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Lets make a guess, would Primarch Leman Russ come back with the 8th edition Space Wolf Codex? For the Wolf Time!!!

Oh dear lord I hope not.

70 regular wolves or 70 thunder wolves? Regular i cant help much, i only own 5. But thunderwolves are amazing. Take 2 max squads with storm shields, take a wolf lord and a wolf guard battle leader, and point them at something you dont like. They are fast enough to get there and hit hard enough or have enough weak attacks to go through pretty much anything. Thunderhammers if you want big stuff dead. Chainswords if you want chaff dead.

70 thunderwolves... dear god, that would hurt something! I like the idea of a tide of gnashing fur and whirling axes!

Lol. I had 15 thunder wolves at one point, the only thing they had issues with were other thunder wolves. Otherwise they were freaking amazing, if a bit 1 trick. But 2 squads of 5, 1 with storm shields and chainswords other with storm shields and thunder hammers, with a small group of 3 running backup and a wolf lord and a wolf guard battle leader each on theit own wolves, oh it hit whatever it wanted dead hard and fast.

It was too expensive for me to run consistantly though so i got rid of a few of them. Still, good luck getting through all that 3++.



Edit ---- didnt want to double post


Playing a game tomorrow/ this morning at 10am vs imperial guard. Last time i went up against him i took both flyers and they got blasted turn one, i lost the stormwolf before anyone could get anywhere and i lost 5 wounds on the stormfang before i even got a turn. So this time i am going in a little smarter.

My list.



My plan is simple. I am going to run the dreads up the board directly at his biggest target / threat with njal and hope his cover save plus the 3++ on the venerables give them enough protection to get there. Harald deathwolf, wolfen, and wolf scouts outflank to whatever side is weakest. Longfangs ait back and shoot at vehicles in range, hopefully in cover if not thats what the storm shield on the wolf guard is there for. Lucas and bloodclaws are hitching rides on the rhino / razerback for a turn 2 charge at either the other flank or with njal. Rhinos at -1 to hit and +1 for cover should be able to get where i need them to. I may drop the razerback for a second rhino and put dual storm bolters on each rhino, but i am pretty happy with the threat potential of this list.

Neophyte2012 wrote:
Lets make a guess, would Primarch Leman Russ come back with the 8th edition Space Wolf Codex? For the Wolf Time!!!

proably not, we'd have started seeing some sort of leaks/previews by now if Space Wolves where getting anything I wanna say, my guess is we'll get the useal Primaris Lt character and a release of primaris boxes with space wolf upgrade sprues.

So I just got home from my game, Space wolves won vs Imperial Guard 12 to 9.

My list did great, I can't say anything bad about any of it. The storm shield on the long fangs was particularly funny, first turn my opponent shot a basilisk at them while they were in cover and did 5 wounds to them. Storm shield tanked them all. After that he just said "well, I am not going to bother shooting at them if THATS how its going to go" and they got ignored until bottom of T5. The dreadnought group did great as well, Murderfang did end up in front of the Ven's after a few successful charges and things died and got blown away by a Leman Russ, but Bjorn made up for it. He killed 2 Leman Russ's and a Manticore in close combat throughout the game. Wolfen did ok, between them and Deathwolf they were killing back field tanks. And the bloodclaws and Lucas did good, though many of them died to overwatch at one point, but they are cheap so eh.

I am not 100% sure where I will go from here. I am thinking of dropping Murderfang and putting another Venerable Dred in or some more bloodclaws in another rhino. Also considering dropping the Wolfen for Thunderwolf Calvery, they both fill the same roll but thunderwolves have higher T and more W for 1 less str, but Str 8 vs Str 10 doesn't come up that much.

Neophyte2012 wrote:
Lets make a guess, would Primarch Leman Russ come back with the 8th edition Space Wolf Codex? For the Wolf Time!!!

There was a rumour after Magnus was released that the next 4 Primarchs would be Roboute, Mortarion, Russ and Angron. I really want it to be true but I also feel there would have been some hints dropped by now if he was coming with the codex. The SW novel "Ashes of Prospero" would have been the perfect place to drop some hints but there was nothing. Instead that book hinted Johnson, Corax and Khan with no sign of Russ.

My guess is that now the Primarch taboo has been broken, we will see all the surviving Primarchs eventually but my hopes of Russ arriving with our Codex are diminishing rapidly due to the lack of even the saltiest of rumours.

