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 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
Campaign Book: Icarus was announced as officially released and has started shipping out. The article has a few tidbits. It is a great expansion, I think!

Does anyone have a list of the units covered? These trickle expansions are getting to be a pain.

Floris wrote:
The new issue of Dust Chronicles is now available for free download from http://www.dust-chronicles.com

God yes, thank you.


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Floris wrote:
The new issue of Dust Chronicles is now available for free download from http://www.dust-chronicles.com

There is no download link..


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 IdentifyZero wrote:

Floris wrote:
The new issue of Dust Chronicles is now available for free download from http://www.dust-chronicles.com

God yes, thank you.


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Floris wrote:
The new issue of Dust Chronicles is now available for free download from http://www.dust-chronicles.com

There is no download link..

Ok, now it showed up!

Wow the allies plane. Was looking forward to it but after seeing it I think I'll be getting a regular p-38 model kit instead.
The hortons pretty badass though.
I'm gonna hafta get the long Tom II as well I think. Let the axis hide in their bunkers as my heavy howitzer crawls up to the front door!!! Hope it can destroy fortifications or something cool like that.

I wonder if the SSU are going to be the only faction to get tracked vehicles?
Would love a halftrack, allied or axis. A little Bren gun carrier for the allies would be good too

Haven't seen a pic here yet, so:
http://store.fantasyflightgames.com/productdetails.cfm?SKU=DT065 ( $39.95 , "Preorder now!")

The Allies have been hard at work developing a means to meet the threat of Axis jets, and they've found their answer: the P-48. The P-48 Pelican is capable of taking off with a very short runway, making this light and versatile fighter very easy to deploy in any combat conditions. Triple Dual .50 cal machine guns give the Pelican a serious edge against enemies in the air and quickly eats through infantry. Fire rockets from afar with the Bellowing Bertie configuration, or bomb your enemies into oblivion with Diving Dotty. Both configurations offer effective damage against all enemy units but the heaviest of tanks.

I really wish they hadn't decided that all the aircraft needed to be Chibi style. The light and medium walkers are great, the buildings are great, the power armor is great. The Chibi aircraft are silly.

Justyn wrote:
I really wish they hadn't decided that all the aircraft needed to be Chibi style. The light and medium walkers are great, the buildings are great, the power armor is great. The Chibi aircraft are silly.

The axis aircraft is not chibi style.

 IdentifyZero wrote:

Justyn wrote:
I really wish they hadn't decided that all the aircraft needed to be Chibi style. The light and medium walkers are great, the buildings are great, the power armor is great. The Chibi aircraft are silly.

The axis aircraft is not chibi style.

Yea, only the Helos really are. The Pelican just has fat engines to handle its VSTOL thrusters on the underside. Otherwise, its looks like a P-38.

The Horten is essentially a Ma.K. Fledermaus, but not...


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 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
Campaign Book: Icarus was announced as officially released and has started shipping out. The article has a few tidbits. It is a great expansion, I think!

Does anyone have a list of the units covered? These trickle expansions are getting to be a pain.

Axis:
Panzerprinz (Hero)
Horten (2 Variants)
Ubertoten (2 Variants)

Allies:
USMC Teams (2 Variants)
Sergeant Victory (Superhero)
Support Walkers (3 Variants)
Pelican (2 Variants)

SSU:
Tractors (2 Variants)
SSU Teams (2 Variants)
KV Recovery Walkers (4 Variants)

Pretty sure that is everything in the book.

Well I kinda understand why they went a little chibi with the planes. I was at the hobby store today and a1:48 model of a p-38 is freaking huge to my eyes. Maybe I'm just not used to bring close to aircraft but it will dwarf a medium walker.Just seems like it will hog too much board.

I might actually get some 1:72 p-47's or typhoons. They come prepainted, very well done too. The scale difference would normally really bother me but in this case not. It's always hard to tell exactly how far away a plane is in the air right?

The only problem I see really is if it will look funny next the Horton, which I do want. And what to use for a flight stand too.

