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 chromedog wrote:
 SergentSilver wrote:
 chromedog wrote:
One of the guys in a gaming club I'm in has RT roughriders.

The Slouch hat wearing rough-riders. Long before the mongol-hat-wearing 2nd ed version replaced them. Same guy has some Guard medics on metal black shadow bikes.


Oh yeah, I've only ever seen those on SoL.


He got them when you could get a full unit of 10 in one of those hard plastic clear clamshell boxes (I don't know if other countries ever got those. The biggest PITA for getting models out of. ).
By 2nd ed, they'd cemented the "units in card boxes with foam trays thing).


I got a box of metal RT guardmen in one of those boxes in the USA, so they were here as well.

   
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Krieg! What a hole...

Wonder if some of the Krieg Grenadiers count now that they've been gone for a while from FW.

Otherwise, probably my own plastic Stormtroopers that preceded the metal ones most people are familiar with.

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 chromedog wrote:
 SergentSilver wrote:
 chromedog wrote:
One of the guys in a gaming club I'm in has RT roughriders.

The Slouch hat wearing rough-riders. Long before the mongol-hat-wearing 2nd ed version replaced them. Same guy has some Guard medics on metal black shadow bikes.


Oh yeah, I've only ever seen those on SoL.


He got them when you could get a full unit of 10 in one of those hard plastic clear clamshell boxes (I don't know if other countries ever got those. The biggest PITA for getting models out of. ).
By 2nd ed, they'd cemented the "units in card boxes with foam trays thing).


Oh yeah, we got those hard plastic boxes here in the US. They were in use for both RT & WHFB.
   
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 Bobthehero wrote:
Wonder if some of the Krieg Grenadiers count now that they've been gone for a while from FW.

Otherwise, probably my own plastic Stormtroopers that preceded the metal ones most people are familiar with.


You mean the plastic Beret Troopers? I'd forgotten about it prior to setting up that huge array I posted earlier, but 6 of my full squad are those, with the Sgt, Plasma, and HWT being metal. I was actually surprised when I picked them up and remembered they're plastic thanks to how light they are.
   
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Krieg! What a hole...

Yup, those. They're certainly the oldest model I remember seeing IRL, and I'd be willing to bet they're rarer than other variants of Stormtroopers, at least.

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They were the first iteration of stormtroopers for he guard.
A handful of models in metal, with the bulk in clip-together plastic.

I have some of the gasmasked stormtroopers that followed them in 2nd edtion and into 3rd, before they were replaced with the kasrkin figures and a few squads of the original "Imperial army" plastic figures. The ones with lasguns and over-the-shoulder lascannons.

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 chromedog wrote:
They were the first iteration of stormtroopers for he guard.
A handful of models in metal, with the bulk in clip-together plastic.

I have some of the gasmasked stormtroopers that followed them in 2nd edtion and into 3rd, before they were replaced with the kasrkin figures and a few squads of the original "Imperial army" plastic figures. The ones with lasguns and over-the-shoulder lascannons.


Yeah, I snagged a bunch of the original guardsmen both metal and plastic at an antique store. Was expensive on the surface, but I think I paid less than $2 per model, which is crazy cheap for what it had.

Here's a pic of the old plastic guardsmen it came with. A few have newer weapons on them and iirc a couple of the old heavy weapons are metal, but the bodies are all plastic in this pic:

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The one in the front on the far left even has a tank crew style hat. Not sure where that could have come from though.

Actually, it probably came with one of the 3 Rhinos that were part of the set.
I've wondered about this ever since noticing it and only now am I having this revelation.

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 SergentSilver wrote:

The one in the front on the far left even has a tank crew style hat. Not sure where that could have come from though.

Actually, it probably came with one of the 3 Rhinos that were part of the set.
I've wondered about this ever since noticing it and only now am I having this revelation.


It didn't come from the Rhinos. The Rhino kit didn't include gunners/crew/figures of any kind.

