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Correct, with split Foc. 1 hq, 1-3 troop, 0-1 of others, 0-1 extra for three others, or fortification. Don't get to hung up on that part, practice is practice.

Nice work on those figures Ramos. You are just amazingly prolific!

@Gits: Very much appreciated! Heh... this batch has been in the works for the better part of a month or so, so I needed to be rather efficient/quick with painting. I failed miserably, but I guess thats what happens


So. At long last, the Endless tides have receded, the armies beaten back and brought to heel.

In other words, IM DONE WITH THE HUGE BATCH OF ENDLESS!


Miasma Thralls


Dark Priest


Cleric (I was messing with my skin technique and ended up with a kinda Hispanic skintone. Wierd how it happened, but its neat)


And a Rhapsodist!



Finally, a group shot: Seriously theres like a billion models here....



WHEW!

So the endless stream of Endless minis has ceased (even though OTL just sent me another box... Nothing nearly as massive, though!), and after gaming with WM and Alf Saturday, I got nearly every single miniature and terrain piece for WM's army and our display... You guys seriously wont believe the amount of stuff...
I would pop a picture up, but its late and I cant be arsed Expect some tomorrow (or later, depending what happens with the current project) Also, no pictures for a battle report from Saturday's game, and Im not exactly the most elaborate bat-rep writer, so it'll prolly just be a cliffs notes version.


Anywho, this big group is done, so you know what that means.....


TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN TITAN

Glad you guys got a game in. Hopefully you took some pictures.

oh.. and excited to see more Titan action.

 Solar_lion wrote:
Glad you guys got a game in. Hopefully you took some pictures.

oh.. and excited to see more Titan action.

I believe he took a few pictures of the board as it was being set up, but we didn't get much/any of the actual game. I will say this, I facerolled them back and forth all over the table*


* - This may be a lie, in fact I was thoroughly stomped by turn 3, my dying words are, "Feth Heldrakes and Feth Psifleman Dreads". Also might I add that losing a unit of terminators in a single mishap really puts the kibosh on any chances of winning

I didnt take any pics. Had to many other things going on and I just forgot.

Alas, no pics of the battle. None of us really thought to do it until we were knee deep in marine corpses xD

A very abridged version of a battle report follows (mostly just highlights and the setup).

Setup was Dawn of War, with WM's GK Red Scorpions and my CSM Marines Errant on one side, and Alf playing 1k of his Ultras and WM's BA Red Scorpions from last year. Mission was the one with random-valued objectives.

Knights take first turn, and deploy first. The trio of Psyflemen Dreads take a position on top of a Skyshield, with the Terminators and Coteaz marching across the center of the board. ME Havoks with Autocannons set up to move into a building nearby (as it was JUST out of the deployment zone). Mark of Nurgle marines in Rhino drive up next to the GK Termis, and the blob of cultists march forward, bubblewrapping the Lord. Twin Drakes are in reserve.
Alf holds the BA termis in reserve, deploying the twin AC Razors in the corner of the board across from the blob of cultists. A trio of Ultra Rhinos deploy in the other corner. A lone Venerable Dread deploys in a fortification in the middle of the board.

Two of the ultra rhinos were dead in that first turn, thanks to Psyflemen. Cultists march on and rush through the ruins, managing to hide from the Assault Cannons. Pretty sure this is where my rhino blew up too.

Turn two, and both Drakes scream onto the board. They roast a metric ton of Marines, and even pop a razorback with a lucky baleflamer strike.
The razors fire at the cultists, picking off a few as they march forward. BA Librarian decides to stay at home, leaving the Termis to come in via deepstrike. They scatter into terrain, and mishap when they ended up too close to one of the Drakes. As would be expected from a Murphy's Law scenario, they are lost to the warp.

By turn 3, Alf was well and fully toast, the drakes and Psyflemen being the allstars of the game. Khorne Lord gets into combat with the second Razorback assault squad and annihilates the sergeant in a challenge. the rest of the cultists pile in and continue to muck about.

By then we called it, moving on to play zombicide, whereupon Chuck Norris proceeded to accumulate more kills than every other survivor -COMBINED-
We lost after too many zombies appeared and mobbed everyone (I had the last survivor, but she was useless xD )


Closing thoughts, Even though Alf's lists werent optimized, they helped to fine tune the list and showed me how stupid powerful the Drakes are!




Anyways, on to painting!
Today was a very shiny day as I started on the Titan's metal parts (for the third time)

First, I primed black, and sprayed VMC Gun Metal on all the parts. The natural masking provided by the many greeblies and other details created areas of shade and highlight, even from a single color!


Then I proceeded to highlight the metal areas with GW Ironbreaker, followed by a very sparse highlight of Mythril Silver. This was meant to amplify and accentuate the shadows and highlights from the base coat.


Finally, close ups of the head:


And guns.



Now at this stage, Im conflicted. In the many reference pictures I've been using, two schools of thought seem to exist.

The first is to leave the metals mostly unweathered, shaded simply with black/dark metal.