Thoughts?

 jedi76 wrote:
Well I kinda understand why they went a little chibi with the planes. I was at the hobby store today and a1:48 model of a p-38 is freaking huge to my eyes. Maybe I'm just not used to bring close to aircraft but it will dwarf a medium walker.Just seems like it will hog too much board.

Quite true, aircraft are quite large in life

Honestly I think its the scale issue. A Chopper to scale would probably require a box at least 30-50% larger. I'd imagine the dust people rather have a consistent box size for these items at the cost of more realistic proportions

It has been quiet on the front. Lately FFG has been pumping out the early announcements for upcoming stuff.....

I know - I'd expect to hear more on this seeing as DUST is very popular! ()

Plus there was that rumor/announcement of new units every month this year. I would expect a lot of activity about it.

Not to say I am complaining but I really do love seeing all the new goodies.

I knew something was up!!!!!

http://www.dustgame.com/news_d.php?id=147


BATTLEFRONT MINIATURES TO TAKE OVER DISTRIBUTION OF DUST TACTICS
Posted in May 2nd, 2013
May 2nd, 2013

Dust Studio today announced that Battlefront Miniatures will become its publishing and distribution partner for the Dust Tactics and Dust Warfare miniatures game lines. Fantasy Flight Games, Dust Studio’s current publishing partner for those games, will transition sales and marketing activity to Battlefront Miniatures on June 1st, 2013.

“Dust has had a wonderful few years, during which we have seen the game’s community grow exponentially,” said Dust creator Paolo Parente. “Both Dust Studio and Fantasy Flight Games have evolved
significantly during our relationship, and we now mutually feel that we are both better served by moving in new directions. Christian (CEO of Fantasy Flight Games) and I have known each other for many years, and I can say that this decision is a truly amicable one.”

Added John-Paul Brisigotti, CEO of Battlefront Group, “we are very excited by the Dust universe, and although it is a first for us to be distributing a product other than our own, the fit with our business model made this partnership something we could not resist. During the last few years, we have been moving into new avenues to expand the breadth of products the group offers, and we see DUST as another one of these ranges.”

“We’ve been fortunate to distribute Dust Tactics since its debut at GEN CON 2010, and we’re very proud of our development work on Dust Warfare,” said Christian T. Petersen, CEO of Fantasy Flight Games (FFG). “The last year, however, as FFG experienced phenomenal growth across many of our publishing categories, it became clear that Paolo and the Dust games would be better served by a partner who specializes in the unique business of miniature games. We’re confident that Paolo’s partner choice in Battlefront Miniatures is a
strong one, and we wish nothing but the best to them, to Paolo, and to the fantastic Dust fan community.”

Starting June 1st, Battlefront Miniatures will begin soliciting and distributing all new products for Dust Tactics and Dust Warfare. FFG will ship all of its previously solicited new products prior to that date, and FFG will continue to exclusively sell all current Dust Tactics and Dust Warfare items while its inventories last. While FFG will support the Dust Tactics and Dust Warfare regionals events in May and June 2013, all future marketing and organized play for the games will be handled by Battlefront Miniatures, including the scheduled GEN CON 2013 tournaments.

About Dust Studio:
Dust Studio Limited is a Hong Kong–based company that creates and manufactures the Dust Tactics miniatures line, as well as model kits and scenery together with various books and comic books about the Dust universe. For more information, visit www.dust-models.com

About Battlefront Miniatures:
Battlefront Miniatures Limited is a New Zealand–based company that created Flames of War, the WWII miniature game. Battlefront publishes the world’s premier tabletop gaming magazine Wargames Illustrated, and owns Gale Force Nine, the leading manufacturer of game accessories. For more information, visit Battlefront’s website at www.flamesofwar.com.

About Fantasy Flight Games:
Roseville, Minnesota’s Fantasy Flight Games is a publisher of board, card, miniatures, and roleplaying games. Founded in 1995 by Christian T. Petersen, Fantasy Flight Games has published hundreds of successful titles, including licensed products based on A Game of Thrones, The Lord of the Rings, and Star Wars, as well as many original board games such as Twilight Imperium, Arkham Horror, and Descent: Journeys in the Dark. For more information, contact FFG’s Anton Torres at atorres@fantasyflightgames.com.

