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2021/04/09 00:01:16
Subject: Re:Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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Njord unlocked and wow. He's really great. Hands down best in show so far. Vidar is on deck Vidar is unlocked. Pretty simple yet posed just right so it doesn't look awkward like the previous Jotunn. Harald Hardrada is next. They're skill keeping SG at 35k there's an announcement coming later today, might be a card storage box add on. They're also going to start showing off what's in the add on boxes starting today (friday) as well I believe.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2021/04/09 20:13:50
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2021/04/10 07:50:09
Subject: Re:Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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The announcement was that they're adding in a Solo game mode. There will be, for now, 2 for MBP and 4 for MBR that will come out at somepoint as Solo rules don't really exist at the moment.
Harald is unlocked. Who's an historical person
Just a nice, standard sculpt.
Varangain Guard troops are next who were the Mercenary unit he was in.
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2021/04/10 08:22:20
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
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Not a real solo mode, rather some self contained solo scenarios. Like the hunt for the Hydra, back in MBP.
Which is fine by me. I really welcome any solo stuff, but a true AI would be very hard to implement.
Darn, I swore to skip this one but I am back in again...
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2021/04/10 09:50:25
Subject: Re:Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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Yu Jing Martial Arts Ninja
North Wales
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Deleted.
I was going to mention Harald, but got the wrong one. Why is everyone called Harald/Harold?!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/04/10 09:54:28
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2021/04/10 18:55:15
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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Garfield666 wrote:Not a real solo mode, rather some self contained solo scenarios. Like the hunt for the Hydra, back in MBP. Which is fine by me. I really welcome any solo stuff, but a true AI would be very hard to implement. Darn, I swore to skip this one but I am back in again... No, they're doing something new. I suspect it will be similar to Conan's solo AI due to the similar board structure: We will detail more about how the mechanics will work in the near future, as we need to be certain our direction is the best it can be. That will require more time and tests. Rest assured, our aim is to preserve the core combat mechanics of Mythic Battles, while creating an engaging AI and dynamic scenarios. We're actually aiming to offer our MBP owners a sample of this system, sooner rather than later. We already have 2 Mythic Battles : Pantheon scenarios in play testing, tentatively titled 'A Desperate Gambit' and 'The Heart of Cerberus'. Once we're happy with them, we'll share them with you.
Varangian Guard unlocked Freyr is next. He's probably the most requested god so this will make people happy. Also the first SG over 35k in quite a while. I suspect with the weekend duldrums that this might take a bit to unlock. They've also started previewing add ons. First one is Surt. I'll post a scale shot.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2021/04/10 19:55:33
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2021/04/12 02:02:40
Subject: Re:Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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Freyr unlocked.
Surprised he has his sword as he's not supposed to during Ragnarok.
His boar Gullinbrsti is up next at 50k. They're planning on listing some things from MBP in the next day or two and probably expecting a rush of new funds when that happens.
Also previewed Jörmungand. I know a lot of people want it to be much, much bigger but I doubt as many people would buy it at, say, $50 vs the $20 it is now.
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2021/04/12 06:25:36
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Does this game ever seem like you are just playing a 54mm skirmish game?
It looks like there might be so much big stuff on the board that the big stuff loses its shine... Basically gods only look impressive if they are surrounded by much smaller models.
That being said I really like the Varangian Guard and snake wolf giant lady. That one definitely sounds like something drunk vikings would make up.
"Yeah, but the demon wolf's hair is actual snakes!"
"Ok Harald, that's enough ale for you tonight"
The Jormungand is a big miss for me. It just doesn't look impressive on the table, just like a big ball of plastic. Curling up in a ball also seems like something a scared snake would do.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/04/12 06:26:13
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2021/04/12 13:51:22
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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Fixture of Dakka
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The game does sometimes seem to ignore the little guys, like the tanks in a Kaiju film. It depends a lot on the list builds, however. Some lists can go really monster heavy with lots of big stuff, others can go legend/hero/mortal heavy (I am conflating the terms with Of Gods and Mortals I think).