The second is to weather it, similar to this Titan by Next Level Painting


In particular he says he uses Reaper Harvest Brown (from what I can tell it looks like GW Vermin Brown) and black to shade.


I've seen it done both ways, so either is manageable (I think). As it stands, I can progress along the non-weathered route with the model as-is. I would of course add shading in the recesses, most likely an oil wash once the model gets some gloss varnish on it. My primary worry about weathering it is screwing up the metals I've got so far. I'd really hate to mess it up and have to respray this sucker -again-

That said, there is something to be gained from being bold... Though, I don't know what colors or kind of technique to use if I decide this route.

So what do you guys think? Weathered or no? And if I weather it, how should I go about it?

I would recommend that you try weathering that baby with oils. They look much better and the nice part is that you can wipe them off with mineral spirits and try again if you don't like the look of them. That's not so easy with water based ink washes that tend to run everywhere you don't want them and pool.

Unweathered. Unless going chaos, because what mars adept is going to fail in his job of maintaining a "god"? Plus me likely shines very much

I like the cleaner look of the 1st one. Some chipping on the armor is cool, but the second ones metals look straight up neglected. It's also got a very airbrushed look, which is kinda meh too.

Both are great examples. The first is very clean, I suspect it is so because the body and major plating is blued. Very in sync.
The other is using brown to transition the metal from the yellow. also very in syn to the colors they are using.

I'd try weathering a small amount and leaving the brightness of what you have already done. Adding a wash of blue tint/wash to the metal parts. Maybe not a total surfac wash; just in all the cracks or edges between the metal and plates. This might provide a good transition between the metal and the black and white color scheme.It also should allow more contrast between the shinyist metal of the "working" parts

Hopefully this make sense. Either way I look forward to seeing where you go.

Very interesting indeed... Definitely seeing more support for the "clean" version, so I'll be going with that line, then. A number of options are available to weather it, so Im going to ponder it. Oil washes. acrylic washes, ink washes, airbrushed shades... I may look into the Oil Discharge Ghost tint by Minitare. Coincidentally, Alf and me were talking about it during our drive to New Philly. Its supposedly a black tint, but has a bluish hue when it pools.
Ponder ponder....

@SL: Makes perfect sense to me. Its a good idea to have one shared color or tint across the model, especially with the size of this thing. REally makes the piece look cohesive.



So while mulling over the weathering aspect, I went ahead and worked on the black armor.



The carapace (not really this blue. The lighting and Photoshop brightened it a bit xD)


And a shin pad, giving a much better idea of the color.



Annoyingly enough, it would seem that the black paint Im using is a very very cold black, so by throwing white into it (or even a warm gray), it turns navy blue!
This limits me on how "bright" I can make the black areas, but I think i may have got something workable. As it stands now, the color is a very fine gradient from pure black at the edges to a bluish black at the highlights. It doesn't stand out very much at a distance (looks like a smooth black coat, simply due to the way light plays on it), but when you get close to it, the color starts to come out (as seen above). Im going to take a fine edge highlight of Adeptus Battlegrey to any sharp edges on the plates (really it looks like its just the toes) to make them pop out a bit more.

The plates will really start to shine when I put the gold trim on them.

Ramos, too bad you couldn't make it up to North Olmsted tonight I'm going to be hanging out at a store near there, I could bring my extra bottle of tint for you to have/try out

Bah! That'd of been great! Alas, Little bro had school today, so no car!
Another time, maybe? Might have to get another game in soon

 Ramos Asura wrote:
Closing thoughts, Even though Alf's lists werent optimized, they helped to fine tune the list and showed me how stupid powerful the Drakes are!

I'd like to point out that I've never had an optimized list in 40k because I'd rather have wins with models I find fun instead of models that everyone says are good. With that being said, my Chaos army is the closest thing to an optimized list I have, and that's missing its 2nd Heldrake

I will say this, I had fun, but I didn't stand a chance against your guys' armies, optimized or not. Flyers fething suck and vehicles are useless in 6th edition

Also I might have survived if we had remembered night fighting


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 Ramos Asura wrote:
Bah! That'd of been great! Alas, Little bro had school today, so no car!
Another time, maybe? Might have to get another game in soon

Sure, but I suggest a different game next time

You did use my adepticon list from last year, which did pretty well. Razorbacks scored 4 air kills over the 5 games, plus your own rifleman, so its not like you had nothing.

*note: Our lists are much tougher this year than last year.

I'll have to go back and take a look at your lists...

 whalemusic360 wrote:
You did use my adepticon list from last year, which did pretty well. Razorbacks scored 4 air kills over the 5 games, plus your own rifleman, so its not like you had nothing.

*note: Our lists are much tougher this year than last year.