 Karhedron wrote:

Neophyte2012 wrote:
Lets make a guess, would Primarch Leman Russ come back with the 8th edition Space Wolf Codex? For the Wolf Time!!!

There was a rumour after Magnus was released that the next 4 Primarchs would be Roboute, Mortarion, Russ and Angron. I really want it to be true but I also feel there would have been some hints dropped by now if he was coming with the codex. The SW novel "Ashes of Prospero" would have been the perfect place to drop some hints but there was nothing. Instead that book hinted Johnson, Corax and Khan with no sign of Russ.

My guess is that now the Primarch taboo has been broken, we will see all the surviving Primarchs eventually but my hopes of Russ arriving with our Codex are diminishing rapidly due to the lack of even the saltiest of rumours.

my gut feeling is they're gonna save primarchs for big events.

Your list looks tight Azuza001, i like it.

I added a wolf priest to my list on the previous page and dropped a unit of long fangs. So far i’ve tabled DG/nurgle/khorne twice, and tablet a UM/GK list twice, bar a leviathan that i try to avoid best i can. Now my index wolves are the main concern for the players in my playgroup who have all got their codex xD

I've got this crazy idea that I want to run two units of 5 Skyclaws each, and a Wolf Guard Battle Leader with Jump Pack, T-Hammer & S. Shield.

The plan is to give two of the Skyclaws in each unit, and each of the Skyclaw Pack Leaders, all Flamers. I move and advance turn one, then move and advance turn two. Flamers are assault weapons, so I can fire them even though I advanced. I just have a To Hit penalty on to of the poor (by Space Marines standards) 4+ BS.

Except Flamers are auto hit. I'd get 3d6 auto hits from each unit provided two turns of Jump Pack Move & Advance got me to within 8" of enemy units. And the Wolf Guard Battle Leader bubble lets me re-roll 1s To Wound.

Skyclaws are Headstrong so they MUST Charge if they are able to, but they are NOT able to Charge because they Advanced. That opens them up to GETTING charged, but if they do then on Overwatch they light up the enemy with auto hit Flamers AGAIN.

Now I know there is NO WAY that I'm the first person to have this idea. So I guess my question is has any else has good luck with this?

I have some skyclaws that have done well before, but i use them as fast moving bloodclaws to keep up with wulfen so just chainsword / bolt pistols on mine. Its an interesting idea, force the advance to stop the charge.

Thanks Northern85Star, your list sounds solid as well. I love our index army is able to not only stand with codex armies but able to give them a bloody nose and win as well. I look forward to our codex, but at the moment it doesnt matter much. I have a 2000 pt tournament in a few weeks and i plan on taking the wolves. It may be stupid (we have a lot of thousand sons players in our group) but I say "Bring it pups!"

The issue with jump pack flamers is delivery. You can't deepstrike in, because you won't be able to fire the flamers.

If you footslog them, they aren't likely to be in range of anything the first turn unless you go second. 12" move, 3.5" average advance gives the flamers a 23.5" threat range with flamers. This means that on average, you won't be able to move them on the first turn and have them flamer something in the typical (24" away) enemy deployment zone. Then you are stuck in the middle of the board to be shot at the next turn.

If you do make it, 3 flamers only kills about 4.6 guardsmen. So it's not exactly the most effective thing in the first place. And then you can't charge because you advanced, so you are still going to get shot the next turn.

If you go second the other player has a chance to shoot at your skyclaws, but if they live or are ignored you can probably get into range of something. But ideally you get in range without advancing so you can actually charge something, which is what the unit would actually be good at.

It seems to me that the main use for skyclaws is to keep them cheap with chainsword and bolt pistol, and either deepstrike them in like a poor mans death company squad (ideally with Ragnar around for a charge re-roll), or rush them forward for a turn two (or turn one if you go second) charge.

GW is keeping their rumors in check pretty good nowadays, if they don't want you to know something you won't. So the lack of rumors about Russ is no indication either way. I suppose they want to keep the focus on AoS for now and start sharing tidbits about SW and Orks once that is launched.

Fluffwise I think the time is ripe for Russ. The great warp tear is a great conduit for Russ to appear from and return. Furthermore Fenris and the chapter is not in a very good shape so all the more reason to begin the 'Wolf Time'.

