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2023/12/23 06:20:22
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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Lemondish wrote: ph34r wrote:What are people equipping their Sisters Superior with? Power sword obviously, but then what gun?
Plasma pistol?
Inferno pistol?
Combi-weapon?
Condemnor boltgun exclusively for looks.
Fair enough, it looks cool. I was going for more of a “I’m building the models and I want them to not be weaker than necessary.’
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ph34r's Forgeworld Phobos blog, current WIP: Iron Warriors and Skaven Tau
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2023/12/23 07:30:54
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Depends on the role of the unit the superior is in. For passive units meant for actions/ babysitting home objective I'd go vor one of the 24" guns, favorably the condemnor because it helps against targets we might struggle against (tough monsters are often psykers), although basically neither choice will have a big impact on the game. For units going close and personal (dominions with flamer or melta), I'd go with hand flamers. Inferno Pistol is just to bad with low range, 3" melta range and d3D - I only take it on my sacresant superior as a surprise shot in engagement range.
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2024/01/04 07:10:31
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
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Hey guys so I am finally back to playing more standard sized games. I took about 4 months or so off from them due to a myriad of IRL commitments and instead participated in a Combat Patrol League at my FLGS but I am getting back into 2k games again now that I finally have the time.
I have played a few games so far against the new Marine Hellblaster spam and TSons Cabal/Flamer spam with Magnus and got rocked that latter matchup especially. The marine matchup was way better and honestly without a few key misplays in the final turn (like forgetting to tank shock onto an objective) I probably win since it was so close, but the TSons cabal/flamer spam with double move/doombolt was rough to deal with. My luck was pretty terrible until about Turn 3 but even with some more average rolls I think I would still narrowly lose. I am trying to come up with more list ideas but honestly while my collection is fairly large I just have no interest in playing any Arcos or the Triumph or Junith or even Morties usually, though I will play them over Pengines at least. I would need more Arcos to run a full squad and I have no intention of getting 30 and then I also just do not enjoy the Triumph or Junith models so I have never picked them up. I was wondering if anyone had any advice on certain more competitive list builds that include most of the units I have and would like to use. For reference I am usually bringing the following in most of my lists (obviously in different combinations as I test different things):
-Vahl with Paragon Suits (usually with a mace for tank shock)
-Celestine with either Zephyrim or Hand Flamer Seraphim
-2 Exorcists (with the good missile launchers)
-1-2 Battle Cannon Castigators (sometimes I play 1 with Autocannons)
-1-2 Immolators
-2-3 BSS w/Meltas
-Palatine with the Blade
-1-2 MM Retributor Squads
-An additional HF Seraphim squad
-Sacresants
-Dominions
-1-2 Rhinos
-Dialogus with one of the Rets
These are usually the models I am running in most of my lists and usually the models I most enjoy playing. I will split BSS or Dominions in the Immolators and usually have the Palatine run with either Sacresants or Dominions but I want to try how she does with a BSS too. My base setup in any list is usually Vahl+Suits, Celestine+Zeph/Seraph, 2 Exorcists, Castigator with Battle Cannon, MM Retributors, 2 BSS w/Melta, Palatine with Blade running with Sacresants or something else, and then an Immolator to split one of the BSS. Then everything else gets mixed in depending on the type of list I am trying out or based on what I might know I am up against.
Honestly coming back into 2k games after several months has just made me feel so rusty and inadequate and I am just looking to see if I am on the right track with list building for us right now. I am not trying to be hyper competitive since I do not plan on getting the big combo models like the Triumph or 30 Arcos, but I also do not want to be building parking lots all the time either. I know that flooding the board with models has been working for us to some degree and have plenty of girls that I can run but I also like to bring at least a few Exorcists, a Castigator, and an Immolator. I guess I am just looking for a semi competitive, well-rounded, all-comers list using the units that I enjoy and primarily know how to use.
I am open to any suggestions! Thanks!
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The Emperor Protects his Faithful! For the Glory of His Name!
~4000 Points of Sisters
~1000 Points of SW
~1000 Points of Tau
~1000 Points of Guard
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2024/01/08 06:27:30
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Pious Palatine
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Did a tournament.
List was Triump 125
Palatine 65 Blade
Celestine 135
Zephryim 70
Morvenn 125
Paragons 200
Exorcist 160
Castigator 140
BSS 100
BSS 100
Rets 115
Immolator 115
Rhino 75
Rhino 75
Crusader 25
Crusader 25
Arco 40
Arco 40
Dialogus 30
Preacher 40 Saintly
Arcos 130
Mortifier 60
Game 1 was Orkz, He Waaghed Turn 1 and sat on the midline objective after I went first and just put some junk bus units on the objective. Giving Sisters a free counter punch is a bad idea. Tabled turn 4. Also, I had just an insane setup for the 'I choose who you fight' strat.