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I did used to have some of the ‘at ease’ Cadian Guardsman.

I think they were originally linked to a campaign or event. But I got mine at the Edinburgh store, where they had loads on the peg.

Can’t remember what happened to them in the end.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I did used to have some of the ‘at ease’ Cadian Guardsman.

I think they were originally linked to a campaign or event. But I got mine at the Edinburgh store, where they had loads on the peg.

Can’t remember what happened to them in the end.


I've got two as well. I think I got them in a blister off the shelf right when the 3.5 guard codex came out.
   
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Right behind you.

 chromedog wrote:
They were the first iteration of stormtroopers for he guard.
A handful of models in metal, with the bulk in clip-together plastic.

I have some of the gasmasked stormtroopers that followed them in 2nd edtion and into 3rd, before they were replaced with the kasrkin figures and a few squads of the original "Imperial army" plastic figures. The ones with lasguns and over-the-shoulder lascannons.

The Kasrkin didn't actually "replace" the gas-masked stormtroopers. The gas-masked ones were still on sale until the post-Doctrines book, which used that gas-masked look for the art of Stormtroopers in there.
   
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ccs wrote:
 SergentSilver wrote:

The one in the front on the far left even has a tank crew style hat. Not sure where that could have come from though.

Actually, it probably came with one of the 3 Rhinos that were part of the set.
I've wondered about this ever since noticing it and only now am I having this revelation.


It didn't come from the Rhinos. The Rhino kit didn't include gunners/crew/figures of any kind.


Hm, then I still have no idea. And I guess i have at least the upper body of another plastic guardsmen of the time, since the Rhino I took a picture of has him in the commander spot.
   
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 SergentSilver wrote:
ccs wrote:
 SergentSilver wrote:

The one in the front on the far left even has a tank crew style hat. Not sure where that could have come from though.

Actually, it probably came with one of the 3 Rhinos that were part of the set.
I've wondered about this ever since noticing it and only now am I having this revelation.


It didn't come from the Rhinos. The Rhino kit didn't include gunners/crew/figures of any kind.


Hm, then I still have no idea. And I guess i have at least the upper body of another plastic guardsmen of the time, since the Rhino I took a picture of has him in the commander spot.


To be fair that Rhino is also heavily modified.
   
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ccs wrote:
 SergentSilver wrote:
ccs wrote:
 SergentSilver wrote:

The one in the front on the far left even has a tank crew style hat. Not sure where that could have come from though.

Actually, it probably came with one of the 3 Rhinos that were part of the set.
I've wondered about this ever since noticing it and only now am I having this revelation.


It didn't come from the Rhinos. The Rhino kit didn't include gunners/crew/figures of any kind.


Hm, then I still have no idea. And I guess i have at least the upper body of another plastic guardsmen of the time, since the Rhino I took a picture of has him in the commander spot.


To be fair that Rhino is also heavily modified.


All three were. Whomever owned that collection before me had a bunch of extra stuff to spread around. I can't remember if the turret was part of it, but I want to say I saw the majority of the accessories on the Rhinos in an vehicle accessory set on SoL. I might be misremembering though.


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Unfortunately they're pretty dusty from sitting around for who knows how long before I got them, but here's some quick pics of the three original Rhinos. I really need to get a damp cloth or wet a brush and get rid of that dust, I'm just afraid I'll damage the model or take the paint off with it.

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I think it's pretty cool to see how they added on later parts like the newer tank treads. And while the paintjob isn't amazing, there's something about it that I really like. It has that old school kinda feel with just a flat olive drab and some light edge highlighting.

If I were to use these today, I'd probably run them as Chimera or Hellhound variants since they have those turrets.

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 SergentSilver wrote:
The_Real_Chris wrote:
Anything with bare plastic arms from the rogue trader era...


When you say "bare plastic", do you mean that it still hasn't been painted or just that the arms were originally separate from a metal torso? I'm lucky enough to have gotten a few RT models that would have come with separate arms and weapons sprues, but I can't recall if the arms were plastic or just the weapons. The three I know of right now are all Commissars actually.


