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More fool them if they take that attitude. At this point, you and Stahly are really the only "paint reviewers" who are trustworthy to call it like it is.

Squidmar also did a good job with his "tournament", breaking down aspects of paint in a more granular manner, but I didn't see anything from him on SP reactivation, and then you've got the masses who ignored it, didn't test them fully enough or are outright apologists for it via "it's a feature, not a bug".

Not exactly people I'd trust when they review a paint range...


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 BlackoCatto wrote:
I always found most GW centric podcasts and channels to be essentially shills for the most part, and or just plain wrong about most things what certain communities want (also boring because I'd rather see a non GW model every once in awhile). Listing to that particular episode just felt like some sort of weird jealousy going on. Jilted stans or something.

Most of the YTers I see these days in that category are essentially using their paint videos to advertise whatever Patreon or Kickstarter is their sponsor of the day these days. Spiky Bitz is the epitome of the whole "bitter ex" thing in his (one-sided) relationship to GW so I skip his content entirely. GW has a lot of flaws, but it gets tiresome when people make hating GW the central point of their online personality (often while at the same time spending literally thousands of currencies on GW stuff). There's a fair few posters on here who make that their gimmick and it's as tiresome as the White Knight GW-can-do-no-wrong Stans. I don't have time for gaming podcasts, though - I already listen to too many hours of wrestling stuff that takes up my podcast time.

There are a few YT-ers who still put out videos I enjoy, but I avoid the ones who make GW-hating or GW-stanning (is that a word, now?) their major gimmick.

I have been a big defender of AP for while. There are a few bad paints in there, like their reds.
But I'm adoring their air range, their matte white air is great.
I'm loving colored Metallica.
And while I still use contrast more, I don't hate speed paints and a few find their way in from time to time

So finally Vallejo have announced the new ranges officially with a new web too:

http://www.vallejoacrylics.com/en/home/

WOW!

Vallejos new game colour too? Is it a full revamp? new formulas? do they match old ones colourwise or completely new?
As much as I appreciate the one trick pony of contrasts or express for me the bread and butter of painting is Vallejo model colour or game colour.

Tell us more things Sir Hidalgo. Please

I like Game Colour as they are, so hopefully the revamp doesn't make them worse or change the colours.

Transparent bottles sound nice though.

 Azazelx wrote:
More fool them if they take that attitude. At this point, you and Stahly are really the only "paint reviewers" who are trustworthy to call it like it is.

Squidmar also did a good job with his "tournament", breaking down aspects of paint in a more granular manner, but I didn't see anything from him on SP reactivation, and then you've got the masses who ignored it, didn't test them fully enough or are outright apologists for it via "it's a feature, not a bug".

Not exactly people I'd trust when they review a paint range...


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 BlackoCatto wrote:
I always found most GW centric podcasts and channels to be essentially shills for the most part, and or just plain wrong about most things what certain communities want (also boring because I'd rather see a non GW model every once in awhile). Listing to that particular episode just felt like some sort of weird jealousy going on. Jilted stans or something.

Most of the YTers I see these days in that category are essentially using their paint videos to advertise whatever Patreon or Kickstarter is their sponsor of the day these days. Spiky Bitz is the epitome of the whole "bitter ex" thing in his (one-sided) relationship to GW so I skip his content entirely. GW has a lot of flaws, but it gets tiresome when people make hating GW the central point of their online personality (often while at the same time spending literally thousands of currencies on GW stuff). There's a fair few posters on here who make that their gimmick and it's as tiresome as the White Knight GW-can-do-no-wrong Stans. I don't have time for gaming podcasts, though - I already listen to too many hours of wrestling stuff that takes up my podcast time.

There are a few YT-ers who still put out videos I enjoy, but I avoid the ones who make GW-hating or GW-stanning (is that a word, now?) their major gimmick.

Thanks, man, appreciate it. I‘m just trying to be authentic. Being positive, but still pointing out all the pros and cons and hopefully avoiding any bias.

When we need to paint multiple figures in a fast way, Xpress Color is the ideal choice, these matt colors are specifically formulated to paint miniatures in a fast and easy way.

The main characteristics are its excellent capillarity that allows the color to flow easily over the miniature surface, settling on all the reliefs and more intensely in the crevices of the figure, creating a contrast effect with a single layer of paint.

It’s recommended to apply Xpress Color on a white or grey primed or painted surface. The color will create light areas on the reliefs, saturated mid-tones and intense shadows in the crevices of the figure.

Like all our products, they are very versatile and can be applied over any color in the range to create soft shading and contouring effects, to create glazes or filters and to blend transitions between color tones.

Xpress Color can be mixed together, or can be diluted with Xpress Medium to modify or create new shades.

It's also nice to see more Game Color paints.

 NAVARRO wrote:
WOW!

Vallejos new game colour too? Is it a full revamp? new formulas? do they match old ones colourwise or completely new?
As much as I appreciate the one trick pony of contrasts or express for me the bread and butter of painting is Vallejo model colour or game colour.

Tell us more things Sir Hidalgo. Please

Completely new formulation, full revamp of the line as far as I know but most colours should be the same.

The new formulation makes them matter and they have way better coverage.

There will be new inks, new washes and new fluorescent colours too

Very nice.

BTW JH, will you ever do any vids with something like historicals or do more non GW products?

 JHMiniatures wrote:

Completely new formulation, full revamp of the line as far as I know but most colours should be the same.

The new formulation makes them matter and they have way better coverage.

There will be new inks, new washes and new fluorescent colours too

Model Colour staying the same?

 BlackoCatto wrote:
Very nice.

BTW JH, will you ever do any vids with something like historicals or do more non GW products?

Probably never, although I'm painting a bust right now using contrast for the channel


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 Azazelx wrote:

 JHMiniatures wrote:

Completely new formulation, full revamp of the line as far as I know but most colours should be the same.

