’t too bad. Speed Racer is quite good. Does Detective Pikachu count? Also enjoyable.

Those are movies, right? I was asking about series.

Enjoyed Alita and Speed Racer as movies. But series are different.

**H.B.M.C.**

Vulcan wrote:
Not sure why this gets so much hate online.

Because it's awful. Unadulterated awful. Julia and Vicious are the two worst mistakes the show makes. They drain everything out of the story.

**ZebioLizard2**

techsoldaten wrote:
AduroT wrote:
Lets see, Alita wasn’t too bad. Speed Racer is quite good. Does Detective Pikachu count? Also enjoyable.

Those are movies, right? I was asking about series.

Enjoyed Alita and Speed Racer as movies. But series are different.

Way of the Househusband was genuinely great, but was produced in Japan.

**tauist**

Never having seen the original, I watched the whole season. Kind of liked it. Not sure I'll ever watch the original because I find watching Anime very hard these days. Most anime is just so.. loud yknow

**Overread**

tauist wrote:
Never having seen the original, I watched the whole season. Kind of liked it. Not sure I'll ever watch the original because I find watching Anime very hard these days. Most anime is just so.. loud yknow

Bebop is classic anime so its really nothing like modern anime.

Also as its been mentioned Alita was ok, but I had to stop watching it part way through as they seem dead set on telling the entire story in one film and I'm only part way through the manga. It's a film which, to me, just feels like they tried to cover way too much in one go. There's no pause to dwell on events and the need to cover so much ground rushes ever so much of the actual story and developments. It's not bad in of itself, but its just very rushed if you know the original source material.

**chaos0xomega**

Bebop is classic anime so its really nothing like modern anime.

Even as a classic anime it was really nothing like other classic anime. Bebop pushed the boundaries of the genre and did a lot of things nobody else was doing at the time (nor are doing today). Thats part of what makes the series so iconic and monolithic - because its so singular in its approach to art/animation, storytelling, narrative structure, etc.

Personally Bebop has basically ruined all other anime for me, like tauist I struggle watching most other anime (aside from The Big O and older UC era Gundam stuff) and generally just find modern anime to be extremely cringe. I constantly find myself trying to find new anime to watch that are similar to Bebop, and then I just end up watching Bebop instead because nothing out there comes anywhere close to it.

**AduroT**

You might give Samurai Champloo a try.

**chaos0xomega**

I started watching it once. It was okay but it didn't strike the same chords or hit the same notes for me.