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Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka




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Check them out:






They're ok, but far from Brian Nelson good.  I'm really mad that Brian wasn't the one to sculpt all the new orc and goblin models.

"Nothing from the outside world can be imported into Canada without first being doused in ranch dressing. Canadian Techs have found that while this makes the internet delicious it tends to hamper the bandwidth potential. Scientists are working furiously to rectify the problem. "

--Glaive Company CO 
   
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TH orc warbosses are pretty neat, but the rest is bla....

Hope more old fools come to their senses and start giving you their money instead of those Union Jack Blood suckers...  
   
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Clousseau





Wilmington DE

So....Dragonrune Orcs will be filling out people's 7th ed. armies, then?

Guinness: for those who are men of the cloth and football fans, but not necessarily in that order.

I think the lesson here is the best way to enjoy GW's games is to not use any of their rules.--Crimson Devil 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Standing outside Jester's house demanding the things he took from my underwear drawer.

The Shaman on foot has no teeth......that I like. The Warbosses are simply alright, but I really don't care for the Gobbos. You don't think the Shaman and /or the Warboss are like the Space marine Commander. Plastic with a bunch of options.

I've seen the Reaper Exarch with both weapon options and both look like things you can buy in sex shops. A weapon should not look like this, not even a Emperor's Children weapon. -Symbio Joe 
   
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Incorporating Wet-Blending





Houston, TX

Hrm, some blah minis and uninspiring paint....

-James
 
   
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut






In da Mekshop

What the hell?

Is this what Seb Perbet is leaving for us orc lovers? Blah!  I had such faith in the man.  That warboss is no more interesting than a regular orc boy!  His face has  no detail, ho looks like a yoof.

The goblin warboss looks good, but the others (aside from the shaman's missing choppers, nice touch) are completely devoid of any interest. I don't see much point in swapping out older Nelson orcs for these lackluster pieces.

Get your orcs now while you can, before these things hit the shelves...


-GrimTeef-
Proud mod of The-Waaagh forum and Vice-President of the Brian Nelson is a Sculpting God Club 
   
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Been Around the Block




Murrieta, CA

Well, I have to admit, aside from being multi-part and being able to do a mounted or (and?) dismounted version in the same kit, the orcs are a bit of a let down. The goblins (in general) are the best new additions. Shame really, I was looking at starting an O&G Warband this year.

   
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Infiltrating Broodlord





Mordheim/Germany

The Warboss doen't deserve this name...

Definately room for improvement.

Greets
Schepp himself

40k:
Fantasy: Skaven, Vampires  
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka




Canada

Brian Nelson triumphs! That'll teach GW to pay someone else to try and mimic Nelson's style.

"Nothing from the outside world can be imported into Canada without first being doused in ranch dressing. Canadian Techs have found that while this makes the internet delicious it tends to hamper the bandwidth potential. Scientists are working furiously to rectify the problem. "

--Glaive Company CO 
   
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Plastictrees



Amongst the Stars, In the Night

They all look good... as rank and file figures, but as characters, especially command characters? Methinks the idiocy of letting so many studio artists go and switching to freelancing is coming to the fore now. Kinda funny how Kirby is all "GW is about the miniatures" but the metal sculpts have been steadily declining in quality...

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The Loyal Slave learns to Love the Lash! 
   
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40kenthus






Yoor Speeshawl too Gawd!

Why does the Orc Warboss have a shaven boar?  I like the toothless one the rest are bleagh

Only now do I realize how much I prefer Pete Haines' "misprints" to Gav Thorpe's "brainfarts." :Abadabadoobaddon 
   
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40kenthus






Yoor Speeshawl too Gawd!

Why does the Orc Warboss have a shaven boar?  I like the toothless one the rest are bleagh

Only now do I realize how much I prefer Pete Haines' "misprints" to Gav Thorpe's "brainfarts." :Abadabadoobaddon 
   
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Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

Posted by nyarlathotep667 on 08/02/2006 12:48 PM
... but the metal sculpts have been steadily declining in quality...

Well the Warboss (who's taking the most heat) is a multi-part plastic kit. Also note that the mounted Shaman is an exisiting model that was released last year for the Storm of Chaos campaign and can be seen HERE.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Amongst the Stars, In the Night

Posted By Ghaz on 08/02/2006 11:56 AM
Posted by nyarlathotep667 on 08/02/2006 12:48 PM
... but the metal sculpts have been steadily declining in quality...

Well the Warboss (who's taking the most heat) is a multi-part plastic kit. Also note that the mounted Shaman is an exisiting model that was released last year for the Storm of Chaos campaign and can be seen HERE.


Ah, thanks Ghaz, I wasn't aware the Warboss was plastic, in which case it's not so bad. In regards to the decline in metal sculpts, I'd say it's been ongoing for a few years. LoTR is an exception, though, as their sculpts have almost universally be gorgeous. There are still the occasional metal beauts that come out for 40k/WHFB, but overall, those lines metal figs they aren't the premier figures they used to be or are talked up as. This is a shame since metal casting allows for such finer detail.

