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Infiltrating Broodlord





Toronto, Ontario

I made it 20 hours before I had to turn it off.

Spoiler:


The first 10 to 12 hours are absolutely sublime. The game was on a trajectory to crack my top 5. The suspense and the pacing were top notch. Following Tommy's killing spree into Seattle and catching Nora were incredibly satisfying. The story really felt like it was building toward something as you went deeper down the WLF rabbit hole.

The decision to force a 10+ hour flashback right in the middle of the damn climax absolutely torpedoed this game. A 15-20 minute sequence to flesh out Abby's character would have been awesome. I really dig when villains are treated as characters in their own right rather than obstacles for the protagonist to overcome. The problem is that Abby's character really isn't that compelling. Her campaign hangs itself on the WLF vs Scars conflict, but it feels completely unnecessary because you already learn quite a bit about that war from Ellie's perspective. As a result, Abby's campaign felt like needless filler to pad the game's length. It's aimless and boring.

It hoovers up all the momentum in the story and destroyed my enthusiasm for the climax. After playing so long as her, I was so damn bored and disinterested that I just couldn't care anymore. Once I got to day 2 for Abby, the knowledge I'd finished less than half her side of the story broke what little resolve I had left to get to the end.

I think the story would have been great if it were executed differently, but as it stands I just couldn't recommend it to anyone.

   
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balmong7 wrote:
I don't really have any intention of playing part 1 or part 2. but I have been following these discussions closely because it's my wife's favorite game and I want to prepare myself for the shitstorm to come.

It honestly sounds to me like the issue with this game is that the gameplay isn't serving the story, and is in fact hindering it. This almost makes it more interesting because we have been complaining about the ludonarrative dissonance in games like Bioshock infinite or Tomb Raider where a character complains about killing 1 person only to turn around and murder hundreds. But this game seems to take it to a whole new level with fairly standard revenge is bad subplot that makes no sense because the gameplay only serves to instill the opposite desires and messages in the audience's head.


I actually think there's a lot of nice touches with this. NPCs have a lot of passive banter and come across as pretty normal people. They often refer to one another by their first names and their dialog sounds more like what you hear out of allied NPCs than enemies. It does take long for it to feel like you're in the wrong, but that illusion kind of breaks if you try to do anything differently. Like I had an NPC beg for their life but there's no way to show them mercy. They won't flee and as soon as you move away from them they return to basic cover shooter target mode.

Overall, I'm finding the story effective, but it's definitely bloated, feeling like its overstayed its welcome before the perspective switch. Feels like its trying to pull a Nier, but with a sluggish stealth engine. I still have a lot to get through, but I feel like its shaping up to be a lot of what I felt about the original both good and bad.
   
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests






Right behind you.

 Grimskul wrote:
 flamingkillamajig wrote:
They're preventing returns because people have been coming in droves to return their game copies.


Yup, nothing says confidence in their own game's story and quality than stamping down on people remotely talking about the leaks before release and then stopping returns because they don't want to admit they bamboozled people with a misleading trailer.

No horse in this race, but I cannot think of anywhere accepting returns of any opened products right now.
   
Made in us
Junior Officer with Laspistol




pontiac, michigan; usa

 Kanluwen wrote:
 Grimskul wrote:
 flamingkillamajig wrote:
They're preventing returns because people have been coming in droves to return their game copies.


Yup, nothing says confidence in their own game's story and quality than stamping down on people remotely talking about the leaks before release and then stopping returns because they don't want to admit they bamboozled people with a misleading trailer.

No horse in this race, but I cannot think of anywhere accepting returns of any opened products right now.


They have lots of new used copies coming in. I imagine the Korean dude that cut up his discs wouldn't get anything for it. I wonder if this is gonna end up like that E.T. game in the landfills. It shouldn't be that bad.

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Right behind you.

Who has these copies? And you know that "new, used copies" aren't the same as returns if it's people attempting to do trade-ins/sellbacks right?
   
Made in gb
Executing Exarch






I dont even play play some of the games I get for free on the PS4....

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AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
 
   
Made in us
Junior Officer with Laspistol




pontiac, michigan; usa

 Kanluwen wrote:
Who has these copies? And you know that "new, used copies" aren't the same as returns if it's people attempting to do trade-ins/sellbacks right?


They don't buy used games? Perhaps eBay is flooded with em. We shall see. I'm about to check. For what it's worth I'm going on what I heard.

Ok looks like 525 results for last of us part 2 on eBay. It's tricky to say. Some are over 60 USD but I'm seeing a lot of used copies around 35 USD or so. Dunno if it's a flood of copies but it's still significant considering it's new.

Another update. I added thinned results to buy now only. The special edition seem to be going for ridiculous amounts. However the normal edition is some up and some down. I can't really say what the reality is.

A bunch of gamers are still pissed. I actually caught a reviewer saying both common perspectives are actually legit in their own ways. He gets a bit political (not too much but it's in there) and he isn't a fan of social justice but hearing his take is a bit interesting. I'm not sure if anybody wants to take a look.

His handle on YouTube is:

Critical Drinker

in case you like the persona of a drunken Scotsman with a decent sense of humor, wit and sarcasm. He's a writer too so he's a decent judge of writing.

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