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2021/06/12 11:41:27
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
warboss wrote: I dread to hear what sort of woke changes they'll inevitably make to the original. He Man (along with an obscure Aussie kangaroo live action show called Skippy) is literally my first childhood fandom/pop culture memory and it holds a special place for me.
I have no intention of seeing it.
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2021/06/12 19:11:21
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
Man, people sure do get upset about childrens entertainment designed to sell toys.
I hope children enjoy this show and it has positive messages for them.
I luckily manage to make it through my life without being in a constant state of agitation over "wokeness", something that people seem to struggle to define when asked to.
You're reacting to a post written in 2019, which was dredged back up to the current thread for "reasons."
It's pretty self evident that those issues are not looking likely to manifest, so probably just better to move on.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Wouldn’t it be terrible if they rounded off each episode with some kind of simply moral lesson. Like not cheating, sharing your toys, loyalty, friendship and that.
Would be completely betraying the hardcore nature of the original.
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Question from someone who hasn't seen it - why the apparent dislike for the recent She-Ra series?
Did see someone having a go at Kevin Smith about the sjw/woke level of the show - quite like his response, really. Probably more polite than I'd've been.
Buddy Christ appearing in the replies was a nice touch.
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Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
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- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
2021/06/12 22:07:08
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
Dysartes wrote: Question from someone who hasn't seen it - why the apparent dislike for the recent She-Ra series?
Did see someone having a go at Kevin Smith about the sjw/woke level of the show - quite like his response, really. Probably more polite than I'd've been.
Buddy Christ appearing in the replies was a nice touch.
Queer creators (and that isn't meant in derogatory way, its how they label themselves), queer story, non-sexualized female characters, different animation style (no 'animation library' of recycled movements in front of still backgrounds- the backgrounds are one of the few things that are impressive about the original, IMO), women with agency, take your pick. Or just people hated changed things because change, I guess.
As someone who missed the originals (I was overseas when they aired in the US), I don't get the hate. The reboot is probably one of the best TV/Movie/etc things I've seen in the last decade. But I'm a sucker for villains with motivations, and ditching tired, unnecessary nonsense around secret identities and silly toy tropes. It had its weak points, but the crew fought like hell to get the story they wanted done, and even some of the weaker episodes are at least fun or interesting.
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2021/06/13 08:27:57
Subject: Re:Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
The_Grim_Angel wrote: I always hoped to see a remake of "Masters of the Universe" in which:
1) Teela actually is the daughter of Sorceres and Man-at-arms: this would create a strongest bond among the three character;
2) Teela doesn't became the new Grayskull keeper: she and Sorceress have two totally different roles in the story and both of them are equally useful;
3) She-ra lives in the same planet of He-man: this would allow some interesting crossover among the two series; 4) She-ra isn't the He-man's sisters, but his cousin: I always found out the story they are siblings a little be forced.
The fourth point isn't really important, but do you think my first three desires will be grant?
I don't expect it to be the case, even if just going from the artistic direction.
Then again, I really, really liked the new She-Ra cartoon, so another new He-Man show/reboot meant to tie off with that one? I'd be all for it.
2021/06/14 02:55:29
Subject: Re:Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
I haven't had chance to watch it myself yet, but given that the themes being explored in the new show is pertinent to recent conversations, I figured I'd share it now and catch up later.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
I think that’s the best definition of nostalgia I’ve seen; the comfort of things that made you happy as a child.
A small thing, but I really like that they appear to have given Prince Adam more human proportions. My memory says he was always pretty buff even in his secret identity, almost to the point of “how does everyone not know it’s him”.
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2021/06/14 07:24:09
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
Jadenim wrote: My memory says he was always pretty buff even in his secret identity, almost to the point of “how does everyone not know it’s him”.
Adam was just He-Man with slightly different coloured (yellower) hair and a pink shirt. So, yes, there was even less excuse than when an award-winning investigative reporter failed to notice how much Clark looked like Superman... He at least changed his hairstyle and popped on a pair of glasses.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Just did some googling to refresh my memory... turns out the toy was just a straight repaint of the He-Man figure with a velvet shirt (which appears to have been more of a deep red, rather than the pink from the cartoon. It was the '80s... can't have boys with pink toys!)
They didn't even bother switching to unarmoured arms, so he still has He-Man's bracers, just coloured white to blend in with his undershirt.
