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Well, I was wrong. Went in with my bag of low expectations and was consequently blown away. Fantastic film.
   
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Stilgar was one of my biggest dissapointments. Hopefully pt2 improves on that part.

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Well.. I have seen the trailer!
Hoping it will be a good 'big screen' movie and worth the trip to the cinema.

Believe the film is out in the UK this week, so just a case now of timing it now and give it a bit of time for things to get quieter..

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I got tickets to see it on friday, hopefully it does ok in the states. If presales are any indication it might not do as well in china as they were hoping.

 
   
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I read a (spoiler free) review and within that it is recommended, strongly, that you try to see this at an Imax cinema.

Apparently it was shot specifically for Imax screens and so is in 1.90:1 aspect ratio.

This proves problematic on normal cinema screens which means they have to zoom in on shots, which ruins the experience.

Just in case anybody needed to know.

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Got my ticket for Thursday on IMAX!

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The closest IMax to me is.... longer than a sane person would travel.

This news bums me out.

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I might get to watch it on my laptop.

   
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I watched it on a normal cinema and I thought the visuals were actually great. Never felt like it was created for a different screen size.

It's the act of most of the cast and the plot the problems of this movie.


 
   
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StraightSilver wrote:
I read a (spoiler free) review and within that it is recommended, strongly, that you try to see this at an Imax cinema.

Apparently it was shot specifically for Imax screens and so is in 1.90:1 aspect ratio.

This proves problematic on normal cinema screens which means they have to zoom in on shots, which ruins the experience.

Just in case anybody needed to know.


Thanks very much for the heads up

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StraightSilver wrote:
I read a (spoiler free) review and within that it is recommended, strongly, that you try to see this at an Imax cinema.

Apparently it was shot specifically for Imax screens and so is in 1.90:1 aspect ratio.

This proves problematic on normal cinema screens which means they have to zoom in on shots, which ruins the experience.

Just in case anybody needed to know.


My closest IMAX is a longer drive from me than the movie duration. Not that this matters, since we're still not allowed to go there and it doesn't open theatrically here until December. When our lockdown lifts, and I'm able to get my full driver's licence it'll maybe save me 30 minutes on the trip. Still, a longer drive than I would willingly do for a movie. No matter how good it is.

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you know, getting spammed with trailers for Dune on my phone trying to watch youtube is letting me know one thing:

just how INTENSELY cringeworthy a lot of the writing from Dune is when said out loud in a serious tone by humans.

good lord. I was kind of hyped for this movie, but every time an ad pops up and a serious man growls "Lets fight like demons" followed by a lady saying "we have only known the oppression of the outsiders" I do want to die a little.

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What? The dialogue sounds perfectly natural to me. Why, the other day I turned to the person next to me at the DMV and said, “History will remember us as wives.”

Everyone in the building seemed emotionally invested in the conversation after that.

   
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This seems like a thread it's best not to pull at...

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 the_scotsman wrote:
you know, getting spammed with trailers for Dune on my phone trying to watch youtube is letting me know one thing:

just how INTENSELY cringeworthy a lot of the writing from Dune is when said out loud in a serious tone by humans.

good lord. I was kind of hyped for this movie, but every time an ad pops up and a serious man growls "Lets fight like demons" followed by a lady saying "we have only known the oppression of the outsiders" I do want to die a little.


Lol I thought the "lets fight like demons" line was pretty cringe. But it ended up being good ol trailer editing anyway.

Spoiler:

Duncan does say "they fight like demons" speaking to the duke in reference to the time he spent among the fremen.


 
   
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Not the adaptation we were hoping for but the visual experience is very strong.

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I enjoyed it, definitely will watch again, but my hype for the rest of the story is pretty much DOA as I don’t think they’ve even started production. So 3 years minumum I’d say. Thats rough.

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I've seen Villeneuve quoted quite recently saying that if they're greenlit promptly, he could be ready to start production next year. So 2023 isn't impossible.

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Well, it WAS greenlit a couple of months back, and is currently in PRE-production - and still planned to begin principal filming in the new year.

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Well, I saw it last night on IMAX. Plenty to talk about, so my first go will be a little bit stream-of-consciousness, like a spice vision.

Overall, I felt similar to how I felt coming out of Fellowship of the Ring. That I could find ways to criticize it, but it's about as good of a job as I could realistically imagine of adapting the source material. Hard for me to imagine anyone doing it better in that format. It is very Villeneuve in terms of visuals and mood. His films can have a kind of tone poem quality and Dune is no different. See it on as big of a screen as you can. The visuals are really something, and although some may find the Zimmer score to be too bombastic, I thought it was actually one of his more interesting scores in years.

There's plenty that was trimmed.
Spoiler:
Thufir's and Yueh's screentimes were pretty light except the necessary stuff. Honestly, even the Baron's screentime felt light. It's very focused on Leto, Jessica and Paul, and although I would have liked to see a little more of certain characters, I think that's a perfectly appropriate filmmaking decision for this part. Focus it on the family.

Alas, the banquet scene -- one of my favorite in the whole series -- is missing. I understand why...but part of me wants to know how Villeneuve would have attacked it.

I wondered how much they'd "save" for the second part since the book can feel a little front-heavy in certain ways. And the answer is that there's plenty just in terms of additional characters to introduce...we see nothing of Shaddam, Irulan or Feyd. We'll see plenty of Giedi Prime and Kaitain in part two.


But although we can talk about what's missing, the important stuff is there, and there are so many good Dune details that were included. Maula pistols and Atreides hand signals and stilltent explanations and drumsand and an Orange Catholic Bible...I could go on. I think we discussed Paul's headboard before. Although I'd still call everyone's water discipline fairly terrible (LOL), we finally see stillsuit hoods. The book has been distilled down somewhat (pun intended) but not truly dumbed down.

