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Just wondering if it was as good a bargain as the regular gothic building set. I got a gift certificate to the warstore and I am stuck between buying:

1. forge world imp fist termie shoulder pads
2. Pegasus Gothic buildings
3. Pegasus Gothic ruined buildings
4. ACTA Babylon 5 ships

Any help?

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If you liked the regular Gothic buildings there should be no reason not to like the ruined buildings.

And while it may not be terribly useful to you in PA, it should warm you heart to know that you are supporting a retailer (they have a physical store here in SoCal) that stocks/retail supports 40k product that even GW doesn't (Dark Eldar).

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Do you know if you get as much stuff in the ruined box?

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As I recall the ruined set is basically a more beat up version of the original Pegasus building-so I would say "as much stuff", although I think it may have had less interior flooring components on account of it being ruined. If you are comparing it to the City Building Large Set that TWS stocks, it may be slightly less stuff.

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Don't the ruined pieces go two levels high as well?


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Just read a review on the "ruins" over at Hasslefree... The box come swith 4 pieces that make 2 corners that are 2 stories high. That would be like 12 of the normal gothic building walls cut to be ruined. It also comes with what appears to be 2 "floor" pieces....

The basic pegasus box comes with 13 single wall pieces and 6 double wall pieces. Or lets just call it 25 single piece equivalents for $30. While the ruins box checks in at 12 single piece equivalents for $20.

The basic box seems to be a better value....$1.20 per single piece equivalents versus $1.66 per single piece equivalents.

If I get anything, it'll probably be the basic box. Not only do you get more wall for your $... but you also get the torches, gargoyles, etc...

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Please post a link I couldnt find the reviews page on Hasslefree.

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Orlanth wrote:Please post a link I couldnt find the reviews page on Hasslefree.


That's odd. I can't find it either. Here is a slight descripion of the contents....

http://www.thehobbybox.biz/prodtype.asp?cookiecheck=yes&PT_ID=651

Hope that helps.

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I bought the ruined building set as well as the regular set and they are the same thing just in the ruined set they have knocked bits off an weathered it a lot so in a way you do get less 'stuff' and if you really wanted you could buy the regular set and 'ruin' it yourself

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You can buy the normal buildings and damage them yourself. Quite harder to make the ruined building look intact.


 
   
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I found a video review -




I use all of the Pegasus buildings - the ruined bits are more useful when used with the other Gothic Building kits, and are completely compatible.

*EDIT* That said - it does work fine as a stand alone kit, and can be the start of a collection.

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The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
 
   
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Its a pair of two-story corners with corner floor remnants for each piece. They are actually pretty large as shown in the vid above. I love mine as it is not linked to any specific setting., even in a non-gothic setting it can be a church/cathedral.

Plus like above all the sets are completely compatible. And they are collapsible, and even without paint they are a decent grey.

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Looking from pictures they look very unrealistic. Well made, but whoever designed those have no idea how a building is constructed, especially a gothic stone building.

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 jorny wrote:
Looking from pictures they look very unrealistic. Well made, but whoever designed those have no idea how a building is constructed, especially a gothic stone building.
Because there is absolutely no way that a ruined cathedral could look anything like that in the real world....


Unless, of course, you are talking anyplace in Europe during WW I or WW II....

Image taken from the bombing of Coventry.

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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.

The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
 
   
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 TheAuldGrump wrote:
 jorny wrote:
Looking from pictures they look very unrealistic. Well made, but whoever designed those have no idea how a building is constructed, especially a gothic stone building.
Because there is absolutely no way that a ruined cathedral could look anything like that in the real world....
Unless, of course, you are talking anyplace in Europe during WW I or WW II....

Image taken from the bombing of Coventry.

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Well... The structure in the photo is a real one that is a clear example how a stone arch works, unlike the impossible ruins in the model. So I would say they look nothing like each other. Or are you saying that a stone arch can remain standing if you remove one side of it?

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 the clone wrote:
I bought the ruined building set as well as the regular set and they are the same thing just in the ruined set they have knocked bits off an weathered it a lot so in a way you do get less 'stuff' and if you really wanted you could buy the regular set and 'ruin' it yourself


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 jorny wrote:
 TheAuldGrump wrote:
 jorny wrote:
Looking from pictures they look very unrealistic. Well made, but whoever designed those have no idea how a building is constructed, especially a gothic stone building.
Because there is absolutely no way that a ruined cathedral could look anything like that in the real world....
Unless, of course, you are talking anyplace in Europe during WW I or WW II....

Image taken from the bombing of Coventry.

The Auld Grump


Well... The structure in the photo is a real one that is a clear example how a stone arch works, unlike the impossible ruins in the model. So I would say they look nothing like each other. Or are you saying that a stone arch can remain standing if you remove one side of it?


Having seen it in the real world, yes. Yes I am.

It will not last for long - years, not a whole lot of decades, and requires reinforced mortar (iron rod connecting the stones of the arch, held in place by and reinforcing the mortar).

Ironically, the only time it happens with genuinely old buildings is when they had to rebuild and reinforce a part of the structure before whatever cataclysm destroys the rest of the building.

In the case of the Coventry ruined church - look at the center right arch, seen end on - look for a better image online, if you need to. (That church had been partially destroyed in a fire during the time of Henry VIII - the repairs were, themselves, old.)

For added irony, they had to repair the ruins in the 1970s - that bit of semi-arch had fallen. (The Coventry Cathedral ruins are a Grade I Listed Building - and are being preserved in their current state.)

If you live in the UK then I strongly recommend that you visit the ruins at some point, just because they are nifty. (They can no longer be used to prove my point about the arch - the folks at the register don't want bits to fall off and hit tourists.)

A true arch relies on gravity to hold it together, but not all architectural arches are true arches. Sometimes they are just there to look good.

A semi-psuedo-sorta common place to find such reinforced arches is in structures that have been taken apart in Europe, then transported and rebuilt in the US. (Primarilly 19th and early 20th Century.)

Another semi common place where the partial arch is found is with Follies - which are sometimes structures intentionally built to appear derelict.

The question becomes 'how long have the ruins lasted in that current state?' rather than saying 'that can't happen!'

Because it can, and has.

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