 Weazel wrote:
GW is keeping their rumors in check pretty good nowadays, if they don't want you to know something you won't. So the lack of rumors about Russ is no indication either way. I suppose they want to keep the focus on AoS for now and start sharing tidbits about SW and Orks once that is launched.

Fluffwise I think the time is ripe for Russ. The great warp tear is a great conduit for Russ to appear from and return. Furthermore Fenris and the chapter is not in a very good shape so all the more reason to begin the 'Wolf Time'.

Maybe but my hunch is another loyalist primarch'll get a big event related to them, the deamon primarchs have always been "just there" in the background, so Morty getting brought back with codex death guard makes sense, especially as the death guard getting their own codex is by itself kinda "big development"!
Russ I got a feeling they'll do gathering storm style.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Weazel wrote:
GW is keeping their rumors in check pretty good nowadays, if they don't want you to know something you won't. So the lack of rumors about Russ is no indication either way. I suppose they want to keep the focus on AoS for now and start sharing tidbits about SW and Orks once that is launched.

Fluffwise I think the time is ripe for Russ. The great warp tear is a great conduit for Russ to appear from and return. Furthermore Fenris and the chapter is not in a very good shape so all the more reason to begin the 'Wolf Time'.

Maybe but my hunch is another loyalist primarch'll get a big event related to them, the deamon primarchs have always been "just there" in the background, so Morty getting brought back with codex death guard makes sense, especially as the death guard getting their own codex is by itself kinda "big development"!
Russ I got a feeling they'll do gathering storm style.

If SW are getting the BA/DA treatment then it really baffles my mind why they waited this long and not get it done beginning of the year. The late release at least for me is an indication that we are getting "something". But we'll just have to wait and see really.

I think we will see a space wolves primaris release, which explains the wait.

I wish we didnt get primaris... it would be nice if one force said "no" to them. As it is i dont use them in my force. But its not going to happen, gw is all about getting them into every force and on the table. If dark angels said yes then i can't see space wolves haveing an issue

Azuza001 wrote:
I wish we didnt get primaris... it would be nice if one force said "no" to them. As it is i dont use them in my force. But its not going to happen, gw is all about getting them into every force and on the table. If dark angels said yes then i can't see space wolves haveing an issue

It's also worth noting that in the past everytime Vanilla Marines have gotten something Dark Angel, Blood Angel and Space Wolves players all tended to ask why they didn't get them. so the "New GW" may be concious of this and wanting to avoid arbitrarily not giving a chapter a certain tool.

:Looks at my venerable dreads with axes and shields:
:Looks at the ravenwing black knights and dark shroud:
:Looks at the blood angels baal predator and tacticals with heavy flamers:

I am not sure we have much of a leg to stand on as far as "them getting all the new toys". Our stuff is definatly awsome as it is

Azuza001 wrote:
:Looks at my venerable dreads with axes and shields:
:Looks at the ravenwing black knights and dark shroud:
:Looks at the blood angels baal predator and tacticals with heavy flamers:

I am not sure we have much of a leg to stand on as far as "them getting all the new toys". Our stuff is definatly awsome as it is

ohh I agree but at the same time those where coming out you where hearing of people complaining about "we didn't get grav or centurions"

that said I do think focusing on giving primaris to all is a good idea. as every marine army has the "basic tactical squad" in some form or another/

According to BolS we are getting primaris sets, ice-themed dices, datacards.

To be released in a new boxed 40k game with orks and sw in it. Would be nice with an updated rulebook, honestly.


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The question then is: will we see unique sw primaris units in our codex? Or will the primaris kit simply be a way to wolf up the primaris kit, to be used as standard primaris units?

Northern85Star wrote:
According to BolS we are getting primaris sets, ice-themed dices, datacards.

To be released in a new boxed 40k game with orks and sw in it. Would be nice with an updated rulebook, honestly.


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The question then is: will we see unique sw primaris units in our codex? Or will the primaris kit simply be a way to wolf up the primaris kit, to be used as standard primaris units?

the new bos isn';t nesscarily having orks and SWs in it, a lotta folks are suggesting it's just the killteam/RT box. still a orks/SW box would be nice.

Ah ok, then i wont be spending money. Rumor has it that release is sept-oct, so there is a couple of months.

