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Made in ca
Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman





This is a amazing bait post. Doesnt even have the models and complains about having to take 1 less model he doesnt even actually own lol.
   
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 Carl wrote:
This is a amazing bait post. Doesnt even have the models and complains about having to take 1 less model he doesnt even actually own lol.

Mind blowing
and yet so easy to understand!
/s

xD

I'm not even mad anymore. The feces being thrown in my general direction is just amusing.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Springfield, VA

Emperor's Guardsman wrote:
Not having been a player/painter since 4th and having a little read through stuff like this really doesn't make me want to get back playing. If 40k has become a constant meta chase then I don't blame you for not wanting to play it anymore.

I'm coming back to it as I miss the painting and modeling aspect. Maybe one day I'll get a game going but until then I'll be working on my many Guard units that I never finished. I'll buy something shiny and new if it looks cool. There's more to 40k than just the games!


My friends and I just play 4th together.
   
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Biloxi, MS USA

 _SeeD_ wrote:
When you alter the CORE RULES midway through an edition,


When you say this like this is the first time they've done this rather than doing this in every edition regularly over a 25+ year period, it makes it hard to take your "10 year commitment" as a serious time frame.

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 _SeeD_ wrote:
Hecaton wrote:
Why the hell are you conplaining here? Nobody here had anything to do with this. Go bother GW.

I'm strictly reacting to criticism at this point.


Sounds like you are just looking to get mad at people who had nothing to do with it.
   
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord




Emperor's Guardsman wrote:
Not having been a player/painter since 4th and having a little read through stuff like this really doesn't make me want to get back playing. If 40k has become a constant meta chase then I don't blame you for not wanting to play it anymore.

I'm coming back to it as I miss the painting and modeling aspect. Maybe one day I'll get a game going but until then I'll be working on my many Guard units that I never finished. I'll buy something shiny and new if it looks cool. There's more to 40k than just the games!


40k as a whole has never been better for casual players in a group, crusade is fantastic for narrative or casual gaming and is readily supported.

The meta chasing is a symptom of the players mentality more than the state of the game. The vocal boards etc are heavily focused on competitive play and pushing the game into an esport type situation. I'd wager 90% of people will happily throw down a game with a fair list against your guard collection regardless of it's content.

Edit: which again shows why this thread is an interesting viewpoint, as it leans so hard into the meta chasing mindset that "fun" or "casual" need not apply.

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Made in ca
Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman





 _SeeD_ wrote:
 Carl wrote:
This is a amazing bait post. Doesnt even have the models and complains about having to take 1 less model he doesnt even actually own lol.

Mind blowing
and yet so easy to understand!
/s

xD

I'm not even mad anymore. The feces being thrown in my general direction is just amusing.


I’m not even throwing “feces” I was being serious. I can’t help but take that as a joke and I don’t mean it to be offensive. But your complaint is about the ruining of your “10 year passion” and about how you can’t play the army to your satisfaction, which doesn’t even make sense.

Firstly, this rule affects many factions and armies, this isn’t some personal attack on you and your play style. You said you have repeatedly tweaked your list to be what you want. Why would 1 more tweak be that big of a deal? So you can only take 4 instead of 5 of one unit. Do you maybe think that with CA/new codexes on the horizon that some new cool units/compositions could come around that you may enjoy?

That being said. Like 99.9% of the people who play this game it’s a hobby and a fun escape for you. Not your job and not some massive financial investment, if you aren’t having fun or won’t be, I’m sorry to hear that. But there is no reason to stick around and do something you won’t enjoy.
   
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Charlotte, NC

I had a whole post about this, but I suspect that this guy is just a troll. Folks ignore this guy, and report him.

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Regular Dakkanaut





TinyLegions wrote:
 _SeeD_ wrote:
 RaptorusRex wrote:
Ok, look at it this way. I used to play TTS 40k on a regular basis, because I hadn't discovered a good FLGS. I was even in the same Discord you were, until I noticed they were unironically posting Stone Toss. That and BCB's legendary rules takes were the last straw.

TTS is not the same as the holistic IRL 40k experience. IRL, only a minority of people play 40k without painting their minis, assembling them, etc. Those things are integral parts of the hobby that you won't get just playing on TTS. Do you see what I mean?

Yea I get it. TTS is not the point of emphasis here though. I want to play IRL and TTS is my only claim to gameplay exp. People would take me even less seriously if I had none.


Not sure about the others, but I take you less seriously by the virtue that all that you did was play TTS online for ten years than if you never played the game.


Dude /facepalm. No.
I JUST started playing any games within the past 6 months, including TTS. I've been an amateur student of the game for about 10 years though, you know, just pretending and gak.
I know that the image you all have of me is an ugly one, but I'm not actually trying to hurt any of you, and no I'm not a rager, jfc.



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TinyLegions wrote:
I had a whole post about this, but I suspect that this guy is just a troll. Folks ignore this guy, and report him.

I'm not. And there is this really cool way of ignoring people. Just stop watching.
Every nasty thing I've said here has been a response to equally nasty things.