One thing that is easy to overlook with list drafting is that mortal units can be infinitely resummoned by their gods. So little swarm lists can be a giant pain as they wear down the bigger stuff, and you always have to have some of the little buggers anyway.
TL;DR Mostly it is just the gods and titans that are huge, with lesser beings scurrying around their ankles, although you can run a mostly big stuff list.
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2021/04/12 16:53:27
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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Speaking of big stuff. Gullinbursti is unlocked and I have a feeling it's going to be mostly a love or hate model.
Princess Skuld the half elf is up next.
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2021/04/12 17:04:37
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Techno fantasy never works for me, and that boar is no exception.
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2021/04/12 20:18:01
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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I don't mind techno fantasy but this is an odd abstract sculpture that I can tell is a boar but probably won't be fun to paint and is a bit too much out of place with everything else in the box (which I feel is the most important, nothing else looks like this by a mile).
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/04/12 20:18:15
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2021/04/14 18:27:11
Subject: Re:Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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Couple more unlocks and an new addon. Ymir was officially added for $22 but didn't seam to be the draw they were hoping as it didn't even registered in the daily funding via kicktraq so with 5 days left I wonder if they're just going to wait out the next 2-3 days and wait for the rush to hopefully kick in or if we'll see MBP stuff as add ons soon? I know Friday we're getting info on the Conan Crossover and price but that's not going to make a large bump either I would wadger. Skuld is unlocked. Nice concept but kind of an average mini, i think it's just the odd way the spell effect is in her hand. A good paint job though would probably make this better. Next is Hrolf, Skuld's half brother she kills. He's got a nice amount of personality. Next is Bodvar Bjarki the Berserker. He has two minis as he shape changes into the bear that's been the stretch goal image for the campaign.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/04/14 18:30:40
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2021/04/15 15:33:12
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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Stoic Grail Knight
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I'm losing interest in this one by the day. I'm sure it will be a good game, but I'm not really interested in 54mm skirmish, and there isn't enough "wow" aesthetically for me to sacrifice something else to fit this in the closet.
I like a few of the sculpts alot, but there are enough that are not "must haves" that I think I'll give this a pass.
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2021/04/16 02:35:01
Subject: Re:Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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2021/04/16 03:31:46
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Frig looks Friggin good! I think that is my favorite God so far. The bear also looks cool.
Funny you should mention Solomon Kane, I backed, then unbacked, then upped to a dollar, then went all in the day before the pledge manager closed. Wave 1 just delivered to me today!
Maybe by the end of the campaign there will be enough to temp me into this one.
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2021/04/16 04:06:10
Subject: Re:Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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I hope SK turns out to be good. They really delayed it to try and get the narrative stuff working so it would suck if that fell flat. The concept for Frig is great too.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/04/16 04:07:02
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2021/04/18 22:43:35
Subject: Re:Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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Last 24 hours of the campaign and pretty much everything unlocked. I was out of town the past bit so I didn't update.
first off is the Troll which is an interesting mix of rock (that trolls turn into in some stories) and the hairy Scandinavian designs of trolls. I like it as it's fairly unique and would be cool to paint up.
Next are some Huscarls troops. Pretty standard designs but nice none the less. The troops have all been really good in this game even if they are monopose.
Freyja's cats. Kind of giant Bobcat looking things. Like them.
Some Dwarves are unlocked. I would have figured they go with the named dwarves that made all the god's equipment as a hero set but we're getting them as troops. Like the rocks as hair and around their arms.
We got Odin's Wolves (in the asgaurd box), Freyja's cats so then there's Thor's goats.
The last of the mini unlocks is Angrboda, Loki's wife and the mother of a lot of the monsters in the game.
The campaign also hit 2 million which is a free giant storage box as all the unlocked stuff were pre-planned, as expected, and fit in the main box. It was meant to be the last Stretch Goal but they decided to add Baldr at 2,100,000 but there's no art or gameplay design for him.
