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 namiel wrote:

the cards were gone in less then 2 hours. I was hoping to get my hands on 3-4 sets

And you wonder why they sold out so quickly...

 japehlio wrote:
It doesnt seeem so much 'again' as 'for the first time, albeit different way' given that they are virtually retconning storm of chaos...

But hey, if they are bringing back rules for my lovely Valten(s) Im happy, especially if this means there is even a slight chance of a redo of Teutogen Guard (hey I can dream!)

On the note of WFB time of legends stuff, Id hate it tbh. I dont want my games of wfb to feel like a historical tabletop game. Plus, as awesome as having a sigmar model would be, i dread the prospect of fighting an Undead Legion style army with Sigmar era Empire. No halberds/gunpowder/artillery/stanks/magic or warrior priests? No thank you...

Not true

Times of Legend novels often have as much mad or more powerful stuff than "modern day" - Dwarves had huge stone golems and larger and more powerful runic devices and weapons at their disposal - elves had more and larger Dragons, much bigger armies etc. Skaven are Skaven - the living armies of what are now the Tomb Kings has lots of magic and gifts of the Gods - lots of great stuff. Yeah the Empire was really the tribes but so good stuff there and interesting troop types from warrior women to berserkers.

Lords
High Necromancer
Tomb King

Heroes
Necromancer
Wight King
Cairn Wraith

Core Units
Vampire Counts Skeleton Warriors
Skeleton Archers
Skeleton Horsemen with bows
Skeleton Chariot

Special Units
Grave Guard
Black Knights
Spirit Host
Tomb Guards

Rare Units
Cairn Wraiths
Casket of Souls

Shortened down the selection to fit my Barrows army plan. I like the idea of the selection for a themed army.
Anyone see rumors on the new spell lore?

 japehlio wrote:
It doesnt seeem so much 'again' as 'for the first time, albeit different way' given that they are virtually retconning storm of chaos...

Storm of Chaos was such a shambles it was retconned right after it had finished.

In other news, I've been waiting 20 years for the plot to advance. I hope it sticks this time.

Out of curiosity what was the fluff that came with Storm of Chaos. before this thread I hadn't even looked long enough at it to realize there was any.

 jonolikespie wrote:
Out of curiosity what was the fluff that came with Storm of Chaos. before this thread I hadn't even looked long enough at it to realize there was any.

http://warhammerfb.wikia.com/wiki/Storm_of_Chaos

However, in terms of board game Chaos was basically getting its ass kicked up and down the shop, so Archaon got magically teleported to Middenheim, whereupon Grimgor utterly decimated Archaeon.

That last part was retconned so the fluff makes it sound like Grimgor fought Archaeon after he was already basically beaten after a double team from Luthor Huss and Valten. Grimgor also didn't kill him because reasons. They said it was because Grimgor figured Archaeon was the only human who would give him a decent fight, despite kicking his face in.

Oh, and Valten was offed by an unnammed skaven assassin, probably cuz GW didn't wan't the guy who beat Archaeon around to make their Fantasy Abaddon to look bad.

 jonolikespie wrote:
Out of curiosity what was the fluff that came with Storm of Chaos. before this thread I hadn't even looked long enough at it to realize there was any.

There was a whole supplement book which I still have, enjoy/ed reading and even still use as source material - it was also the basis of the entire FFG Warhammer 2nd Edition FRP "modern" timeline - again which worked well.

There were some fun army lists including Carnsteins, Skaven Clan Eshin, High Elf costal raiders, Mddenheim, Dwarf Slayers etc.

Valten was offed by an unnamed Skaven assassin

IIRC its was Deathmaster Snitch?

Chaos got hammered between the forces of the Grand Alliance of Empire, Dwarves and HIgh Elves, the rampaging Orcs and Mannfred's army from Sylvania. Middenheim was pretty heavily damaged and most of its population killed, also reducing the status of the Cult of Ulric.

The Orcs wondered off - hitting stuff as they went, Mannfred backed off rather than fight the Grand Alliance.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I should think 'all of them' in their current form,

it sounds very much like the rumoured armybook mashup is going to happen with 'the end times' being a good excuse,

so 3 (or 4) books forces of order, chaos, undead (and maybe neutrals)

so expect some stuff to no longer be fieldable as stand alone lists, and expect much more 40K allies style gaming

I'd support that, if the price was bearable. The fluff seems to allow fairly mixed armies so having the rules reflect that would be great, if it saves me having to buy multiple books for some fluffy alliances.

I was hoping for WFB 9E with a few tweaks to really 'fix' WFB 8E, and a revamped Bretonnia.