OT Zone: A More Wretched Hive of Scum and Villany
The Loyal Slave learns to Love the Lash! 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




They are all truly disgusting. What have they got Nelson doing these days if not orcs?
   
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Fresh-Faced New User




I don't mind the orc who's missing an eye so much but not as a general, perhaps a unit champion.

Yesterday I got to get a good look at the plastic sprues for the new basic set. The spider riders are excellent plastics, and most of the stuff in there is pretty good for the gobbos. Dwarves were... ok. The terrain was good as well.

I agree with Kamarathin that the gobbos are much better than the new orcs.
   
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy




Sweden

Posted By _Jomi on 08/02/2006 12:20 PM
They are all truly disgusting. What have they got Nelson doing these days if not orcs?
 
Ditto... Is he still chained to that LotR-crap? I really looked forward to the new Orcs & Goblin stuff but I havenĀ“t seen a single new model i want...


   
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Dominating Dominatrix






Piercing the heavens

the shaman on foot is okay, but the Warboss is just...not a Warboss...
   
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Regular Dakkanaut






Ok, are they really leader figures? lets go down the list.

Screaming faces? Check.... oh wait, missed one.
Raised arms? Check.... and look, some have x2 arms in the air! They must be x2 bosses!
Look a bored kid taking his school pictures? Check.... even the boar's and wolves look bored.
Inspiring presence that will stand out on the field of battle? Nah. 75% is a passing grade, no need to go crazy.

Start an Orc/Gobbo army? I'll pass.

-Hans


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Mainly because my sense of humor is as bad as my skill at this game. 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Standing outside Jester's house demanding the things he took from my underwear drawer.

At least plastic allows for different heads on the warboss. Perhaps a head from previous ork figures......sculpted by say.......hmmmmm.....I don't know..........

I've seen the Reaper Exarch with both weapon options and both look like things you can buy in sex shops. A weapon should not look like this, not even a Emperor's Children weapon. -Symbio Joe 
   
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Keeper of the Adeptus Arbites Flame






Cairo, Egypt

The piggies are the worst problem, they're way too small and just comical looking.

 
   
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The "Bark at the Moon" mounted Warboss, the Gobbos and the toothless Shaman are cool, the others...

"Seriousness is the only refuge of the shallow"~Oscar Wilde 
   
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Florence, KY





The sprues for the Orc Warboss.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Plastictrees



Amongst the Stars, In the Night

This is why you always let Jes or Brian do the plastics. Not impressed on that sprue at all and I'm sure it will retail at some ridiculous price to boot. Crap. At least the gobbos in the BfSP box are good looking!

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The Loyal Slave learns to Love the Lash! 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




No wonder they look cack, I thought they were metal....

 

Oh well at least theres options for conversions. But I agree the warboss on foot looks dreadful

   
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Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

Brian Nelson, the guy who did the original Orks for WFB and 40K 3rd Ed. Where is he now?

BYE

   
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In da Mekshop

I knew that the warboss was plastic, and as was mentioned, that is no excuse. Look at the Kroot plastics, look at the Genestealers. They are all excellent sculpts with good amounts of smalll detail. Even the Ork Boy plastics look better than this, and they are years old now! I like that there is so much abilty to customize him, but when all the pieces are only sculpted so-so, what does it matter?

I had heard that Brian Nelson is not currently sculpting anything for LOTR. I don't know what he is doing now though. I'm hoping it's new 40k Ork plastics, as they are rumored to be getting new vehicles of all types next year, and that is surely taking some time.

-GrimTeef-
Proud mod of The-Waaagh forum and Vice-President of the Brian Nelson is a Sculpting God Club 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Thats not to say that plastic is a bad medium or worse than metal. However when a sprue is not done nicely (I agree with the earlier point regarding brian and Jes) then they look awful.

Some recent GW platics have been shabby though, for example LOTR wood elves.

However the Tau, Kroot, Eldar, and Space marine plastics are amazing. Thats whats annoys me so much. Done well plastic is a brilliant medium (especially with the new high def plastic moulds). These orcs sadly are naff.

They aren't terrible and have conversion possiblities, however they are a disapointment.

The whole thing reminds me of painting by numbers. New army book Check, New accesorry sprue for regiment check, new bog standard hero check. 

   
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Posted By Gundammecha on 08/03/2006 8:04 AM

The whole thing reminds me of painting by numbers. New army book Check, New accesorry sprue for regiment check, new bog standard hero check. 


When I first saw these sneak peeks and sprues the first thing that sprung to mind was "dumbing down". At least the piggy isn't as stupid looking as the stag/ horse/ whatever thingy that the WE is sat on.

And to anyone who says plastic is a bad medium - Aberattion Prime anyone?


2014 will be the year of zero GW purchases. Kneadite instead of GS, no paints or models. 2014 will be the year I finally make the move to military models and away from miniature games. 
   
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Yellin' Yoof




Da Green Mountains

The best part is the facemask for the orc warboss. They should have shown that. Check my pics from Chicago for the good pic:

http://www.pbase.com/ordoxenos/gd_chicago_2006



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