Interesting. Glad dust has a good home. But of course my fear is a battlefront price hike
Maybe now they will be able to sync up dust tactics and warfare campaign releases. I hate waiting for the tabletop rules.

Don´t worry. There will be a modest price rise, but that was already in the planning way before this. Manufacturing reality has to be accepted and price rises are a fact of it these days.

 Duncan_Idaho wrote:
Don´t worry. There will be a modest price rise, but that was already in the planning way before this. Manufacturing reality has to be accepted and price rises are a fact of it these days.

I think the difference being that FFG can work in bulk-plastics at the factory level, which kept Dust Tactics/Warfare as one of the cheapest "big army" games to build/play.

Battlefront... well... on the plus side, I expect things like units shipping with DT/DW rules, and not just half of their rules on card. On the other hand, I fully expect a much higher MSRP, and much lower online discounts.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

 Duncan_Idaho wrote:
Don´t worry. There will be a modest price rise, but that was already in the planning way before this. Manufacturing reality has to be accepted and price rises are a fact of it these days.

I think the difference being that FFG can work in bulk-plastics at the factory level, which kept Dust Tactics/Warfare as one of the cheapest "big army" games to build/play.

Battlefront... well... on the plus side, I expect things like units shipping with DT/DW rules, and not just half of their rules on card. On the other hand, I fully expect a much higher MSRP, and much lower online discounts.

FFG didn't manufacture the models. That was Dust Models - FFG just distributed them. So, the cost increase is on the Dust Models end of things. If you have seen the latest releases though, you can see why. They are using a much better plastic now with greater detail. I am all for a small increase for that, versus GW's money grabs, for instance.

Also, Battlefront will not be packaging or making the models either. That is Dust Models. So hoping for DT/DW rules in one box or anything is unlikely, unless Dust Models wants to do it.

On a last note, with GF9 involved, maybe we will see token sets, cards, and dice, etc. Eventually, too, maybe a 15mm FoW-compatible Dust expansion.

News:

"PHOENIX, AZ (May 6, 2013) — Dust Devils International (DDI) named managing body of the Dust World Coalition (DWC), the next generation play association for Dust Tactics and Dust Warfare. This announcement follows the truly epic news of Dust Studio joining forces with Battlefront, a partnership that brings together the best in DieselPunk WWII and Historical WWII miniatures gaming. Groundbreaking in its “grass roots” fan-organized structure, DDI brings a variety of innovative new elements to the DWC, significantly enhancing what has traditionally been referred to as “Organized Play”. ”I’m very proud that Dust has such a passionate fan base,” shares Paolo Parente the creator of Dust, “This is why it is very important to all of us at Dust Studio and to me personally that the Dust World Coalition is managed by the fans.”

Many of these fans are in fact Semi-Pros, having run large-scale events, tournaments, clubs, fan magazines, forums, and more. “We’re excited to bring together an International team that combines a passion for the world of Dust with a broad range of skill sets to create a very successful play organization with a very different approach,” says Rick Ivansek, Co-Founder of the Dust Devils International (DDI).

Floris Hussarts, DDI Front Leader for the UK, elaborates further, “Over the last few years there have been many events and tournaments for Dust Tactics and Dust Warfare, ranging from small groups of players meeting for a game of Dust at a friend’s house to multi-day tournaments with special guests and Dust previews. The leadership and members of Dust Devils International, have enjoyed each and every one of these events, and going forward we want to see more of them. The Dust Devils will be taking on Organised Play for both Dust Tactics and Dust Warfare and we will be supporting the Dust Community in a variety of ways.”

Organizational structure will be based on clubs, called Posts, which will be organized into regions, called Fronts. Retailers will have the option of becoming a PX. For a small membership fee, recruits will receive a rank in the organization, exclusive swag, and the ability to participate in Official Actions. Official Actions include Recruitment (Demos and Member Drives), Campaigns (League Play), and Offensives (Tournaments at the Post, Front, and World level). DDI will also host Dust World Expo, the annual International celebration of all things Dust.