True, but like all my experiences in 40k, someone else has better x than I do. My 1 dread was considerably weaker than your 3 dreads not only in the shots that they could put out, but the strength of each shot, and I chalk my bad generalship with the Red Scorps to not knowing the list. Like I completely forgot that I had a librarian until I saw him back in the foam and asked who he normally runs with (because I didn't give him Psychic powers either ). The Razers did what I wanted them too, just not for as long as I wanted them to. My plan with them was to weaken the marines and cultists and charge the lord with the two squads and the terminators. I thought that they would have been fine on that side of the board because I thought we would have night fighting (but forgot to bring it up >_< ). I mean there were lots of little mistakes I made. Like not rolling for that objective to get Skyfire until after I shot at Ramos's drake, which probably would have shredded it, not remembering night fighting, like not combat squadding my marines so the missile launchers could have hid in that Imperial line, like not putting Tigurius where he'd be effective, not putting my dread where I did (I should have put him in the shrine of the aquila in that back right corner). I should have hidden the rhinos behind that imperial strongpoint to get a cover save turn 1 and rushed the Grey Knights.

Lots of little things that cost me the game, but the lists you guys had were good, I knew going in I was probably going to lose.

As long as you dont make all the same mistakes next time you play, it was worth it.

 whalemusic360 wrote:
As long as you dont make all the same mistakes next time you play, it was worth it.

I always make the same mistakes, I don't play 40k enough. Though if it was my Chaos army, I'd have given you a better run for your money, I might have actually killed something
Even though I lost, it was still a fun game, which is rare for me with 40k.

At least you got to kill lots of zombies after!

 whalemusic360 wrote:
At least you got to kill lots of zombies after!

Agreed! Though not as much as you

It was definitely worth the trip down there, few hours of good gaming, damn good Mexican food, forge world goodies. We just need to get Ramos a car so he can start driving to game stores and play more.

We'll definitely have to figure something out then.... Maybe Ill actually play some Endless (too bad I dont have KD:Monster yet, or that'd be totally on the table!)


Anyways, yeah. Night fighting would have definitely given you some wiggle room, and forgetting that Skyfire Nexus -was- a really big mistake.
Live and learn, yeah? Next time, you'll be better prepared!


On the painting side of things, More progress: this time the White armor!





You know, for being one of my least favorite colors, it was surprisingly painless to get these parts to this stage. I never would have thought that black would be the biggest pain in the ass!

Im even more surprised that I was able to paint all the plates with my airbrush without masking anything- the soon to be gold trim acted as a great barrier from overspray. Really made the process quicker!

The colors I went with are from the Vallejo Model Air line, specifically White and Barley Gray. It behaved a bit differently than I anticipated.
20 drops of white and 4 of gray got me a slightly warm off white (surprising because the Barley Gray looks very cold), then a near 1:1 ratio got me the shade color, which looks similar to a blend of Codex and Fortress Grays.

Very nice Ramos. I think that'll look stellar!

Super good progress. Starting to really come together.

So untill I figure out the metallics on the Warhound, that bit of the project is up in the air.

Also, I am now pondering the Gold. I will be doing my usual gold technique with Vallejo Alcohol metallics, however I am not sure if I want to use the bottle I have (which is simply "gold") or order in what I think is a better color "Old Gold." The latter has a nicer overall tone when you first pop it down, as its not blindingly cold gold, it has a bit of warmth to it. I can compensate slightly for this if I use the bottle I have, but I really do like the tone of the Old Gold better.


So I spent a bit of today painting up the marines to go on the Titan's base. It really has been a long time since I've painted Red Scorpions!

Currently, they have all their grays, and are drying after the oil tint.


And the wounded Marine Errant (actually much brighter than he appears in the pic)



I had to mix up a new batch of the gray (well, enough to last these few models), and so Ive been giving consideration to preparing ne paints for them using Vallejo model Air paints. They mix and spray great, and from the looks of things should have the colors I need. Especially with the airbrush I want to move away from GW paints, as theyre more expensive than Vallejo equivalents, and thinning them consistently can be a pain.

The challenge now is figuring out what colors to use, as Ive little more than the color swatches on the Warstore to guide my choice.

I think I killed him under the mass of Adepticon junk. Now I'm in trouble!

Even in Death, I still Paint.
Got a lot to do and not much time to do it!

Heh. For whatever reason, the internets here went down for a couple days. Odd, but its come to be routine around this house.


Its been a while since I painted a marine, and it feels nice to get back to familiar territory. These guys went up quick! just have the downed Marine Errant, and the figures for the Titan base will be done!


Apothecary (head is separate till I figure out where hes gonna be looking. also, his light will be done in a bit.)


And the crazy RS dude charging forward: The decals suck.... Im remembering why i dont use them :/ Kept breaking, wouldnt stick, the colors in the print were offset... Im gonna battle scar the edges to make it blend in





Finally, alas poor S7 brush, i knew ye well.


And I think i need to retire this brush... After the millions of miles Ive put on it over the past month or two, it no longer holds anything close to a coherent point (or even tip!)

Anywho, its back to painting for me.
Thanks for reading!

Yep, I've got a series 7 that's been giving me fits... probably time to let it go.

There is a great brush field in the sky.