Think i will stick to my painting schedule. I am only interested in primaris if they will function like blood claws or wolf guards, to be buffed by characters, as i only use grey hunters for cp generation, screens and obj holders. Wolf guards are nice on bikes or thunderwolves, along Arjac. Blood claws are good with plasma and Lukas. Hellblasters are good, but they’re not so much better than long fangs that i am willing to buy and paint them.

Northern85Star wrote:
Ah ok, then i wont be spending money. Rumor has it that release is sept-oct, so there is a couple of months.

Think i will stick to my painting schedule. I am only interested in primaris if they will function like blood claws or wolf guards, to be buffed by characters, as i only use grey hunters for cp generation, screens and obj holders. Wolf guards are nice on bikes or thunderwolves, along Arjac. Blood claws are good with plasma and Lukas. Hellblasters are good, but they’re not so much better than long fangs that i am willing to buy and paint them.

I'm honestly hoping to see a new primaris orginization for space wolves but I expect it won't be the case. and yeah I don't have much intreast in primaris for my space wolves. primaris slot into most space marine forces reasonably well but space wolves entire base orginization is differant and if they don't reflect that with SW primaris...

When was the last time a BolS rumor was actually true? I mean it's been a while since any rumors have panned out. Short of GW themselves actually teasing/revealing new stuff.

 Weazel wrote:
When was the last time a BolS rumor was actually true? I mean it's been a while since any rumors have panned out. Short of GW themselves actually teasing/revealing new stuff.

never really. even the Space wolf rumor they posted is a pretty no brainer. they just looked at what EVERY space marine codex got, and posted a rumor that it's what space wolves will get

BrianDavion wrote:

Northern85Star wrote:
According to BolS we are getting primaris sets, ice-themed dices, datacards.

To be released in a new boxed 40k game with orks and sw in it. Would be nice with an updated rulebook, honestly.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
The question then is: will we see unique sw primaris units in our codex? Or will the primaris kit simply be a way to wolf up the primaris kit, to be used as standard primaris units?

the new bos isn';t nesscarily having orks and SWs in it, a lotta folks are suggesting it's just the killteam/RT box. still a orks/SW box would be nice.

I would def love a Orks and SW box as I play both armies and I would buy 2 straight out of the gate. However they did that in 6th edition and can't see them doing it again. There would be people who complain about them repeating a box set. I'd buy a box that had either Orks or Wolves regardless of what the other army was.

TheunlikelyGamer wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Northern85Star wrote:
According to BolS we are getting primaris sets, ice-themed dices, datacards.

To be released in a new boxed 40k game with orks and sw in it. Would be nice with an updated rulebook, honestly.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
The question then is: will we see unique sw primaris units in our codex? Or will the primaris kit simply be a way to wolf up the primaris kit, to be used as standard primaris units?

the new bos isn';t nesscarily having orks and SWs in it, a lotta folks are suggesting it's just the killteam/RT box. still a orks/SW box would be nice.

I would def love a Orks and SW box as I play both armies and I would buy 2 straight out of the gate. However they did that in 6th edition and can't see them doing it again. There would be people who complain about them repeating a box set. I'd buy a box that had either Orks or Wolves regardless of what the other army was.

I could see them re-releasing stormclaw with the rules updated for 8th edition just to put out a box. but yeah other then that I doubt we'll see anything

So i have come up with my list for the next local tournament. This is either going to be awsome or awful, i will have to play the objectives and really focus on killing or tying up only the things that are killing me, ignoring stuff that doesn't matter.

My list.


Total cost - 1993 pts

Idea is simple enough. I can get away with 6 drops total by putting 15 blood claws and Lucas in the stormwolf and 15 blood claws and iron preist in crusader. I may switch the 15 in the crusader to grey hunters for the extra range and flexibility. Iron priest moves with the 4 dreads keeping them alive. I will have to ignore any enemy flyers as much as possible, and getting in close will be key, but i think this can work. I am expecting quite a few omperial knights at this tourny, but murderfang and bjorn can make them cry in cc so it should not be a problem. I plan on giving bjorn the +1 attack when charging trait so 6 attacks, hitting on 2's rerolling 1's, wounding knights on 3's rerolling failed wounds, at ap-4 and d6 damage a peice should do about 14 wounds on the charge? Assuming 5++ save on the knight. Thats pretty damn good i think. Not to mention his shooting still. Thoughts?