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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The interesting part will be the expansions to the game three races.

Now with Daemons they can kinda go anywhere, and we know about the other Dragons and their areas of influence, but what about Kislev?

If they introduce a new Kislev LL - which seems all but inevitable - where do they go? Kislev is a small place, and Boris has already been sent north to avoid it being too cramped.

Are we going to get Kislev Expedition to the New World?

As far as Ogres go, other than Golgfag, who else would be good choices to add to the game?


As has already been mentioned: https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Bragg_the_Gutsman
https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Braugh_Slavelord ties in nicely with the inevitable Chaos Dwarf DLC

https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Katerina_de_Hansebourg would be fun as a Leg hero




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I don't think they'll make Braugh, but he sounds perfect for a LL/LH mod.

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 nels1031 wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The interesting part will be the expansions to the game three races.

Now with Daemons they can kinda go anywhere, and we know about the other Dragons and their areas of influence, but what about Kislev?

If they introduce a new Kislev LL - which seems all but inevitable - where do they go? Kislev is a small place, and Boris has already been sent north to avoid it being too cramped.

Are we going to get Kislev Expedition to the New World?

As far as Ogres go, other than Golgfag, who else would be good choices to add to the game?


Kislev just feels complete, imo. I'd welcome new stuff for sure though.

If memory serves: For Ogres, in the lore there was a sickly redheaded Ogre who was abandoned by his father and thrown in with either the Gorgers or Frost Sabres. He survived and ended up leading his new "tribe" to kill his father and take over. Never had a mini though.

Also, there was a limited edition Ogre miniature named Braugh Slavelord who had enchanted chains or some such that gave him some form of Necromantic powers.
The sickly ogre is already ingame. It's Skrag the Slaughterer.

The other choices could be Ghark Ironskin of the Ironskin Tribe. Had a giant mechanical mount and was obsessed with iron weapons, iron everything and slapping all his enemies armor onto himself when he defeats them. He's also a major trader with the Chaos Dwarfs.

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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
The sickly ogre is already ingame. It's Skrag the Slaughterer.


Nah, Skrag had a different story.

After looking into it, Jhared The Red was the one I was referring to.

https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Jhared_the_Red

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Ah I hadn't seen that one before. When you mentioned Gorgers it's what came immediately to mind.. That and having another monster hunt character would be cool.
   
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Braugh would make cool a cool hybrid faction. Ogres + Undead.

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High Elves:




Shadow King further up north from where he was, Teclis on the other southern continent.

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Interesting that Teclis has been moved to the Southlands, I wonder if there's something that will take his place. Eltharion has Tor Yvresse and a place in the Badlands. Is that the same as current? I believe I've only played his vortex campaign and I seem to recall just having the start in Ulthuan.

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Yeah, he gets a divided start in ME.

Teclis vs Fateweaver feels like getting it out of the way early. I actually think that conflict would be more interesting later, after some time to build up. But early on, I think that's too much in favor of Fateweaver.

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The northeast corner of the map is looking awfully empty. They'll probably put Greasus and both Cathay LLs at or near their usual starting positions. And Clan Eshin will probably be hidden away somewhere in there, too (as it is in Warhammer 3, albeit non-playable). But all four of those lords will be near the right-hand side of the map, near Cathay. There's a large open area between Cathay and Kislev that's likely empty. The Chaos Dwarves will eventually fill part of that. But we won't see them until next year at the earliest. And I doubt they'll fill the whole thing. Who else is likely to go in there?

On the other hand, Update 2.0 is supposed to include Immortal Empires, the start of the Warriors of Chaos rework, and the first Lords pack (which will have "four champions"). I could see Warriors of Chaos getting a new lord as part of the rework (bringing them up to the standard four). So we'll likely see four - and possibly even five - new lords at the same time as Immortal Empires. Some of them might fill up that space.
   
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Bretonnia :




Fey Enchantress + Louen = Same.

Repanse = Same?

Alberic = Off questing in Lustria.




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Maybe Alberic has a split start like Eltharion. Facing off against zombie pirates suits his sailing nature. Maybe coastal regions are green for him?
   
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Oh, I rather like that one. It fits his sea focus and with the Teclis move, I didn't really like the straight line of lizardmen confederations facing off against Skrolk, the Huntsman and crazy vampirate.

Keeps the enemy variety going in that part of the world (I presume there's still savage orcs, spine of sotek dwarfs and some stray non-playable skaven)
Also makes some space in Bretonnia itself.

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I'm real puzzled by people making daily videos for a map snapshot. That's a bit desperate for youtube ad money.

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Maybe he'll get cannons in his unit roster?

After all, such weapons are only forbidden in the lands of the Lady.

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Voss wrote:

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I'm real puzzled by people making daily videos for a map snapshot. That's a bit desperate for youtube ad money.


It is, however, how a lot of algorithms and such work. Basically a lot of social media codes and such work on regular content. Posting daily videos and content is just what those systems want. They directly encourage the creation of lots of short sharp quick articles over fewer bigger more detailed ones.

So this kind of marketing is something the youtube crowd will feed into directly. Plus each one has their own fanbase who turn to them for information at least first or second hand. So their own fans will want this kind of information.

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Some clarification from CA:

It's not an Eltharion-style dual start, slight mix up on our end. Alberic starts in Bregonne, without any lands in Bretonnia proper. The region Bordeleaux will start under the stewardship of Aquitaine, who can be confederated by tech in the usual way - though personally I like to hold off on doing that until I've completed Alberic's Grail Vow for a bit of roleplaying.