Game 2 was also Orkz. He Waaghed turn, but it was Hammer and Anvil so he probably should have waited until turn 3. Ended up winning on points, though he scored very well by flooding the midline.
Game 3 was Votann. Hammer and Anvil made this really hard, but I was only slightly behind when it was time for Morvenn and her Suits to come in from outflank...problem was there wasn't a single useful position for them to come in. Because I wasn't able to bring them in...I wasn't able to clear him off the objective enough to reel the score back in. I would have tabled him turn 6 but he was up 91 to 44.
Pretty good event, all things considered: Changes: Deployment game 3 was bad. Put the Triumph squad up front and the Palatine squad in back for reasons I no longer understand.
Retributors are bad. I never got anything useful out of them. Another BSS with the Immo is just better.
The junk bus was still awesome, but I actually had a pretty serious issue getting people to kill the character for the blessing bonus dice.
Either adding an Imagifier/Hospitaller and a unit of Crusaders, or dropping a unit of Crusaders and adding Junith would probably be better than trying to exploit the Saintly Blessing thing.
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2024/02/01 12:06:19
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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So now we've had some time to digest the changes are we thinking of swapping Arco-flagellants for repentia?
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2024/02/01 13:36:46
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Fresh-Faced New User
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U02dah4 wrote:So now we've had some time to digest the changes are we thinking of swapping Arco-flagellants for repentia?
I think repentia and flaggellants have different roles so we still need at least 1 unit of flaggos imho
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2024/05/20 02:02:50
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
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So looks like we are getting a Jump Canoness, which is definitely nice though the model is kind of meh imo.
More importantly it looks like our codex is only going to have 4 detachments, one based on jump infantry, one based on repentia and other melee focused units, and one based on the holy trinity of weapons along with supposedly a slightly tweaked version of the Hallowed Martyrs detachment. Overall it seems like a bit of a disappointment but we obviously won't know anything until the book either comes out or leaks over the next few weeks along with the standard warcom articles. I was really hoping for 6 detachments at least themed on the main orders but if they at least give us decent detachments in these 4, similar to the Tau codex, then I think it could be fine.
What are we thinking so far? Worst case we become the next Custodes codex I guess lol
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The Emperor Protects his Faithful! For the Glory of His Name!
~4000 Points of Sisters
~1000 Points of SW
~1000 Points of Tau
~1000 Points of Guard
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2024/05/20 03:26:40
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I got used to six sub-groups over 8th and 9th, and I miss that. I really like Sacred Rose, with their focus on serenity, and now that's gone. Also, Argent Shroud's speed/ mobility niche will be missed.
However, I've always had a kick for Penitent Legions, and I like the idea of an angelic jump force, and none of the old six were exactly those things, though Bloody Rose was a good fit for a penitent legion since penitent units tend to be close combat focused...
Anyway, I'm likely to have a Cult of Martyrs detachment and a Penitent Legion and a Angel detachment. Sisters are my primary, and I've really been trying to step up building and painting. The Penitent Legion will be heavy on walkers, and will include cameos from Karamazov and Arbites.
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2024/05/20 03:50:43
Subject: Re:Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I just hope something works well with the current collection of models I have; my stuff is more optimized for last edition and a lot of it isn't terribly good in 10th, and financially I'm in a bit of a bind and can't just go get more models. Otherwise I'm gonna stick with my Dark Angels for this edition, as at least they have some workable builds that my collection will support.
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2024/06/07 17:41:24
Subject: Re:Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
Ottawa
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The upcoming codex looks promising.
According to the latest news, the Bringers of Flame detachment will be the way to go for shooty players (all ranged weapons are Assault and get +1S at 12''). On the other hand, the Penitent Host detachment looks a bit overspecialized, and the Army of Faith detachment just doesn't seem worth it (at least on paper).
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Cadians, Sisters of Battle (Argent Shroud), Drukhari (Obsidian Rose)
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2024/06/07 19:19:46
Subject: Re:Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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-Guardsman- wrote:The upcoming codex looks promising.
According to the latest news, the Bringers of Flame detachment will be the way to go for shooty players (all ranged weapons are Assault and get +1S at 12''). On the other hand, the Penitent Host detachment looks a bit overspecialized, and the Army of Faith detachment just doesn't seem worth it (at least on paper).