This may seem like an odd thing to hone in on, but I really liked how they handled Jamis.

Spoiler:
Seemed pretty obvious that their fight would more or less be the climax to this part. And that made me curious as to whether we'd get the fight as in the book or a Hollywood version. We got the book version where Paul easily outclasses Jamis. This is important because the Fremen need to be impressed with Paul, but the Hollywood instinct would be for a close, tense fight in order to amp up the drama. Goes to show you that Villeneuve was in control.

But I also really loved Paul's visions of Jamis as his mentor and friend. Great touch...adds poignancy to the fight and death, and also illustrates to Paul and us that his prescience is fallable.


More to say later...I'm still digesting.

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I was pleasantly surprised with it. Villeneuve's drawn out melancholic style really matches the source material, much better than it did Blade Runner imo.

The movie also seemed to stick fairly close to the original story so far, but then again, it has been almost 20 years since I last read Dune. Couple of things were also left unexplained in the movie, which left my friends a bit confused - for example why everyone is fighting with swords and not with guns, especially since there are a couple of depictions of ballistic weapons working on shields (without provoking a nuclear explosion, that is).

I had also hoped for a bit more Baron Harkonnen, as his dialogues were my absolute favourite parts in the book. The cast was also well chosen in my view, as no one looked out of place. The actor for Pyter was particularly amazing, too bad he had so few scenes. Genderswapped Kynes was mildly annoying but ultimately a small concession to Hollywood sensitivities. I also really warmed up to Timothee Chalamet as Paul. He does look a bit uncanny (in a good way) which suits the very alien overall feel of the setting. This is something I really have to point out: They managed to make it feel distinctly alien. The Sardaukar ceremony was haunting and the sense of scale is appropriate and backed up by amazing exposition shots. There are a few deliberate anachronisms, but I feel they worked just fine. The bagpipes might have been a tad too much for me, but it's no dealbraker.

Anyway, looking forward to my second viewing and a possible sequel. I'm a bit worried about box office figures because there is almost no marketing exposure around here, not sure if that's a global thing, but it might become an issue.

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Its the military, gotta have bagpipes.

   
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The_Real_Chris wrote:
Its the military, gotta have bagpipes.



Can't argue with that.
   
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 BertBert wrote:
The_Real_Chris wrote:
Its the military, gotta have bagpipes.



Can't argue with that.


And personal shields, lasers and drop ships! But first bagpipes
   
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The_Real_Chris wrote:
 BertBert wrote:
The_Real_Chris wrote:
Its the military, gotta have bagpipes.



Can't argue with that.


And personal shields, lasers and drop ships! But first bagpipes


Combine them all. Sonic personal shields projected out of the top pipes with a laser coming out of the bottom flute like tube. Thematically, power words can be used with this as well via power ballads.

Edit: Forgot the drop ship. Perhaps for parades as the lead float in front of the bagpipe troopers.

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 BertBert wrote:
This is something I really have to point out: They managed to make it feel distinctly alien. The Sardaukar ceremony was haunting and the sense of scale is appropriate and backed up by amazing exposition shots.


Some of the larger ships and certain images reminded me of the work Giger did for Jodorowsky, actually. Techno-organic look.

Continuing on my thoughts from earlier, I think the standout performance is Rebecca Ferguson. Jessica is a very complex character, and I think Ferguson changes gears really deftly.

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 BertBert wrote:
This is something I really have to point out: They managed to make it feel distinctly alien. The Sardaukar ceremony was haunting and the sense of scale is appropriate and backed up by amazing exposition shots.


Some of the larger ships and certain images reminded me of the work Giger did for Jodorowsky, actually. Techno-organic look.

Continuing on my thoughts from earlier, I think the standout performance is Rebecca Ferguson. Jessica is a very complex character, and I think Ferguson changes gears really deftly.


Yes, I forgot to mention her. Jessica was probably the most convincing character.
   
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 chromedog wrote:
Well, it WAS greenlit a couple of months back, and is currently in PRE-production - and still planned to begin principal filming in the new year.


Got a source for that? Honest question, as this story is less than 24 hours old.
https://screenrant.com/dune-2-movie-sequel-wb-not-confirmed-reason/

Subsequent to that, there's a story where a WB exec has hinted that maybe it has,

https://www.cinemablend.com/movies/dune-2-warner-bros-execs-latest-statement-on-the-denis-villeneuve-sequel-is-puzzling-yet-optimistic

but there very much isn't anything official out there I can find, and certainly not from months ago.

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IIRC, Villeneuve and Spaihts have been writing part two for a while now. Doesn't mean it's been greenlit exactly, but it suggests that they felt it was likely enough to proceed at risk.


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 BertBert wrote:
 gorgon wrote:
 BertBert wrote:
This is something I really have to point out: They managed to make it feel distinctly alien. The Sardaukar ceremony was haunting and the sense of scale is appropriate and backed up by amazing exposition shots.


Some of the larger ships and certain images reminded me of the work Giger did for Jodorowsky, actually. Techno-organic look.

Continuing on my thoughts from earlier, I think the standout performance is Rebecca Ferguson. Jessica is a very complex character, and I think Ferguson changes gears really deftly.


Yes, I forgot to mention her. Jessica was probably the most convincing character.


And it's not the easiest role. She has to balance mother/duke's 'wife'/Bene Gesserit while going through a lot of complex emotions. She's frightened FOR her son, but also BY her son. She's also a mostly dutiful BG -- note she quickly turtles when Mohiam arrives -- but underneath it is a real level of defiance and even arrogance, which is why Paul's around in the first place. And she doesn't blink at using the Fremen to advance her agenda.

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Watched it last night on HBO. Damn good movie. They knocked it out of the park on this one.
   
 
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