Hmm, I should I have written bare arms, plastic? The original Imperial Army and then guard were all metal, then GW went mad with arm sprues. For humans there were two types, sleeved and bare (and they had a to scale weapon set, tiny sawn off shotguns and stub pistols!). For a short while after the sprues went OOP GW cast them in lead (sprue frame 'n all) and you could speciality order them.

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I've got some of the old Confrontation Tech Gangers, if they count.


Yes the second wave of confrontation gangers all used these arm sprues.
   
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Nowhere near as rare as some of the examples in this thread I'm sure, but the rarest IG I've got myself is this (it and a Leman Russ is all the IG I currently have actually) -



Mine's currently black, waiting to be stripped as I bought it 2nd hand, the one above is by Tyler Mengel - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/11/painting-the-steel-legion-dec-11gw-homepage-post-2/


I plan on collecting a Steel Legion army, so naturally I'm after the other lieutenant model as well (two if possible), but along with Steel Legion Plasma Gunners, they seem to be as rare as hens teeth at the moment as far as being up for sale goes, example below -




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My oldest guard figures (still in cupboard of shame) last played with in 5th edition.




I have a 30 man platoon of them, with command squad (mostly metals) and heavy weapon teams.

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 SergentSilver wrote:
I have to ask though, is the Catachan female with Grenade Launcher really that rare? I got two when I bought someone's old metal Catachan along with two of each of the other two Special Weapons models from the same blister with her along with one each of both Catachan Heavy Flamer models. I also see her as both a single model and part of the et of three she came in on ebay all the time. Usually overpriced in my opinion, but I've never considered her any rarer than the rest of them. Others here have listed her as rare too, so I'm starting to wonder.


Didn't see this answered upthread (apologies if it has been).

IIRC the story of the female Catachan grenade launcher mini is that she was a limited edition exclusive in the UK and Europe, but had a general blister-pack release in the US.

North American GW had its own metal casting facilities--maybe still does?--and would occasionally make something more widely available there than elsewhere.

Speaking of OOP metals, here's another cross-the-pond difference: GW stopped using lead in its minis in the US around 1993, but didn't go lead-free in the UK till about 1997-8. Which means you can get 'white metal' / pewter minis for 2nd ed 40K, old school Epic Space Marine, original Warhammer Quest and so on if it comes from the US, or lead minis of same from the UK for the same period. Lead is softer and easier to convert, but then again may melt your brain should you (or a small child) eat it. Take your pick.
   
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Zenithfleet wrote:
 SergentSilver wrote:
I have to ask though, is the Catachan female with Grenade Launcher really that rare? I got two when I bought someone's old metal Catachan along with two of each of the other two Special Weapons models from the same blister with her along with one each of both Catachan Heavy Flamer models. I also see her as both a single model and part of the et of three she came in on ebay all the time. Usually overpriced in my opinion, but I've never considered her any rarer than the rest of them. Others here have listed her as rare too, so I'm starting to wonder.


Didn't see this answered upthread (apologies if it has been).

IIRC the story of the female Catachan grenade launcher mini is that she was a limited edition exclusive in the UK and Europe, but had a general blister-pack release in the US.

North American GW had its own metal casting facilities--maybe still does?--and would occasionally make something more widely available there than elsewhere.

Speaking of OOP metals, here's another cross-the-pond difference: GW stopped using lead in its minis in the US around 1993, but didn't go lead-free in the UK till about 1997-8. Which means you can get 'white metal' / pewter minis for 2nd ed 40K, old school Epic Space Marine, original Warhammer Quest and so on if it comes from the US, or lead minis of same from the UK for the same period. Lead is softer and easier to convert, but then again may melt your brain should you (or a small child) eat it. Take your pick.


As I don't do a lot of converting, I'll keep my brain. Thanks.

Either way, very interesting information on both the models and the metals.