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Yeah, if you're not packing maximum Repentance, the Penitent Host may not be the best choice, that's for sure.
At the current points values, unit sizes and other datacard rules, you can max out as follows:
3 x 2 Morties 330
3 x 2 Pennies 330
3 x 10 Repentia 330
3 x 10 Arcos 480
Total: 1470
Take the rest of the points on HQ and rhinos. One of the difficulties is that most Penitent units can't have Leaders. Only Missionaries (which apparently no longer exist) and Preachers can lead Arcoflagellants.
That's it.
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2024/06/07 19:45:28
Subject: Re:Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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-Guardsman- wrote:The upcoming codex looks promising.
According to the latest news, the Bringers of Flame detachment will be the way to go for shooty players (all ranged weapons are Assault and get +1S at 12''). On the other hand, the Penitent Host detachment looks a bit overspecialized, and the Army of Faith detachment just doesn't seem worth it (at least on paper).
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It's the best detatchment ability but till we have all the strats it's hard to say. +1ap is really strong on a vahl paragons and arcos
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2024/06/07 23:36:27
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
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So far I am liking what they have shown us. Obviously we do not have the full picture but even the super specialized Penitent Host looks very usable and if you hear Mr. Nanavati from Art of War talk about it its one of the most busted things this edition. Personally I think Bringers of Flame will be the one I use the most and I think it fits very well with what we want to do currently but I also see value from double Acts of Faith and being able to use MD multiple times on a unit without needing to bring the Triumph is really nice. I think if there is some kind of stratagem or enhancement in Army of Faith that lets you automatically generate a 6 MD either at the start of the game or possibly a few times a game or even like any MD generated by the character is always counted as a 4+ even if you roll less than 4 that would turn it from a "pretty good detachment" to something that is easily one of the best, maybe right up there with Bringers of Flame. Both of those detachments seem somewhat competitive though and I think Hallowed Martyrs will remain usable along with Penitent Host being good. We just have to see more to say for certain, but it seems like (knock on wood) we may be the codex that breaks the curse/trend of Imperium books being pretty bad in 10th so far.
I am pleased with what I have seen so far. Both Bringers and Army of Faith fit my playstyle plus the Ebon Chalice Order theme of literally "Fire (melta or flamer) and Faith." My only disappointment so far is that it seems like we don't have a somewhat durable detachment to represent the Valorous Heart which is the other Order I love aside from Ebon Chalice. I honestly never thought we would get this much love so its nice to see some potential redemption for the 9th edition book that was pretty much "fine" lol.
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The Emperor Protects his Faithful! For the Glory of His Name!
~4000 Points of Sisters
~1000 Points of SW
~1000 Points of Tau
~1000 Points of Guard
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2024/06/09 14:06:15
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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The triumph now gives you an auto miracle dice of a 6 each battle round so...
.as to durability the faith detatchment with a strategically placed jump unit can give half your army -1 to hit which is reasonably tanky
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Better
Triumph - Amazing
Celestine healing of bodyguards improved
Aestred not awful now but struggling to find a spot
Cannoness much better free strat can join retributors
jump canoness free strat deapstrike single model
Imagifier both 2+ and 4++ solid
Novitiates infiltrate and md gain
Hospitaller 5++ and now resurrects models great
Castigator individually less effective but now a force multiplier
Sacresants +1A and ability works off any character
Same
Daemonifuge broadly the same slight buff on kyganil slight nerf against tyranids who cam now synapse the ld check but competing with jump cannonness
Dialogus slight change meh
Palatine slight change meh
Dogmata no worse meh
Vahl slight buff but not enough but still suffers from the same issues once you kill her unit she's not worth the points
Dominion Squad reactive move and miracle dice gain
Ministorum priest still ok
Retributor slight buff still glass canon
Repentia slight buff in second round of combat # if alive
Paragon +1T and buffed melee is better but still glascannons to anti tank and disappointingly when they fail they charge
Penitent engine same
Seraphim no change
Zephyrim slight change not meaningfull
Mortifier slight change
Exorcist slightly better ap but loss of heavy and some move
Rhino no change
Nerfed
Junith despite being tankier now a miracle dice drain or doesn't get you a cp 10/36 of the time
BSS lost guaranteed miracle dice gained sticky objective
Arcoflagellents big loss in durability
Crusaders gone
Cheap priest for assault gone
Death cult assassins gone
Immolator now strips cover rather than substantially buffing unit inside
As to detatchment
Hallowed martyr slight nerf the loss of +1 to wound strat hits it hard but the auto explode vehicle is nice
Faith really strong strats mediocre detatchment ability
Flames strong detatchment ability weak strats
Penitent very specialised my gut says not quite good enough but could be a nice counter list to meganobs
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2024/06/10 14:03:25
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
Ottawa
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U02dah4 wrote:Exorcist slightly better ap but loss of heavy and soke move
Maybe a dumb question, but what's "soke move"?
