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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
At the expense of something else, sure. Not really a secret that their manufacturing capacity has been stretched.

GW's manufacturing capacity is nowhere near stretched and never has been, as nearly all of their products are cheap and easy to make, they're simply producing everything in tiny amounts, as always, so people rush to buy as much as possible as fast as possible.

If you read their publicly posted financial reports to the shareholders, their production was stretched before Corona. That's why they invested millions in a brand new factory (and land) at their HQ in the UK and also in a bigger warehousing system so that they could sift and sort and store far more stock (I assume so that they could do bigger bulk shipments overseas in one go). When Corona hit their new factory was just coming online; but at the same time they had several months of shutdown at the start of 2019 (during which time almost all GW stock was stripped from any retailer that was open and trading). Follow that up with Indomitus and a new edition year; increased demand through the whole pandemic and reduced staff in the warehouse and production facilities.

GW is 100% overloaded. Heck they added a "short stock" listing to their website and have had many many kits run out of stock over the year (some hardly get back in and they are out again). GW doesn't profit from not having stock to sell; they want stock to sell, but they cannot produce it fast enough. It will likely remain so until the UK can leave corona safe working practice

Looks like all the options are included!

This 291-piece plastic kit builds one Warmaster Heavy Battle Titan. It includes two arm-mounted Suzerain-class plasma destructors, one carapace-mounted revelator missile launcher, and a choice of apocalypse missile array, plasma blastgun, turbo laser destructor, inferno gun, melta cannon, and Vulcan mega-bolter for the two shoulder hardpoints.

Can the inferno guns even hit anything from there? :-)

They aren't carapace mounts, so dont have a minimum range issue.

Glad to see the arms, carapace, and heads on their own sprue. I want to know what they plan to give as other arms and carapace later on.

The battleforce box seems to come with terminals and cards, hopefully is the nice terminals. Same thought for the warbringer, if it's the thin card stock with the unpoked holes no fun.

Looks like there is an option for those short barrelled AA guns and knee weapons if you don’t fancy the pepper pots...

I wouldn't hold too much hope for the good terminals.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I wouldn't hold too much hope for the good terminals.

You're probably right :(

I wonder if those short barrel carapace guns are compatible with the warbringer?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I wonder if those short barrel carapace guns are compatible with the warbringer?

With a little hobby tinkering, they certainly could be!

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
They aren't carapace mounts, so dont have a minimum range issue.

Glad to see the arms, carapace, and heads on their own sprue. I want to know what they plan to give as other arms and carapace later on.

Was thinking about that. Nova cannons maybe? Starship lances?

Nova cannon fire shells the size of Titans. Fitting one to a Titan might prove problematic.

But I am very interested to see what options there are for magnetising the revelator launcher on the Warmaster.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Nova cannon fire shells the size of Titans. Fitting one to a Titan might prove problematic.

But I am very interested to see what options there are for magnetising the revelator launcher on the Warmaster.

It's what the Ordinatus Armageddon is equipped with:



Shouldn't be too much trouble for the Warmaster to power it

An amazing paint job from cult of paint on twitter. It makes me want one.

I kinda hope they limit main weapon variety for it. Leave serious flexibility to the original three chassis.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Nova cannon fire shells the size of Titans. Fitting one to a Titan might prove problematic.

But I am very interested to see what options there are for magnetising the revelator launcher on the Warmaster.

None, without a ton of work. It's built into the piece that makes up the top carapace.

For other arms, the warmaster is basically the intermediate step between the Warlord and Emperor. I can easily imagine the Plasma cannon on the Imperator being redesigned to match the Sunfury and Suzerain in style. A radial of 6 plasma coils around a centeral barrel would fit the progression and give it a more circular profile like the old Epic model. The other Emperor arms were the Hellstorm cannon which could be scaled down to the Warmaster as a Mega Gatling cannon, say at S 9 to fit the reaver to warlord gatling progression. Warmonger Emperor had a missile arm, but the revelator carapace mount sort of covers that. There is the Vengeance Cannon which was a twin barreled defense laser, so a Twin Belicosa on the Warmaster would be appropriate, or a heavier single barrel at S14. For the carapace, maybe a sort of siege mortar, like a shorter ranged Quake cannon with barrage?

Reviews up for Loyalist Legions on Sprues & Brews + Goonhammer. Some changes to Legio rules, Vox Blackout is now 3CP instead of 1CP, engine upgrades available, lots more lore - seems really nice.

Hopefully we're not waiting long for the Traitor one!

Specialist games seem to get about 1 release per quarter. Maybe June/July for Traitor book?

Anyone know how much it would cost to shop something like the Maniple box from UK to Aus. Comparing prices from local GW and something like Alchemist Workshop, it seems a no brainer to try and import it unless shipping is something stupid

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Anyone know how much it would cost to shop something like the Maniple box from UK to Aus. Comparing prices from local GW and something like Alchemist Workshop, it seems a no brainer to try and import it unless shipping is something stupid

It will be against their terms with GW to ship overseas

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Specialist games seem to get about 1 release per quarter. Maybe June/July for Traitor book?

Some Legios seem to have significant changes according to the Goonhammer review, so hopefully the Traitor book isn't too far behind.

Fingers crossed there's an Engine Kill article at the end of this month to announce it.

So does the Gryphonicus change also happen in the hardback rulebook, or they're just too lazy to reprint it? I think it's the latter.

 xttz wrote:
Some Legios seem to have significant changes according to the Goonhammer review, so hopefully the Traitor book isn't too far behind.

Fingers crossed there's an Engine Kill article at the end of this month to announce it.

Loves me hoping for improvements to Legio Krytos


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Also, Vortex Missiles are back! Oh boy, they're going to sell out of Reaver Warp Missiles now!

Chikout wrote:
An amazing paint job from cult of paint on twitter. It makes me want one.

This is why I paint plasma coils copper. It looks so much better than blue or some other primary colour imho. Brilliant work there.

Vortex missiles! 20pt upgrade for Warp Missiles, replace Warp with Vortex but, crucially, are always Limited (1) and this can’t be changed (for example with the custom Legio rules).

I'm really excited to see some of the titan upgrades going generic. Always annoying to have like 50 points left over with nothing to spend it on.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Vortex missiles! 20pt upgrade for Warp Missiles, replace Warp with Vortex but, crucially, are always Limited (1) and this can’t be changed (for example with the custom Legio rules).

Great excuse to make use of these:



They're dirt cheap on ebay

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I'm really excited to see some of the titan upgrades going generic. Always annoying to have like 50 points left over with nothing to spend it on.

Yeah it's been a long time coming, it will also help diffuse some of he jealousy/hate that custom legios got.

 zedmeister wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Vortex missiles! 20pt upgrade for Warp Missiles, replace Warp with Vortex but, crucially, are always Limited (1) and this can’t be changed (for example with the custom Legio rules).

Great excuse to make use of these:



They're dirt cheap on ebay

I've got 2, so watch out Knight players. Got the Warhammer nagic ones too and dreaming of Vortex (5")....

Got my Metalica transfers, Marshal Loss is going to play some loyalists!