I'm not sure what we're actually getting now, but I am certainly interested!

Seems like a throw back to Hero Hammer while moving the timeline forward.

I'm also interested for sure.

Is this book really sold out now?

Are there plans for another printing?

No idea. But I'll probably be picking one up from one of the vendors at Nova just because I do love Fantasy. Even if I never get to play it.

 Alpharius wrote:
Is this book really sold out now?

Are there plans for another printing?

The only thing that's sold out on the UK site is the magic cards. If you're referring to the limited edition book being reprinted, then no, otherwise it wouldn't be limited. If you're referring to the normal edition, then sure, my guess is that they'll reprint it on a supply and demand basis.

 Anfauglir wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Is this book really sold out now?

Are there plans for another printing?

The only thing that's sold out on the UK site is the magic cards. If you're referring to the limited edition book being reprinted, then no, otherwise it wouldn't be limited. If you're referring to the normal edition, then sure, my guess is that they'll reprint it on a supply and demand basis.

He's referring to the US site, where the normal book was showing up as 'No Longer Available'. That no longer seems to be the case.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Anfauglir wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Is this book really sold out now?

Are there plans for another printing?

The only thing that's sold out on the UK site is the magic cards. If you're referring to the limited edition book being reprinted, then no, otherwise it wouldn't be limited. If you're referring to the normal edition, then sure, my guess is that they'll reprint it on a supply and demand basis.

He's referring to the US site, where the normal book was showing up as 'No Longer Available'. That no longer seems to be the case.

Yes, I was refering to the 'cheapest' option - the "standard" edition.

It was indeed showing up as 'No Longer Available'.

It is now showing up as a "Pre-Order" - so...good times!

Wonder if Warhammer: The End Times is the official new name for the game come 9th.

Or it's essentially Warhammer:Apocalypse?

BoLS have just posted another 'what's next' rumour round up, and 'voice of the chaos gods' is saying that we're due second chapter of the end times coming late October early November

wonder (if it's true as this is the first I've seen this rumour) if it's true whether the undead will feature in that too, or if it's off to another bit of the WFB world

Voice of the Chaos Gods - Total rumors: (15 TRUE) / (37 FALSE) / (1 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

I wouldn't take a lot of notice, irrespective of what he/she is saying.

That's good, azrael, because I really am not interested in buying an expensive book every few months just to advance the plot... this game needs restructuring / new rules / etc...

I had a quick look at the breakdown the Pretre maintains too, and the true/false is all over the shop, it just doesn't fit that some of the things that were correct are alongside things that weren't unless it really is just guesswork, because it seems highly implausible that they could know one particular fact about an upcoming release, and yet get something else about that book/model totally wrong if they had some legitimate source.

I can see what you mean. But I also remember there being a lot of rumors about Space Marines getting a giant walker. Which ended up being false.

But what if the source saw the then unreleased Imperial Knight and reported it to those particular mongers?

There is an awful lot of grey area it would seem.

Holy macaroni! $105 for a single character miniature?!

 Harriticus wrote:
Holy macaroni! $105 for a single character miniature?!

It is pretty huge. It's about twice the price of a similar sized kit from Hasagawa, Revell, Tamiya, etc etc... which is about standard for GW kits. So if you find Nagash over priced, it's really no more overpriced than the rest of GW's offerings.

Heh. Just had an idea- chop it up and use it for parts- there's enough spirits there that you could probably make a few Spirit Hosts or unit fillers, the various bone-tacles and books would make nice terrain pieces or decorations, you could use the Staff as a banner (for, like, Necromancer Ogres or something)... And then chop up the rest of him and make a Nagash-y Exodia! With each body part coming out of a pentacular portal!

Looks like the size of a damn stompa haha!!!

 Azreal13 wrote:
Or it's essentially Warhammer:Apocalypse?

Isn't that what Storm of Magic was supposed to be?

 -Loki- wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Or it's essentially Warhammer:Apocalypse?

Isn't that what Storm of Magic was supposed to be?

It was. Since that isn't played as much, this is now GW getting larger stuff into normal games. AKA WFB: Escalation.

40KNobz11 wrote:
Looks like the size of a damn stompa haha!!!

No, just the price of one. The Stompa and Baneblade each have about three times as much plastic in them.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Or it's essentially Warhammer:Apocalypse?

Isn't that what Storm of Magic was supposed to be?

It was. Since that isn't played as much, this is now GW getting larger stuff into normal games. AKA WFB: Escalation.

Will this develop the same way? First release Apocalypse, then forget it, then release Escalation, forget about it, then release a new edition which incorporates it all!