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That doesn't sound right...
I could have sworn it was Imperial Guard, then Tyranids, then Space Wolves...

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so when preorders go up tuesday will we see the other kits?
   
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Archonate wrote:That doesn't sound right...
I could have sworn it was Imperial Guard, then Tyranids, then Space Wolves...
Nope. It wasn't.

Even t3h wikipedias agree:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Codex_%28Warhammer_40,000%29#5th_Edition




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SweetLou wrote:so when preorders go up tuesday will we see the other kits?
Should do. I am gonna grab me a Codex and at least a Lileth, so i get it early

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puma713 wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:*blinks*

'Nids came out before The Space Wolves. That's why JOTWW was invented, remember?


That and, if I recall, the 'Nid battlefore never changed from the old codex to the new one.


It changed, diffrent units
   
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Archonate wrote:That doesn't sound right...
I could have sworn it was Imperial Guard, then Tyranids, then Space Wolves...


5th ed was space marines.. then an absolutely huge inexcusable wait before imperial guard, sw, nids, BA


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Kirasu wrote:
Archonate wrote:That doesn't sound right...
I could have sworn it was Imperial Guard, then Tyranids, then Space Wolves...


5th ed was space marines.. then an absolutely huge inexcusable wait before imperial guard, sw, nids, BA

Correction, 5th ed was Chaos Dæmons, Followed by SM, IG, SW, Nids and BA.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:I'm still kinda surprised there's no Deathwing battleforce.


Because there's no Deathwing sprue, and the only Deathwing specific parts are a few shoulder pads, a Storm Bolter, a Power Sword, a set of legs and an Assault Cannon - all located on a sprue full of Power Armour Marines. A Deathwing Battle Force would just be a big box of Terminators - probably 15-25 of them, or maybe 15 and a Dread and Land Raider - but nothing that screams "Deathwing".


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Kanluwen wrote:I'm 99.99% sure that it's still people misinterpreting a statement.


No, reds8n stated pretty explicitly that the Battle Forces were going the way of the dodo. He hoped it wasn't true, but he said that chatter was edging that way and the Woof box was the last one.


There's more than that. There's DW specific banners to glue to the tops of Seargeants,a ton of small bits like censors and such to add to the models,DW Storm Shields,and the robed heads that don't have a helmet are all useful for DW models.

The real reason behind not having a DW Battleforce is the fact that the price point for Battleforces is suppossed to be $90 US. Terminator boxed sets are $50 US on their own. A competitively priced DW Battleforce would be a Terminator box,an Assault Terminator box,and a DA bits sprue. 10 models doesn't equal a Battleforce.
   
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H.B.M.C. wrote:So that's why they turned the Tyranid Battleforce into gak by taking out the Carnifex...

Well that, and everyone and their mother in terms of Tyranid players from the previous edition already had broods of Carnifexes.
   
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Kanluwen wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:So that's why they turned the Tyranid Battleforce into gak by taking out the Carnifex...

Well that, and everyone and their mother in terms of Tyranid players from the previous edition already had broods of Carnifexes.
And any NEW players wouldn't need them because they got hit with the Nerf Tree, let alone the Nerf Stick.

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Norwich

So we are now bored of Dark Eldar, and are onto Battleforces, and the former releases timeline


I'm sure many have said already, but what are you all planning on buying on/near release day?

I'm going to get the codex, possibly a IC (Not sure which one yet though :S) and probably a Raider (from GW)
Since i only have a small collection of DE from earlier this year, i don't want to buy a load of random stuff like i did when i got Eldar....it didn't work, so i'm going to keep saving money, and wait untill i'm back at xmas from Uni, and buy the rest of the army online (with a lovely discount )

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I'm sure many have said already, but what are you all planning on buying on/near release day?


We were told not to talk about that any more.

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Sidstyler wrote:
I'm sure many have said already, but what are you all planning on buying on/near release day?


We were told not to talk about that any more.


When? I havn't seem much (and i'm fairly sure i have been through every page....) on what people are actually going to get....
I'm just interested in other peoples buying patterns...

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Buying pattern?
I'd first make some plans for the army to be fielded.
Here the best seems to be Raider spam.