The new formulation makes them matter and they have way better coverage.

There will be new inks, new washes and new fluorescent colours too

Model Colour staying the same?

Yes, although let me tell you some colours could do with an update

Unfortunate but understandable.

 JHMiniatures wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
WOW!

Vallejos new game colour too? Is it a full revamp? new formulas? do they match old ones colourwise or completely new?
As much as I appreciate the one trick pony of contrasts or express for me the bread and butter of painting is Vallejo model colour or game colour.

Tell us more things Sir Hidalgo. Please

Completely new formulation, full revamp of the line as far as I know but most colours should be the same.

The new formulation makes them matter and they have way better coverage.

There will be new inks, new washes and new fluorescent colours too

That's great news. Seems like I need to keep an eye for another 80 new VGC paints then.
I hope they keep the prices manageable as aways and that the new pots are still high quality.

 NAVARRO wrote:

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 JHMiniatures wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
WOW!

Vallejos new game colour too? Is it a full revamp? new formulas? do they match old ones colourwise or completely new?
As much as I appreciate the one trick pony of contrasts or express for me the bread and butter of painting is Vallejo model colour or game colour.

Tell us more things Sir Hidalgo. Please

Completely new formulation, full revamp of the line as far as I know but most colours should be the same.

The new formulation makes them matter and they have way better coverage.

There will be new inks, new washes and new fluorescent colours too

That's great news. Seems like I need to keep an eye for another 80 new VGC paints then.
I hope they keep the prices manageable as aways and that the new pots are still high quality.

http://www.vallejoacrylics.com/en/home/

Hit the book in the upper right corner. It will give you a chart of all of the Xpress Color paints along with the reformulated Game Color paints including the Metallics, Inks, Fluorescents, Washes, Special FX and Auxiliary Products.

Quick question: is the Vallejo Game Air still going to exist or not?
I only see Game Color paints and a few variants (Metallic, Ink, Wash, Special FX, Fluo) on their new website.

 Aenar wrote:
Quick question: is the Vallejo Game Air still going to exist or not?
I only see Game Color paints and a few variants (Metallic, Ink, Wash, Special FX, Fluo) on their new website.

That new website is only for their updated Game Color and Xpress Color paints. The website for everything else is at https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/

Note that it does look like they've discontinued the 'Heavy' Game Color paints, but those were just rebranded Model Color paints so it's not really a big deal.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Aenar wrote:
Quick question: is the Vallejo Game Air still going to exist or not?
I only see Game Color paints and a few variants (Metallic, Ink, Wash, Special FX, Fluo) on their new website.

That new website is only for their updated Game Color and Xpress Color paints. The website for everything else is at https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/

Note that it does look like they've discontinued the 'Heavy' Game Color paints, but those were just rebranded Model Color paints so it's not really a big deal.

Oh I know that, the "old" website shows them. I am wondering whether they will continue selling the old Game Air range as well or not.
I would have to stockpile a few bottles in that case

As I mentioned the NEW website is for the NEW paints. The Game Color paints not being there is no indication one way or the other of them being discontinued.

Are they supposed to look that drab? One of the things I liked about the game color line was their more vibrant hues. Also looks like there's no equivalent for Livery Green, a staple of glowy stuff for me.

After seeing the full range, on the website, I imagine that they'll compliment my scale75 instant colours quite nicely.
(And I'm especially impressed with the way they seem to layer well.)

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
Are they supposed to look that drab? One of the things I liked about the game color line was their more vibrant hues.

I never trust color charts on the internet beyond giving me a vague idea of what the color might (and I emphasize might) look like...

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
Also looks like there's no equivalent for Livery Green, a staple of glowy stuff for me.

Bile Green looks pretty close, or you could mix Fluorescent Yellow and Fluorescent Green for a brighter version.

 Ghaz wrote:

Note that it does look like they've discontinued the 'Heavy' Game Color paints, but those were just rebranded Model Color paints so it's not really a big deal.

Is there a chart for which Model Colors are the Heavy Colors? Heavy Warm Grey and Heavy Cold Grey are staples for me.

What abo I extra opaque?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
What abo I extra opaque?

The aforementioned ‘Heavy’ Game Color paints are the Extra Opaques (i.e. all of their names start with the word ‘Heavy’).

 Psychopomp wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Note that it does look like they've discontinued the 'Heavy' Game Color paints, but those were just rebranded Model Color paints so it's not really a big deal.

Is there a chart for which Model Colors are the Heavy Colors? Heavy Warm Grey and Heavy Cold Grey are staples for me.

https://www.everythingairbrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Vallejo-Equivalent-Colors-1.pdf

@stahly,

I assume you are going to do your famous swatch samples on the Xpress colors. Do you think you will get samples before the planned release in November?

 Ghaz wrote:

https://www.everythingairbrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Vallejo-Equivalent-Colors-1.pdf

Thank you! Much appreciated.

 silverdragon wrote:
@stahly,

I assume you are going to do your famous swatch samples on the Xpress colors. Do you think you will get samples before the planned release in November?

I'm not Stahly, but Vallejo asked me for a list of people to send samples to. Stahly is number 1 on that list.

I cannot promise anything, but I will try to make sure they do send him a set pre-release

I just noticed the following on the Acrylicos Vallejo Facebook page (emphasis added):

We are not aware of Vallejo prices around the world, as inland taxes, exchange currency is out of our control. We are always very competitive when compared to other brands so new Game Color prices will not differ from current available prices, and we also grant superb quality products because you deserved!

Still no news on the Xpress Colors prices. There is also a paint set scheduled for January 2023.

A brief review of the Xpress Color paints that were picked up at Spiel 2022. Note that the review is in German.

That looks really good.