BSS lost guaranteed miracle dice gained sticky objective
Bleh.
Where'd you get all that info?
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Cadians, Sisters of Battle (Argent Shroud), Drukhari (Obsidian Rose)
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2024/06/10 16:36:22
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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-Guardsman- wrote:U02dah4 wrote:Exorcist slightly better ap but loss of heavy and soke move
Maybe a dumb question, but what's "soke move"?
BSS lost guaranteed miracle dice gained sticky objective
Bleh.
Where'd you get all that info?
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"Some move" evidently I can't type
Having 12 hours of train journey in 24 hours and watching just about every codex review on youtube
its all in this one though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm2B4Ia1qLI&t=2772s
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2024/06/10 17:33:38
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Losing the miracle dice gain from BSS really undermines the Faith detachment- being able to perform two AoF per phase sounds great, but if they take away MD generation, it isn't great at all.
Edit: Ahhh. Simularca have been changed to generate MD now, so we don't need to rely as much on BSS objective camping as we did.
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2024/06/10 18:11:50
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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so its not completely removed but you now only get it on a 4+ per objective with a simulacrum (and then you get the 4+). So domminions and also novitiates (who now have infiltrate also do this)
so really its a loss of the 1,2,3 MD (50% per per battle sistered objective) and the old simulacrum generation which was rare
but since we can start on the midboard objectives you could potentially be better off in the early game if you role well
the other thing of note is the triumph now gives you a MD6 per battle round
and that detachment has a couple of extra ways to get them.
Net I still think its the strongest as its ability is always a boost to have reguardless of who your against and its strats are the best
hallowed martyr im not so keen on now it lost its +1 to wound reroll hits instead doesnt help repentia or vahl paragons and arcos lost a big chunk of their durability I might end up going back to it though character resurection is such a strong option to have
if arcos werent nerfed maybe penitent would be ok but its to one trickish
The big contender is really flames which seems great into T10 but its strats are rubbish and require a very boxy build I imagine more players will gravitate to it because extra damage output is obviously of benefit but in practice it doesnt give you the options
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2024/06/10 19:13:03
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Pious Palatine
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U02dah4 wrote:so its not completely removed but you now only get it on a 4+ per objective with a simulacrum (and then you get the 4+). So domminions and also novitiates (who now have infiltrate also do this) so really its a loss of the 1,2,3 MD (50% per per battle sistered objective) and the old simulacrum generation which was rare but since we can start on the midboard objectives you could potentially be better off in the early game if you role well the other thing of note is the triumph now gives you a MD6 per battle round and that detachment has a couple of extra ways to get them. Net I still think its the strongest as its ability is always a boost to have reguardless of who your against and its strats are the best hallowed martyr im not so keen on now it lost its +1 to wound reroll hits instead doesnt help repentia or vahl paragons and arcos lost a big chunk of their durability I might end up going back to it though character resurection is such a strong option to have if arcos werent nerfed maybe penitent would be ok but its to one trickish The big contender is really flames which seems great into T10 but its strats are rubbish and require a very boxy build I imagine more players will gravitate to it because extra damage output is obviously of benefit but in practice it doesnt give you the options Hallowed is flatly better than it was in the index. Same combos except some new tools and buffed stratagems. Divine Intervention got buffed and Suffering and Sacrifice went from being an AMAZING stratagem to being the single best melee stratagem in the entire game. Losing the +1 to wound strat is annoying, but almost everything that used it doesn't need it anymore (except arcos) and things that still DO need it, got a lot better with it. Zephyrim, for example, are nuts; as are the now S8, T7 non-vahl warsuits. You're also just wrong about the Bringer's of Flame strats. -1AP is REALLY good for us, especially in lists that are light on repentia/arcos. Lethal Hits in fight phase is excellent for fully half of our melee units, repentia, Non-Vahl suits, Pengines, Mortifiers, Halberd Sacresants all love it. All 3 Transport strats are great considering you were already going to be bringing immos with this detachment, and Cleansing Flames is nuts with Seraphim. Sure, if you bring 100 footslogging noviatiates the strats are bad, but if you lean into what the detachment is trying to do, they're incredibly powerful at facilitating several aggressive shooting/hybrid strategies.
