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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
There’s no sensitivity. Just deeper explanations, including the social and economic climate of Britain that both sets of creators grew up in.

Exactly, the bleak reality of the time was just advanced into an even bleaker future, that is something that 2000AD and Warhammer are deeply influenced by. That is the melting pot in which they were both birthed. It was hard to imagine a Star Trek esque future of goodwill and unity.

This thread has been a bit of a nostalgic trip reading it.

Without going to deep into who I hung around with at this time, but names would be recognized I would opine that we all hung out and talked to each other.

The author in me would say, there are no new ideas only new treatments.

So, Nemesis and WH40K call on a certain future gothic look that might arguably have been said to be a mash up of punk meets glam rock (David Bowie for example).

Laserburn table top rules inspired by the same idea of power armoured infantry that Heinlein's Starship Trooper rocked. Not to forget the tremendous influence of Giger and Mad Max.

So WH40K is not stealing from 2000AD, but they are in conversation with each other, and by that I mean a creator hears about a story and goes, 'what if...".

Anyway, great fun talking about this.

Definitely, really interesting thread to read.

I did remember reading an interview with Rick Priestly and managed to find it on Reddit, has a few bits in there about influences on his ideas of 40k and also some of the parallels to our history which are quite interesting

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/9z42fy/qa_with_rick_priestley_part_2_the_lore_of/

Sorry to necro this a bit, but got email from the 2000AD publisher and there's a thrillcast episode which gives further insight into the origins of 2000AD. I think these influences echo also in the beginnins of GW's products as well, and might be interesting for people like me who haven't grown up in UK around those times. Understanding the past more makes you better understand the present.

https://soundcloud.com/2000-ad/kevin-oneill-part-one

Thanks for that, I will definitely give it a listen!

Worthwhile listen for sure. Thanks a lot, sir!

For anyone wavering on deciding whether to subscribe or re-subscribe to 2000ad, I would say go for it, the quality is really good right now.

Ah thanks PaddyMick I had had a subscription previously but had found myself not being that bothered by it and so cancelled (that was probably a year ago). If there are some good individual issues coming along I might have a look again then. Are you getting just the weekly or the monthly megazine as well?

Just the weekly. I tend to buy the monthly as and when there is a strip I want to read, like the recent new Devlin Waugh. I may pick it up now for this new one called Metropolis, which looks interesting.

In the weekly I generally find there are one or two strips I am not bothered about (and there have been ones I actively detest) but right now they are all good. The new Slaine artist is almost as good as Bisley; none of that weird photo stuff that Clint Langley did, and Pat Mills is on form.