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Dudeface wrote:
Emperor's Guardsman wrote:
Not having been a player/painter since 4th and having a little read through stuff like this really doesn't make me want to get back playing. If 40k has become a constant meta chase then I don't blame you for not wanting to play it anymore.

I'm coming back to it as I miss the painting and modeling aspect. Maybe one day I'll get a game going but until then I'll be working on my many Guard units that I never finished. I'll buy something shiny and new if it looks cool. There's more to 40k than just the games!


40k as a whole has never been better for casual players in a group, crusade is fantastic for narrative or casual gaming and is readily supported.

The meta chasing is a symptom of the players mentality more than the state of the game. The vocal boards etc are heavily focused on competitive play and pushing the game into an esport type situation. I'd wager 90% of people will happily throw down a game with a fair list against your guard collection regardless of it's content.

Edit: which again shows why this thread is an interesting viewpoint, as it leans so hard into the meta chasing mindset that "fun" or "casual" need not apply.


Cheers, that puts a really interesting perspective on the whole thing. A journey round these forums over the last few days had really soured my idea of what 40k had become so it's quite refreshing to hear that fun play does still exist. Although, the thought of trying to take down multi would Space Marines with lasguns does slightly terrify me. They were always hard nuts to crack with just one! But from the sounds of it they're no longer GW's unbeatable favourites.
   
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Fresh-Faced New User




OP clearly isn't discussing in good faith. Pretty much all of OP's responses are either 'no it's not' with no further explanations or 'why are you attacking me' when no attacks are made; deflections. OP really hasn't responded to many of the positive, supportive posts here.

I think we've been served a nothing burger.
   
Made in nl
Longtime Dakkanaut





Emperor's Guardsman wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
Emperor's Guardsman wrote:
Not having been a player/painter since 4th and having a little read through stuff like this really doesn't make me want to get back playing. If 40k has become a constant meta chase then I don't blame you for not wanting to play it anymore.

I'm coming back to it as I miss the painting and modeling aspect. Maybe one day I'll get a game going but until then I'll be working on my many Guard units that I never finished. I'll buy something shiny and new if it looks cool. There's more to 40k than just the games!


40k as a whole has never been better for casual players in a group, crusade is fantastic for narrative or casual gaming and is readily supported.

The meta chasing is a symptom of the players mentality more than the state of the game. The vocal boards etc are heavily focused on competitive play and pushing the game into an esport type situation. I'd wager 90% of people will happily throw down a game with a fair list against your guard collection regardless of it's content.

Edit: which again shows why this thread is an interesting viewpoint, as it leans so hard into the meta chasing mindset that "fun" or "casual" need not apply.


Cheers, that puts a really interesting perspective on the whole thing. A journey round these forums over the last few days had really soured my idea of what 40k had become so it's quite refreshing to hear that fun play does still exist. Although, the thought of trying to take down multi would Space Marines with lasguns does slightly terrify me. They were always hard nuts to crack with just one! But from the sounds of it they're no longer GW's unbeatable favourites.
The thing is that forums attract a certain type of people. The guy having fun at their local club just playing the game while having a laugh and drinking a beer who play for the enjoyment of playing have no need to come to internet forums to talk about strategy, lists and how GW's latest changes impact the 'meta', they just play the game.

So online discussion tends to revolve entirely around competitive play and that often has a different mindset.

(and that is not to say competitive players are not fun to play against, you just need one that understands if he is playing a major tournament finals or a fun game with friends.
   
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Emperor's Guardsman wrote:

Cheers, that puts a really interesting perspective on the whole thing. A journey round these forums over the last few days had really soured my idea of what 40k had become so it's quite refreshing to hear that fun play does still exist. Although, the thought of trying to take down multi would Space Marines with lasguns does slightly terrify me. They were always hard nuts to crack with just one! But from the sounds of it they're no longer GW's unbeatable favourites.


Hes absolutely right. Its been years since I have done a tourney, but right now me and my friends are doing a 500 point crusade that will escalate to 2k over the next couple months. Its a absolute blast. While there are definitely representations of some of the "top tier" armies we adjust based on balance as needed and no one feels pressured to take tailored/cheese/WAAC lists.

Like any hobby or leisure activity, find a good group and the game is a absolute pleasure to play. The forums will always gravitate to a more extreme/whiny/competitive outlook. And while there are all sorts of informational posts there is a lot of negativity which really doesnt manifest in person. The "knock the board over when losing" types or the people who cant help but bring some GT winning copy pasted list to friendly play get quickly ostracized. Its why they end up being a very loud minority on boards/reddit/etc. Even if you are just showing up for the first time the average player is usually kind and helpful.

as for guard playability, we really arent in the "best place" but if you are playing for fun you can have a absolute blast and still win a fair amount. When some meta chaser wants to play just politely decline if thats not what you are looking to get out of the game.
   
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TreeSparr wrote:
OP clearly isn't discussing in good faith. Pretty much all of OP's responses are either 'no it's not' with no further explanations or 'why are you attacking me' when no attacks are made; deflections. OP really hasn't responded to many of the positive, supportive posts here.

I think we've been served a nothing burger.


Feelsbad not sure what I was thinking. Look on the bright side though - you won't be hearing from me for a while.
   