All activities officially begin on July 1st, 2013, but watch the official Web site at http://www.Dust-Devils.com for more information as it becomes available. If you are a fan of Paolo Parente’s Dust, you’ll want to be part of the Dust World Coalition. Dust Devils – Form Up!"

Justyn wrote:
I really wish they hadn't decided that all the aircraft needed to be Chibi style. The light and medium walkers are great, the buildings are great, the power armor is great. The Chibi aircraft are silly.

Maybe they are smaller to simulate the size they would appear from the perspective of the ground forces?

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

 Duncan_Idaho wrote:
Don´t worry. There will be a modest price rise, but that was already in the planning way before this. Manufacturing reality has to be accepted and price rises are a fact of it these days.

I think the difference being that FFG can work in bulk-plastics at the factory level, which kept Dust Tactics/Warfare as one of the cheapest "big army" games to build/play.
Battlefront... well... on the plus side, I expect things like units shipping with DT/DW rules, and not just half of their rules on card. On the other hand, I fully expect a much higher MSRP, and much lower online discounts.

Ah crap. Looks like I need to buy up some Dust stuff before Battlefront get their hooks fully into it and the local price jumps disproportionately and the discounts disappear. BF aren't nearly as bad as GW, but they're a solid second on price gouging the Aussie market.

 Azazelx wrote:
BF aren't nearly as bad as GW, but they're a solid second on price gouging the Aussie market.

Wait, even the Kiwis price gouge Aussies?

Flames of War is rather expensive, in some cases rivaling GW's prices around here.

robertsjf wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
BF aren't nearly as bad as GW, but they're a solid second on price gouging the Aussie market.

Wait, even the Kiwis price gouge Aussies?

Yeah. Sadly it's a lot cheaper for me to buy FoW stuff from the UK. Go figure.

From what I hear, no one is raising prices. There may be a discount cap, but that I don't know about yet. At the least, it encourages folks to buy locally at LGS, which keeps out brick & mortar folks going, so I am for it.

I reckon I'll go with what Duncan has said about a price rise. I may often disagree with his opinion, but he's usually good on things like this. My local store doesn't stock Dust, and the other semi-local places both do net.sales with 20% off, so I buy from them.

FoW might be a little bit expensive, but you get tons of free stuff over their website and you get alle the stuff from one source. Qualitywise they are better than most of their competitors....

It's the regional price gouging that I dislike, Duncan. It's not as bad as GW, but it's worse than any other manufacturer/producer.

I'd also suggest that PSC vehicles are pretty much better than BF resin, even without the large price discrepancy.


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 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
From what I hear, no one is raising prices. There may be a discount cap, but that I don't know about yet. At the least, it encourages folks to buy locally at LGS, which keeps out brick & mortar folks going, so I am for it.

Here's the rub. With the 10% discount cap in place everywhere but the 20% pricing disparity between AU and UK prices, it's cheaper for me to buy BF/FoW product from the UK than from the shop down the road or a local mail order place. At the moment, I buy my Dust stuff from a local mail order place since it's almost the same as buying from the UK.

BF's plastics are quite crummy, or at least their starter plastics are. They got a way to go before they're on the par with GW or the PSC.

As a fellow Australian... the price hikes on Dust stuff here is just as bad as GW:
SSU Commissar squad = $32 retail in Aus.
But looking overseas 15 GBP ($22 Aus) or $20 USD... even better with discounts.
I'm tentatively looking forward to this ... perhaps it can breathe some life into Dust in my area as it never took off.

It's the regional price gouging that I dislike, Duncan. It's not as bad as GW, but it's worse than any other manufacturer/producer.

I prefer it, this way it was interesting for German retailers to again have BF on their shelves. Before the price leveling the did not have a chance competing with UK shops. AUS is the usual exception from the rule. AUS for some reason seems to get higher prices from nearly every company. Could it be possible that some AUs laws make it harder for companies getting stuff to AUS? If it was just 2-3 companies I would not wonder, but it seems nearly veryone does it.

I'd also suggest that PSC vehicles are pretty much better than BF resin, even without the large price discrepancy.

finer detail, but way more difficult to handle for fear of breaking them. BF are quite sturdier.