Arks of Omen - what we know so far

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**a_typical_hero**

Put him into stasis for example, or shoot him into the vast emptiness of space (assuming he doesn't need air anymore as a demon). A Tesseract pokeball might do the trick as well.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Or a specific banishment ritual. Destroying his physical form isn’t what it previously was. But if you give him a ritual kicking? Who truly knows at this stage.

**Tsagualsa**

tneva82 wrote:
Segersgia wrote:
I really think that there are interesting ways of having Angron's immortality create an interesting narrative.

If factions realise that killing him isn't an option anymore, they might look for ways that neutralize hime without banishing him.

Like how? Talk to him and send flowers & chocolate?-)

By the most imperial of sanctions: trapping him in constant paperwork.

On a more serious note: Stasis fields or shunting him into one of the readily available weird parallel/pocket dimensions might work. Tesseract vaults, a bubble in the Webway, stuff like that. Had to be somewhere where the Dark Gods can't easily reach, and ideally where he can't just kill himself and reappear elsewhere.

**Dysartes**

I wonder what would happen if you were to lure him into an area, trigger a similar effect as the Pariah Nexus (though on a smaller scale), then "nuke" Angry Ron from orbit until there's nothing left of his body...

**Irbis**

Iracundus wrote:
Yes that last bit is the key point. It doesn't show Angron to be strong, skilled, or brave if he has infinite respawning. Throw him on Terra and he would be able to chop his way to the Emperor through sheer attrition. An unstoppable antagonist that resurrects in seconds makes it futile for any other character in the background to do anything. That doesn't allow for many interesting stories for other characters.

It's even sillier because Khorne actually invaded Terra with massive legion in early M42 but somehow didn't use his trump card...

xerxeskingofking wrote:
to be fair, the Tzeentchian types getting played is a reoccouring theme of Tzeentch. part of his "plans within plans" schtick. Tzeentch is always playing his pawns against his other pawns, because he finds it fun and is hopelessly addicted to scheming, so schemes against himself.

Well yes, but this mostly applies when he is scheming against himself. Or some mortal race. Doing so in crucial moment of great game against the other powers of Chaos is much less likely (and it's not like he didn't have excuse to intervene personally seeing just Khorne did).

**Segersgia**

tneva82 wrote:
Segersgia wrote:
I really think that there are interesting ways of having Angron's immortality create an interesting narrative.

If factions realise that killing him isn't an option anymore, they might look for ways that neutralize hime without banishing him.

Like how? Talk to him and send flowers & chocolate?-)

Stasis, Capture, imprisonment, redirection, meddling by the other gods, doing a Kryptman, a psychic ritual... maybe something related to the other factions, perhaps. It's not going to be easy, that is for sure.

**NinthMusketeer**

Speaking seriously, they probably do need to kill him with melee combat for it to stick. That's what Khorne respects. Orbital bombardment of Angron? Cowardice that should not be rewarded with victory.

**Dysartes**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
Speaking seriously, they probably do need to kill him with melee combat for it to stick. That's what Khorne respects. Orbital bombardment of Angron? Cowardice that should not be rewarded with victory.

If Khorne doth not care from whence the blood flows, he shouldn't be so picky about orbital bombardments.

After all, it isn't like we're talking magick, or Slaaneshi debauchery here...

**Boosykes**

Only beauty can tame the beast. The Johnson will be along shortly to handle his business.

**NinthMusketeer**

Dysartes wrote:
NinthMusketeer wrote:
Speaking seriously, they probably do need to kill him with melee combat for it to stick. That's what Khorne respects. Orbital bombardment of Angron? Cowardice that should not be rewarded with victory.

If Khorne doth not care from whence the blood flows, he shouldn't be so picky about orbital bombardments.

After all, it isn't like we're talking magick, or Slaaneshi debauchery here...

Khorne certainly cares about the means by which blood flows, besides I don't think incineration is the best way to shed blood, exactly...

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Boosykes wrote:
Only beauty can tame the beast. The Johnson will be along shortly to handle his business.

**Manfred von Drakken**

tneva82 wrote:
Segersgia wrote:
I really think that there are interesting ways of having Angron's immortality create an interesting narrative.

If factions realise that killing him isn't an option anymore, they might look for ways that neutralize hime without banishing him.

Like how? Talk to him and send flowers & chocolate?-)

Now that he's immortal, ripping out the Nails wouldn't actually kill him, would it? I'd start there.

**Iracundus**

Khorne doesn't seem to care from whence the blood flows when it comes to the offerings to him, though he does seem to care how it flows, such as if they are through "in your face" bloodshed as opposed to abstract push button killing such as long range space combat.

Khorne may view certain forms of fighting or sorcery as "cheating" by weaklings, but if his follower succumbs then it's their own fault for being weak too. There is for example in the original Realms of Chaos book a Khorne Champion that is hit with a Death Head of Nurgle (aka Blight grenade). The Champion pleads (in vain) for Khorne to save him from an ignoble death from disease and rot. So Khorne takes a "blame the victim" mentality. He might look down on the enemy for resorting to unworthy ways of killing, but it's his own follower's fault for falling to weaklings, making them weak too.

**Irbis**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
Khorne certainly cares about the means by which blood flows, besides I don't think incineration is the best way to shed blood, exactly...

