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Not to mention GW doesn't even properly update the friggin' FW book they sold us this edition.

 vipoid wrote:

Or, you know, they could just not remove those options from the codex in the first place.

Nooooooo current model noooooooo rules. Conversions are not what we can sell!


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 Daedalus81 wrote:
You're talking about a faction that can take all T8 tanks for their army. Now with AoC and 2+ saves...I'm not entirely sure that giving no reroll wounds would be particularly balanced. "But but marines" - their vehicle choices have been worse in general than IG's and I don't see Salamanders running lots of tanks with any sort of synergy.

Also a faction whose special order and fluff is Chimera.

The_Real_Chris wrote:


Nooooooo current model noooooooo rules. Conversions are not what we can sell!

Conversions at least may require buying other official kits... for example I saw plenty of warbosses in megarmour converted from the orruk AoS boss when the warboss in megarmour didn't have an official model, but keeping models/options that were part of the catalogue once and now they're OOP is even worse for GW as there might be nothing they sell to cover those options even through conversions.

Take assault cannons on razorbacks, no one is going to buy two kits just to get a single assault cannon out of each of those and be able to convert ONE of their razorbacks with the twin assault cannon option. I made mine (6 cannons for 3 tanks) since I got the bitz for a really ridicolous price, from someone that had lots of dreads and didn't need the ass cannons. FW official model I think it's long gone. So there's no way GW can make money out of conversions to get razorbacks with assault cannons.

If only they sold the upgrade sprue that had the Assault Cannon on it seperately like they used to...

You get a Razorback-compatible TL-Donkey Cannon from the Crusader kit.

The_Real_Chris wrote:

 vipoid wrote:

Or, you know, they could just not remove those options from the codex in the first place.

Nooooooo current model noooooooo rules. Conversions are not what we can sell!

Apart from, you know, the conversions that they literally do sell. Like the Dreadknight Grand Master, or whatever it was called. The "official model" was literally a kitbash, but it was still allowed to exist in the rules.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You get a Razorback-compatible TL-Donkey Cannon from the Crusader kit.

Yep, but then you won't have a complete Crusader model. And that thing is very hard to get separately, let alone multiples of it.

It's much safer to magnetize the turret from the actual razorback kit with both standard options (heavy bolter and lascannon) and magnetize the assault cannons later when you have/find some spared bitz, mostly from dreads or terminators kits. It requires sawing off the barrels of the guns but at least it gives you "always legal" models.

 Dysartes wrote:

 alextroy wrote:
It is GW's solution

It is certainly better than them saying models are no longer supported for play in any way. They have already made it clear they are not necessarily going to carry something forward just because it was at one point a legal option/model/unit.

It would be a better solution if they were prepared to update the files when things get removed - it is two and a half years since anything was added to the non-FW Legends files, and a year and a half for the FW file, despite a number of units having disappeared from books in the meantime.

I'm certain that my Red Gobbo on squig is more recent than 2.5 years ago.

I'm fairly sure that the only reason why they put them there is because it's the worst possible way to publish those ork rules without not publishing them.

Imperium promotional or limited gak simply gets printed into books.

ccs wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 alextroy wrote:
It is GW's solution

It is certainly better than them saying models are no longer supported for play in any way. They have already made it clear they are not necessarily going to carry something forward just because it was at one point a legal option/model/unit.

It would be a better solution if they were prepared to update the files when things get removed - it is two and a half years since anything was added to the non-FW Legends files, and a year and a half for the FW file, despite a number of units having disappeared from books in the meantime.

I'm certain that my Red Gobbo on squig is more recent than 2.5 years ago.

He may well be - but he isn't in the Ork Legends PDF, as you can see if you check them here.

In fact, I just checked my notes from when I emailed the 40k FAQ email address a few months back, and the Red Gobbo on Bounca was one of the models I'd listed as missing from the Legends PDFs...