They also committed to supporting the Mythic Battle games outside of Kickstarter, which it does need to have a good playerbase, which is something they've said in the past via comments but it's nice to see it in an update.
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2021/04/18 22:54:01
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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Dakka Veteran
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This campaign, for some reason, failed to capture my imagination. I'll get the core box, but my purchase is based on how good the game is and an assumption they'll keep it up.
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2021/04/18 23:14:17
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's different then Pantheon for sure where I feel they took a very safe generic approach to a lot of things while with Ragnarok they tried to do some unique deisgns. There are a lot more things in Ragnarok that I love and a lot more that I don't like at all while Pantheon was mostly down the middle of that's a perfectly good design but I can't think of a sculpt that amazed me. Also helped that the main reason I backed Pantheon was minis for RPG games. Probably doing the same for this as I only have the core and one Titan atm. With Pantheon I did the core box and one expansion but Asguard doesn't grab me enough to buy for use in other games.
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2021/04/19 00:02:08
Subject: Re:Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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> Also helped that the main reason I backed Pantheon was minis for RPG games.
Yep. I believe D&D drew more monsters from Greek mythology than Norse. Ragnorak also doesn't have as many different troops as Pantheon (11 vs 16), and the troops are 28mm while heroes and gods are not. More of the Pantheon monsters could be dropped into an RPG game, while I'd say the Ragnorak ones would require a little work.
The base pledge is also higher, $99 for Pantheon vs. $119 for Ragnorak. I would also argue that Americans, at least, are more familiar with the (number of) gods, heroes, and monsters of Greek mythology than Norse. And I suspect many KS delayed their 2020 projects for 2021, resulting in more than usual numbers of high-pledge KS.
That's not to say Ragnorak wasn't successful. But it's not uncommon to see on KS a creator putting a more popular subject first with a lower price, to establish a foothold in the hobby market.
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2021/04/19 01:10:35
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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Someone in the comments of the KS did the math and Ragnarok was cheaper at $119 for the total value of the base + SG the Pantheon once you took into account inflation and purchasing power of the dollar as Pantheon was 6 years ago. So assuming the math is correct that's rather interesting as there are more in Pantheon.
Also Heroes and Troops are the same scale. Both 32mm in MBR.
I think all the monsters but Fanfir and Hyrrokkin (wolf snake lady) would be easy to slot into a RPG game. All the Jutunn could be giants or trolls for your average D&D game. The rest are pretty much giant animals, undead or ogres. But Pantheon does have some iconic stuff vs things that are just dire animals or substitutions.
Since I tend to run now days low magic games, like Conan, or looking at running some of the stuff out of Scandinavia , like Trudavang, MBR is actually a better selection for me.
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2021/04/19 18:03:03
Subject: Monolith : Mythic Battles : Ragnarok
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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4 hours left and there's two more gods unlocked. Baldur and Silf. No art for either. Current SG is more Jarl cards. I suspect if there's any more unlocks after those it will be more cards. Automatically Appended Next Post: Jarls unlocked and they added one more hero Idunn. With 8 min left it looks like we're going to be very close in the same funding as MBP and possibly exceed number of backers. Automatically Appended Next Post: Done. MBR: 2,434,045 from 13,315 backers ($185 average) MBP: 2,668,101 from 13,634 backers ($196 average) Not to bad. Automatically Appended Next Post: They've decided to scale up Fenrir to titan size and add an alternate head so you can have with sword in mouth or not. Some more Jarl cards were added, Loki is getting a resculpt as well. Also this which I'm not quite sure what it will be outside of some more units. We will also launch a survey to eventually integrate some of the requests you made during the campaign into the Pledge Manager, as well as to decide, together, on the next Mythic Battles lineup. More surprises may come up during this discussion. We hope that long-time backers of Mythic Battles: Pantheon will consider taking a coin for the crossing.
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