EDIT: similarly, Imrik is not a dual start, but will retain his mission allowing for confederation of Caledor.

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Cathay is... not surprising at all, except that they're adjacent.

I'm curious to see how active the AI will be on the sea lanes, otherwise that's a pretty hefty enclave for those two. (Eshin isn't that hard to crush early on).

But I'm not sure that the lizardmen (most likely to be dominant near the sea lane entrances) have a lot of coded levers to go west.

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Voss wrote:
Cathay is... not surprising at all, except that they're adjacent.

I'm curious to see how active the AI will be on the sea lanes, otherwise that's a pretty hefty enclave for those two. (Eshin isn't that hard to crush early on).

But I'm not sure that the lizardmen (most likely to be dominant near the sea lane entrances) have a lot of coded levers to go west.


Greasus Goldtooth will likely be close as well, though he and Zhao Ming are hard coded with diplomacy bonuses toward each other. And as I mentioned before, it's rumored that The Changeling will get the old Tzeentch starting point. That would imply it will be one of the four lords added when 2.0 arrives. So five lords in that approximate area (including the Deathmaster). I'm also curious whether the "horde" mechanic from the base game will be used in IE.

The area is a bit isolated, though. Part of that is likely that room is being left for the Chaos Dwarves, who will be west of Cathay.

One other item worth noting - the two Cathay lords appear to be hard-coded to reject confederation with each other. Will this carry over to IE?
   
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Might also get a Chaos Warriors Lord in the lands north of Cathay?

Later on the Monkey King and maybe a Jade Vampire lord

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I'll be surprised if we get the Monkey King. The small amount of information available about him indicates that he resembles a giant monkey or ape (varying on the source), and leads an army of large primates. That would require an entirely new army. Not out of the question of course. But unlikely imo given how very localized they would be.
   
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To not include the Monkey King at this stage would be a grave disservice to Cathay as a faction.

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The Monkey King would be suitable penance for TWW3. Plus it could really just be a Beastman re-skin with a couple of random extra units for the crack.


EDIT: latest blog gives us other areas and LLs

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/tww3-ie-dedicated-factions/

Be'lakor starting on the Isle of Wights in Albion is interesting. But I'm far more interested in Grombrindal starting in Naggaroth. That could be a great campaign to play.

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Meanwhile, Skaven are up on the Twitter feed.

Yes-Yes. Skaven starting positions in Immortal Empires:

📍 Queek Headtaker - Misty Mountain
📍 Lord Skrolk - Sabatuun
📍 Tretch Craventail - Crookback Mountain
📍 Ikit Claw - Skavenblight
📍 Deathmaster Snikch - Xing Po
📍 Throt the Unclean - Hell Pit


Snikch in Cathay is as expected. There's one directly adjacent to Skarbrand, with a second a couple of territories over. And another is up next to Kislev.

On another note, it sounds as if Volkmar is out competing with the Tomb Kings.
   
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If you choose Vlad as your Legendary Lord, Isabella will be automatically unlocked as a hero and vice versa.


Wait, Isabella and Vlad now have a lord-hero relationship instead of a lord-lord relationship?

   
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
If you choose Vlad as your Legendary Lord, Isabella will be automatically unlocked as a hero and vice versa.


Wait, Isabella and Vlad now have a lord-hero relationship instead of a lord-lord relationship?



Makes their synergy bonus easier to get. IIRC, in the very early days of TW1, wasn't she a hero instead of a LL?


Glad to see Tretch someplace interesting (other skaven are where I'd expect, more or less).
Grombrindal just puzzles me. Feels like a move to fill in a hole left by moving someone else (Tretch in this case). While I like the Alberic move, he also feels like compensation for shifting teclis.


Like Belakor on Albion (there's a obscure campaign reference), but I'm surprised he's a Warriors of Chaos choice with daemons on top.
Sigvald is also getting slaanesh daemons, but it doesn't sound like Kholek is getting much.(if anything) in his roster.
Ghorst is still a non-entity. Wish they were less vague about these locations.
Volkmar still feels weird. Abandoning the empire to chase down rumors on another continent is not what I expect the Arch-Lector's campaign to be about.




As for the Monkey King: completely indifferent. The art and animation wouldn't be worthwhile, not for a reference to 'Cathayan lore' that's maybe a year old and mostly still un-shared in a design doc somewhere..

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Grombrindal hates the Dark Elves. Him heading off to take the fight to Malekith seems like a natural fit.

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Voss wrote:



As for the Monkey King: completely indifferent. The art and animation wouldn't be worthwhile, not for a reference to 'Cathayan lore' that's maybe a year old and mostly still un-shared in a design doc somewhere..


The Monkey King has been a part of Warhammer lore since at least the early 2000s?


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Voss wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
If you choose Vlad as your Legendary Lord, Isabella will be automatically unlocked as a hero and vice versa.


Wait, Isabella and Vlad now have a lord-hero relationship instead of a lord-lord relationship?



Makes their synergy bonus easier to get. IIRC, in the very early days of TW1, wasn't she a hero instead of a LL?


Was she? I dunno, I didn't play much TWW1 as I only bought it on sale shortly before TWW2 came out, in my memory they've always been Lords. Seems downgrading them to heroes will either have the effect of creating deathstar armies, or else their power level would need to be heavily reduced.
   
 
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