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2024/06/10 19:49:43
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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With the immo changes and splitting less effective on BSS due to md change I'm dropping immos entirely and yes I can see it's trying to force you into a boxy build and if that's what you are already doing it's mediocre at best if you wernt it's a big detriment to list building if you have to pay 75pt tax to even activate it
And yes the ap1 is the best strat but -1 to hit 3" aura is better
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2024/06/11 02:01:51
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Just read the Goonhammer review.
Happy that the Penitent Host includes an enhancement that makes a character Penitent. This also allows them to lead a Repentia unit; this strat was literally made to let Pious Vorne lead Repentia, though as the Goons point out, the Palatine's lethal wound ability probably makes her the best candidate.
For me it's a story hook; leader messes up? That leader gets the penitent keyword next game, and joins a unit of Repentia. If the Palatine needs to repent, so be it. But that won't stop me from having Canoness or Priest repent when the story demands it. Tomorrow we get to see the Crusade rules; their tendency so far has been to pretty much preserve any of the 9th ed content that was good... And the sisters had pretty solid content, including rules for swearing the Penitent Oath and being absolved of it.
Most units will join my army as novitiates before being promoted into the roles they are destined to occupy; similar, I don't plan to buy penitent units; units in the list will BECOME penitent according to story triggers. Fail a battleshock test that gives up an objective? You'll be coming back as a penitent unit next game, and you'll stay that way until you're absolved in battle.
So for me, the question of this detachment is when enough units are in a state of repentence to make the detachment's use viable. But the fact that HQ units get in the penitent oath now is story gold.
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2024/06/11 20:59:28
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Crusade rules are solid.
I don't like the change to Living Saint Abilities, but I understand it- I just think it makes all LS too samey.
But Novitiates can graduate now and become full sisters, and models can still swear a Penitent Oath and be redeemed.
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2024/06/20 16:57:13
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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Thankyou gw ruined before the codexs even arrived
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2024/06/20 21:01:54
Subject: Re:Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Confessor Of Sins
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Considering it was a codex full of buffs, points increases were to be expected… but d ! They dropped the hammer on us.
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2024/06/20 22:43:46
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If the next three months of tourney results don't indicate that we perform acceptably at these point values, the next MFM will drop us back down.
I reserve judgement until I've tried it on the table, but I too was shocked at the number and amount of point increases.
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2024/06/21 11:18:19
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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I would have no problem to points nerfs to repentia, triumph, and paragons, celestians who got noticeably better though the scale might be off
but heavy pts nerfs to BSS, deamonifuge , penitent engines/mortifiers seraphim arcos and zephyrim which all either became worse or didn't change significantly seems problematic.
I don't need 3 months of evidence to tell me losing 1/4 of my army, losing 40% of my MD and my cheap objective holders and getting minor unit buffs in exchange means i end up significantly worse
Only thing It helped with is making the choice between faith and flames easier as theirs no way i'm getting the MD/having the points for flying units to make faith work,
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/814060.page#11677461
The above is what I think I will try
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2024/06/24 11:10:09
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Fresh-Faced New User
Madrid, Spain
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The point increases are outrageous.
I like sisters being more elite, but some options are just too much. We move into space marine territory of points.
Celestian Sacresants are as expensive as Black Templar primaris crusaders. Wont bother compared these units. The differences are wild in favor of the latter one. Repentias being as expensive as Plague Marines,... the list goes on.
Retributors being almost as expensive (per model) as Erradicators, lol. Only these guys reroll EVERYTHING, have 3 wounds and T6.
I could go on... Its fine making sisters more elite. But its crazy how well we have to play and move with our squishy but as expensive as space marine models.
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2024/06/24 16:59:54
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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It's what you get when you price all Penitent units as being in the Penitent detatchment and all melta units being in flames detatchment vs t9/t10 spam (ignoring that if your opponent spams T4-, t6-8, 11+ your actually worse than Hallowed martyr or faith). While all faith units are definitely wielding double 6's given the reduction in MD.
Sisters are absolutely broken as long as you don't play them in reality and just work off optimised hypotheticals. There's always trade offs
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2024/06/24 20:22:46
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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I really dislike detachments that overtly boost just certain units, so that the units are either OP with that detachment or worthless without it. I just want to have a nice varied army with different units and have it to be viable.
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2024/06/25 17:15:09
Subject: Faith and Fury: Adepta Sororitas 10th Edition Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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Yes don't mind trade offs my meltas are better my melee is weaker but pointing should be based off s reasonable price for the unit excluding detatchment so it works in all detatchments and if a detatchment is problematic that should be nerfed or a key unit not 90% of the codex sequentially
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