Bet that sucked for scalpers when they found out the pile of "LE" female grenadiers they'd hoarded for resale was actually being officially mass produced on the other side.


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I just wanna say, I love this thread! It's fun to share and see rare models, learn about new ones, etc.

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After reading though It seems I have more uncommon/rare models then I thought. I have in my collection of older/rarer minis...

RT Female Trooper (Female Trpr Bush)
RT Male Trooper (Trpr Brock)
Full set of Last Chancers
Full set of Tanith (+1 additional female model)
20 Tallarn Rough Riders
Female Catachan Grenade launcher
Female Commissar
Cadian Guardsmen at attention (2 packs, 1 still unopened)
Metal Catachan and Tallarn Plasma and Melta special weapons


I know there are a few more, but I'm at work and I'm blanking for now

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I think we need to consider that some of us are using a different definition of 'rare'.

Some consider the original plastic Guard 'rare'. That's only true insofar as their current 2021 availability. They were never actually rare though when they were a normal product you could find on GW store shelves.

Compare that to the recent Catachan Colonel, which was never a general release, and is exceptionally hard to get.


And as far as regional rarity goes, the female Commissar is similar to the Catachan Grenade Launcher. In some places it wasn't available, or was an event model, but in others you could just order it. I bought it from the UK webstore when they were still doing bits. It wasn't rare there for some reason.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I think we need to consider that some of us are using a different definition of 'rare'.

Some consider the original plastic Guard 'rare'. That's only true insofar as their current 2021 availability. They were never actually rare though when they were a normal product you could find on GW store shelves.

Compare that to the recent Catachan Colonel, which was never a general release, and is exceptionally hard to get.


And as far as regional rarity goes, the female Commissar is similar to the Catachan Grenade Launcher. In some places it wasn't available, or was an event model, but in others you could just order it. I bought it from the UK webstore when they were still doing bits. It wasn't rare there for some reason.


Indeed. I've heard of the Female Commissar described as a pseudo-LE model or a "fake rare" and other similar names. It seems to have have been a regular thing with old GW that a model would be released as a LE at an event, then be added to the catalogue some time later.


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 Salted Diamond wrote:
After reading though It seems I have more uncommon/rare models then I thought. I have in my collection of older/rarer minis...

RT Female Trooper (Female Trpr Bush)
RT Male Trooper (Trpr Brock)
Full set of Last Chancers
Full set of Tanith (+1 additional female model)
20 Tallarn Rough Riders
Female Catachan Grenade launcher
Female Commissar
Cadian Guardsmen at attention (2 packs, 1 still unopened)
Metal Catachan and Tallarn Plasma and Melta special weapons


I know there are a few more, but I'm at work and I'm blanking for now


I actually have a number of the old metal RT IG, but looking up which ones you have has made me curious about which printing mine are from.


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According to SoL Collectors Catalogue I have:

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Imperial Army - Up to the 1988 Catalogue:
2x Imperial Heavy Trooper (RT Flyer Part One Mercenaries: Fast-star John)
1x Trpr Cottrell (WD 98: Trpr Turner)
2x Female Trpr Vaskez (WD 98: Female Trpr Rutherford)
1x Comm Officer Schmidt
1x Reconaissance Trpr Kai (has added packs)
1x Scout Trpr Pank
1x Medic Pointer
2x Trpr Rothery
1x Trpr Kelly
1x Capt. Webb (Possible conversion with left hand)
1x Trpr Lee
2x Trpr Langton
1x Trpr Laurel (Power sword converted to chainsword)
1x Field Officer Niven (Laspistol converted to chainsword)
1x Trpr Bruce
1x Trpr Lifeson
2x Lt. Calvert (One has a power sword added onto the left hand, the other shows signs of having had something added as well, but it is gone now)
1x Assault Trpr Hardy
1x Army Medic 02
1x Army Medic 09
1x Gunner 400303 with Lascannon

Imperial Guard - 1988 to 1994:
1x 4010-01 Commissar
1x 4010-02 Commissar
1x 4010-03 Commissar
1x 4010-16 Grenade Launcher
2x 072117/3 Commissar (One with bolt pistol and power sword, one with no weapons)
1x 072117/3 Commissar (with laspistol)




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Not that I know which printing the ones I actually own are from since all the tabs were removed by a previous owner.