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2021/06/14 08:00:21
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
I was going to say 'That's crazy, of course they did!' because I'm sure I remember mine having grey painted bracers.
From looking online, though, it would appear you are correct, they're just painted with his arms. Some of the variant figures have them painted (some of the Battle Armour version do, some don't, for example, may have been a regional or batch thing) but the original figure didn't.
Although remembering the colours some of my Star Wars figures ended up (had to do something with all of those excess R2-D2s...), I may well have painted them myself and forgotten about it.
2021/06/14 08:47:29
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
since we've deviated on to the actual original toy line.... was anything ever made of the fact that the Skeletor figure came with an 'evil half' of the Sword of Power - and the two halves could be combined to make one sword?
2021/06/14 09:13:38
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: And the two halves put together served as a key to the Jawbridge of Castle Greyskull.
Right, the whole thing was designed as toys first. He-Man would battle Skeletor and whoever won would take the other's half of the sword of power, use it to unlock Greyskull, and flip the flag to their side to control it. Battle would then resume to try and flip it back.
Dysartes wrote: Question from someone who hasn't seen it - why the apparent dislike for the recent She-Ra series?
Did see someone having a go at Kevin Smith about the sjw/woke level of the show - quite like his response, really. Probably more polite than I'd've been.
Buddy Christ appearing in the replies was a nice touch.
Queer creators (and that isn't meant in derogatory way, its how they label themselves), queer story, non-sexualized female characters, different animation style (no 'animation library' of recycled movements in front of still backgrounds- the backgrounds are one of the few things that are impressive about the original, IMO), women with agency, take your pick. Or just people hated changed things because change, I guess.
As someone who missed the originals (I was overseas when they aired in the US), I don't get the hate. The reboot is probably one of the best TV/Movie/etc things I've seen in the last decade. But I'm a sucker for villains with motivations, and ditching tired, unnecessary nonsense around secret identities and silly toy tropes. It had its weak points, but the crew fought like hell to get the story they wanted done, and even some of the weaker episodes are at least fun or interesting.
Anyone complaining about the reboot shouldn't be able to stomach a single episode of the original. Honestly, the worst thing about the reboot as far as I was concerned was trying to keep the incredibly cheesy character names from the original toy line that just clash terribly with the well thought out characters that are forced to bear them.
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2021/06/14 14:43:54
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
The_Grim_Angel wrote: I always hoped to see a remake of "Masters of the Universe" in which:
1) Teela actually is the daughter of Sorceres and Man-at-arms: this would create a strongest bond among the three character;
2) Teela doesn't became the new Grayskull keeper: she and Sorceress have two totally different roles in the story and both of them are equally useful;
3) She-ra lives in the same planet of He-man: this would allow some interesting crossover among the two series; 4) She-ra isn't the He-man's sisters, but his cousin: I always found out the story they are siblings a little be forced.
The fourth point isn't really important, but do you think my first three desires will be grant?
I don't expect it to be the case, even if just going from the artistic direction.
Then again, I really, really liked the new She-Ra cartoon, so another new He-Man show/reboot meant to tie off with that one? I'd be all for it.
The problem is the IP rights, She-Ra and He-Man are (somehow) different IPs and getting both to be in the same cartoon is a legal headache.
Matt Swain wrote:So anyone want to start a betting pool on which characters will be turned into the mandatory LGBTQ characters?
All of them:
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2021/06/14 15:12:17
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
Honestly, the worst thing about the reboot as far as I was concerned was trying to keep the incredibly cheesy character names from the original toy line that just clash terribly with the well thought out characters that are forced to bear them.
Sure, but consider that canonically, catra's full name is now Catra Applesauce Meowmeow so that's amazing.
2021/06/14 17:33:01
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
Dysartes wrote: Question from someone who hasn't seen it - why the apparent dislike for the recent She-Ra series?
I don't like the art style. For me, that's the beginning, middle, and end of it. Same reason I couldn't watch the Netflix Godzilla series, and I love Godzilla.
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2021/06/14 20:30:07
Subject: Masters Of The Universe: Revelation - 10 June Trailer Page 3
Dysartes wrote: Question from someone who hasn't seen it - why the apparent dislike for the recent She-Ra series?
I don't like the art style. For me, that's the beginning, middle, and end of it. Same reason I couldn't watch the Netflix Godzilla series, and I love Godzilla.
Do you mean the Godzilla series where Godzilla rendered the earth uninhabitable? It was miserable. You missed nothing.