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra






Emperor's Guardsman wrote:

Cheers, that puts a really interesting perspective on the whole thing. A journey round these forums over the last few days had really soured my idea of what 40k had become so it's quite refreshing to hear that fun play does still exist. Although, the thought of trying to take down multi would Space Marines with lasguns does slightly terrify me. They were always hard nuts to crack with just one! But from the sounds of it they're no longer GW's unbeatable favourites.

You'll struggle to find discussion of casual or narrative play on this forum or indeed any forum. It's very difficult to discuss because so much of it comes down to "hey cool that's cool". People can't rant and rave for 57 pages about balance, meta, or whatever else because generally its not a massive concern and Dakka does love its rants and raves.
That being said keep an eye out for posts by PenitentJake, they often post about their narrative exploits.

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 _SeeD_ wrote:
TreeSparr wrote:
OP clearly isn't discussing in good faith. Pretty much all of OP's responses are either 'no it's not' with no further explanations or 'why are you attacking me' when no attacks are made; deflections. OP really hasn't responded to many of the positive, supportive posts here.

I think we've been served a nothing burger.


Feelsbad not sure what I was thinking. Look on the bright side though - you won't be hearing from me for a while.


You still havent responded to anyone who replied to you with any helpful suggestions or observations though.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





Biloxi, MS USA

 Gert wrote:
Emperor's Guardsman wrote:

Cheers, that puts a really interesting perspective on the whole thing. A journey round these forums over the last few days had really soured my idea of what 40k had become so it's quite refreshing to hear that fun play does still exist. Although, the thought of trying to take down multi would Space Marines with lasguns does slightly terrify me. They were always hard nuts to crack with just one! But from the sounds of it they're no longer GW's unbeatable favourites.

You'll struggle to find discussion of casual or narrative play on this forum or indeed any forum. It's very difficult to discuss because so much of it comes down to "hey cool that's cool". People can't rant and rave for 57 pages about balance, meta, or whatever else because generally its not a massive concern and Dakka does love its rants and raves.


This. Casual players are discussing stuff with their play groups. Forum users are already a fairly niche group of 40K players(most people I've played with over the past 20 years don't interact with forums of any sort), Dakka even more so, especially with the reputation Dakka has gotten on other boards over the years.

You know you're really doing something when you can make strangers hate you over the Internet. - Mauleed
Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
Hallowed is the All Pie
The Before Times: A Place That Celebrates The World That Was 
   
Made in ca
Focused Fire Warrior




Canada

That's fine. Bye.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





Biloxi, MS USA

 Carl wrote:
 _SeeD_ wrote:
TreeSparr wrote:
OP clearly isn't discussing in good faith. Pretty much all of OP's responses are either 'no it's not' with no further explanations or 'why are you attacking me' when no attacks are made; deflections. OP really hasn't responded to many of the positive, supportive posts here.

I think we've been served a nothing burger.


Feelsbad not sure what I was thinking. Look on the bright side though - you won't be hearing from me for a while.


You still havent responded to anyone who replied to you with any helpful suggestions or observations though.


Why would they? This entire thread is the online equivalent of that person who creates problems at a social gathering and keeps loudly proclaiming that they're leaving and never coming back for an hour.

You know you're really doing something when you can make strangers hate you over the Internet. - Mauleed
Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
Hallowed is the All Pie
The Before Times: A Place That Celebrates The World That Was 
   
Made in gb
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"No, I choose not to partake, and they need to know about it."

Sorry, but no, they don't. If I understand you correctly, you've been "around" for 10 years, and you've spent (at current prices) $108 on 2 packs of GK Terminators (total, all in the last 6 months), and you seem not to have played against real humans across a real table with real miniatures?

You can't quit something you never actually started.
   
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 Carl wrote:
 _SeeD_ wrote:
TreeSparr wrote:
OP clearly isn't discussing in good faith. Pretty much all of OP's responses are either 'no it's not' with no further explanations or 'why are you attacking me' when no attacks are made; deflections. OP really hasn't responded to many of the positive, supportive posts here.

I think we've been served a nothing burger.


Feelsbad not sure what I was thinking. Look on the bright side though - you won't be hearing from me for a while.


You still havent responded to anyone who replied to you with any helpful suggestions or observations though.

hooooly gak I just want to let go.
I don't respond to people who want to help when I don't have the heart to tell them why they're wrong. I've already thought about most of these things. Some posts confirming that maybe I shouldn't be playing and that I need a break have been met with comfort, from me. You just weren't looking for them.
   
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Biloxi, MS USA

 _SeeD_ wrote:

hooooly gak I just want to let go.


Then stop saying it and do it. Stop responding, delete your account, and actually let go.

You know you're really doing something when you can make strangers hate you over the Internet. - Mauleed
Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
Hallowed is the All Pie
The Before Times: A Place That Celebrates The World That Was 
   
Made in us
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 Platuan4th wrote:
 _SeeD_ wrote:

hooooly gak I just want to let go.


Then stop saying it and do it. Stop responding, delete your account, and actually let go.

Yea, but not the delete part.
   
 
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