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I've seen one of those pre-forge world baneblades, and even the original forge world baneblades. The original forge world hydra. The old leman russ and chimera turret emplacements. The list goes on.

I lived in a small mining town, where most of the blokes I know make a killing at the mines and have too much money to know what to do with. So they don't care if they spend literally thousands on miniatures.
   
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Jarms48 wrote:
I've seen one of those pre-forge world baneblades, and even the original forge world baneblades. The original forge world hydra. The old leman russ and chimera turret emplacements. The list goes on.

I lived in a small mining town, where most of the blokes I know make a killing at the mines and have too much money to know what to do with. So they don't care if they spend literally thousands on miniatures.


Wow, didn't know being a miner was so lucrative!
   
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Jarms48 wrote:
I've seen one of those pre-forge world baneblades, and even the original forge world baneblades. The original forge world hydra. The old leman russ and chimera turret emplacements. The list goes on.
Again, I'm not sure that most of that classifies as 'rare'. Perhaps the Armorcast Baneblade, sure - I don't know how many of those things made it into the world - but the rest of what you described are just regular FW products that are no longer in production. Their rarity only stems from time passed, not because they were ever actually rare.

I mean, aside from the Armorcast Baneblade and FW's original Hydra model, I have everything in that list you just described. They were not rare when I purchased them.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Jarms48 wrote:
I've seen one of those pre-forge world baneblades, and even the original forge world baneblades. The original forge world hydra. The old leman russ and chimera turret emplacements. The list goes on.
Again, I'm not sure that most of that classifies as 'rare'. Perhaps the Armorcast Baneblade, sure - I don't know how many of those things made it into the world - but the rest of what you described are just regular FW products that are no longer in production. Their rarity only stems from time passed, not because they were ever actually rare.

I mean, aside from the Armorcast Baneblade and FW's original Hydra model, I have everything in that list you just described. They were not rare when I purchased them.


Plenty of Armorcast out there in the world. At least here in the USA. All you had to do was order them from Armorcast. And they went to all the gaming conventions as vendors.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Jarms48 wrote:
I've seen one of those pre-forge world baneblades, and even the original forge world baneblades. The original forge world hydra. The old leman russ and chimera turret emplacements. The list goes on.
Again, I'm not sure that most of that classifies as 'rare'. Perhaps the Armorcast Baneblade, sure - I don't know how many of those things made it into the world - but the rest of what you described are just regular FW products that are no longer in production. Their rarity only stems from time passed, not because they were ever actually rare.

I mean, aside from the Armorcast Baneblade and FW's original Hydra model, I have everything in that list you just described. They were not rare when I purchased them.


Well, time does make many things rare. Old coins that were once literally pocket change are now considered rare/valuable now. Same reason applies to models that were once (relatively) easy to get but are now considered rare.

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But that's my point. When someone asks what the rarest Guard model is, I don't consider something rare because it's 20 years later and it's not made anymore. I consider the things that were rare even when they first came out.

It's hard to get OG plastic Guard now, because they are rare due to time, not because they were produced as a limited run in very small numbers at the time of release.

The Cadian standard bearer from the army box, that only came in that army box, and was never available anywhere outside of that army box. That's what I'd consider a 'rare' mini.

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I have 3 FW Hydras and would not consider them rare.

I do need more. I'm developing a Crusade force based on an Air Defense regiment and would like to make all the hydras match - though even if the plastic ones were close-topped I'd say "close enough."

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I am envious. I always liked the FW Hydra.

Of course I ended up getting 3 FW Manticores, so who am I to complain?

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