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Box of Bikes or Hellions.

However if there's a sniff of a box I will wait to get maximum value. I still have some tau to finish painting.

It mainly depends on how I feel. I might just buy the dex, wait until the hype has died down a bit. It also depends if wayland do AA

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Is the ravager even going to be in the first wave? And how long of a wait between these waves will there be?

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It is supposed to be a combo box at least that was the rumor a while ago as for the DE i am going to build a ton of buildings to hide my marines in and shoot them out of.

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Kanluwen wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Most people in the know are not aware of any battle force release in the near future, certainly not this year.

Then they're full of crap. Everything I've heard points towards a battleforce release for the first wave, in November/December.

We will see. I made a link to your post for future reference
Maybe we see the first DE release without a product code
H.B.M.C. wrote:So that's why they turned the Tyranid Battleforce into gak by taking out the Carnifex...

Ever read the 5th edition Carnifex rules? Everyone prefers Trygons now, with almost no use for a Carnifex except for conversions.

Anyway,
- November 6th: Codex, Kabalites, Wyches, Raider, Reavers, Archon, Lilith, Incubi.
- November 20th: Hellion, Ravager, Mandrakes.
- no new talos model for a very long time
- only 1st wave models photographed in the Codex

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...can you define "a very long time"?

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I would expect a ravager as with wyches, raiders and warriors the army would not be that playable. GW tend to make an army 'viable' in its first release.

I would really love a battleforce to be available from the get go and I am told by a blueshirt that it will be one of the biggest releases in terms of 'new stuff all at once'. Obviously you NaCl content may vary...
   
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Kirasu wrote:
Archonate wrote:That doesn't sound right...
I could have sworn it was Imperial Guard, then Tyranids, then Space Wolves...


5th ed was space marines.. then an absolutely huge inexcusable wait before imperial guard, sw, nids, BA

Correction, 5th ed was Chaos Dæmons, Followed by SM, IG, SW, Nids and BA.


sure are alot of xenos...


 
   
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Daemons were officially the first codex built for 5th edition (Eternal Warrior). Though Orks seems to be heavily built for 5th as well but didn't use any of the new USR's.

As for the release I plan on picking up around 10 vehicles and a few boxes of troops (assuming I have anything left). That is of course based on what the codex looks like

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Daemons were released at the time of 4th edition, but it was so close to the release of 5th they were almost definitely written to be used as a 5th ed. codex.

Can't believe I forgot about that...

As for my purchasing intent:

Codex
Incubi (a lot)
Reavers (a lot)
Raiders/Ravagers

I assume of course that the codex will have some way to make Incubi into troops choices

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Kroothawk wrote:Ever read the 5th edition Carnifex rules? Everyone prefers Trygons now, with almost no use for a Carnifex except for conversions.


As a Nid player I agree with you, I traded my Carnifex for a Trygon. This is only because Trygons provide a fun element of psycological warfare, since what's scarier than three MC's marching down the board to kill you? 3 MC's that can appear anywhere on the board, ignore Deep Strike Mishap's and kill you. That, and the Trygons then provide points on the board where reserve troops can spawn from.

Anyway. back on-topic. I will be buying:
Codex
Incubi (10)
Reavers (maximum limit for 2 FOC's)
Wyches (several)
Raiders (several)

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I guess I'm the only one who still uses ccarnifexes to beat my opponents face in?

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chaos0xomega wrote:I guess I'm the only one who still uses ccarnifexes to beat my opponents face in?


No, I run 2 Trygons and a brood of 3 fexes. Idea being, does the opponent want to deal with the immediate, visible threat, OR stay defensive and deal with the tunneling horrors?

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Gathering the Informations.

Kroothawk wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Most people in the know are not aware of any battle force release in the near future, certainly not this year.

Then they're full of crap. Everything I've heard points towards a battleforce release for the first wave, in November/December.

We will see. I made a link to your post for future reference
Maybe we see the first DE release without a product code

They generally don't change the product code for Battleforces/Battalions, so...
   
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thats a good point Kanluwen.. Would there even be a need to update the product code for something that needn't change?

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