Isn't Khorne's credo "Kill Maim BURN"? You'd think he would like incineration given that last part...

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

PSA

Arks of Omen Abaddon is back in stock. Will be ordering me a copy tomorrow.

**Kinetochore**

Dont get your hopes up. Ordered my copy on the 22nd from GW and not seen a peep of it getting dispatched:-(

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Ordered mine 23rd, got shipping confirmation this afternoon. Had already booked tomorrow off work (im so up to date I’ve sod all to do, but my case load is maxxed), so Mando, Bad Batch, Abababababanadon.

**Haighus**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Ordered mine 23rd, got shipping confirmation this afternoon. Had already booked tomorrow off work (im so up to date I’ve sod all to do, but my case load is maxxed), so Mando, Bad Batch, Abababababanadon.

Any interesting snippets to share?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Still plugging through it.

I am impressed at how well Abaddon is written, as much like Angron, we get insight into his thought processes - such as only ever wishing to deal with Daemons and Gods on his own terms, giving them as little as possible in return.

He’s surprisingly human, and not moustache-twirling.

The battles also written interestingly, as neither side is just ROFLstomping the other.

I’m greatly enjoying this.

**The_Real_Chris**

Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Now that he's immortal, ripping out the Nails wouldn't actually kill him, would it? I'd start there.

Wasn't that done in the heresy? And presumably they grew back?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Right, that’s that one out of the way.

Odd mystery introduced, and like Angron, it’s refreshing to see a campaign told from the Chaos perspective.

**Tsagualsa**

Today's hype article for AoO III is up:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/03/arks-of-omen-vashtorr-catches-the-dark-angels-between-the-rock-and-a-hard-place/

It contains an interesting tidbit: apparently, Vashtorr made a deal with an AI to be able to predict the Rock's movements. Said AI is connected to 'a clueless Inquisitor of the Ordo Astartes' like a footnote in the article says. This may or may not be related to the Dark Angels' small stockpile of lobotomized AI battle robots from the Dark Age of Technology...

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

The Lion Sleeps Tonight…but he’s gonna get up soon, and have his arse in his hands!

**Tsagualsa**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The Lion Sleeps Tonight…but he’s gonna get up soon, and have his arse in his hands!

I mean, if there's a deal there has to be something that Vashtorr offered the AI as well... freeing their trapped 'brothers' could be it.

**Segersgia**

I feel the article is hinting that the Rock might not make it out alive.

**Dysartes**

Segersgia wrote:
I feel the article is hinting that the Rock might not make it out alive.

I didn't know Dwayne was in this movie.

**oni**

Posted this in another thread, but perhaps it's more appropriate here.

We know Cypher was trying his hardest to get into the Golden Throne room.

We're pretty sure that Cypher has the Lion Sword.

We do not know Cypher's intensions.

Speculation: Might Cypher have been trying to, perhaps even tasked with, taking the Lion Sword to the Emperor as proof that The Lion has been found, is alive and needs the Emperor's help?

**xerxeskingofking**

oni wrote:
Posted this in another thread, but perhaps it's more appropriate here.

We know Cypher was trying his hardest to get into the Golden Throne room.

We're pretty sure that Cypher has the Lion Sword.

We do not know Cypher's intensions.

Speculation: Might Cypher have been trying to, perhaps even tasked with, taking the Lion Sword to the Emperor as proof that The Lion has been found, is alive and needs the Emperor's help?

I was under the impression the lore piece that revealed the Lion was on the Rock was written with the explicit statement that the emperor did in fact know this, and just wasn't willing or able to communicate this?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

I suspect once we’ve read Vashtorr, we’ll be able to make more accurate guesses.

**Tsagualsa**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I suspect once we’ve read Vashtorr, we’ll be able to make more accurate guesses.

I'd not take that as a given considering GW's usual quality of writing

**xerxeskingofking**

so, games workshops open day reveals include the fact that the 4th arks of omen book is "arks: Farsight", and is based on a bad moons vs farsight enclave battle.

Puretide’s protege is now piloting a bleeding-edge XV-86 Supernova battlesuit, designed specifically to suit his needs by O’Vesa, the Earth Caste scientist who fights by his side as one of the Eight – Farsight’s hand-picked crew of companions. Though similar to the XV-8 Crisis suit, this hot rod sports greatly enhanced command and control suites, all guided by a fancy on-board AI – dubbed Supernova

The infamous Bad Moons warlord Nazdreg, master of tellyporta taktiks, has taken up the reins of the War of Dakka – a never-ending conflict fuelled by the Orks’ desire to beat the Farsight Enclaves at their own shooting game.

Strange visions draw O’Shovah back to the ominous world of Arthas Moloch, and just as he seems to be ready to vanquish the Orks once and for all, disaster strikes. It wouldn’t be an Arks of Omen book without an Ark or two showing up, after all…

As with all Arks of Omen books, Farsight contains additional rules for playing Boarding Actions, adding Enhancements and Stratagems for the T’au Empire, Asuryani and Ynnari, Drukhari, Harlequins, and Adepta Sororitas.

intresting the explicit mention of the AI on his suit......

given the reference to arks, im assuming that one of the eldar factions might be involved in this as a side force.