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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/11 20:01:47
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Awesome Thunderwolves, San...
Nice contrasts, crisp colours... Love'em !
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My WiP -affiliated Traitors - War on Tranch : Renegades
The World Tree's offsprings - Various WIPs : Skavens, Tzeentch & Nurgle CSMs, Marine Swap
My first tutorial - Object Source Lighting
What will I achieve in 7 months? : Radio Omid is online
"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
"Now you're just being silly, everyone knows red paint tastes fasta." - monkeytroll
"Both servers are on different continents so space meteors or thermonuclear war will not be enough take out dakka hopefully." - legoburner
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/11 20:57:49
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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Thanks Littletower and Yggdrasil, I really appreciate it
Decided to take a leaf from you Ygg and weather the tau.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2013/12/11 21:18:13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/12 18:37:15
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sure, go ahead !!!
I think it works best with dark grey or dark brown than black...
Let me know how it goes !
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My WiP -affiliated Traitors - War on Tranch : Renegades
The World Tree's offsprings - Various WIPs : Skavens, Tzeentch & Nurgle CSMs, Marine Swap
My first tutorial - Object Source Lighting
What will I achieve in 7 months? : Radio Omid is online
"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
"Now you're just being silly, everyone knows red paint tastes fasta." - monkeytroll
"Both servers are on different continents so space meteors or thermonuclear war will not be enough take out dakka hopefully." - legoburner
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/12 19:26:51
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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I agree, been using charadon grey (?) so far
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/12 21:37:13
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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'Twas Charadon GrANITE
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My WiP -affiliated Traitors - War on Tranch : Renegades
The World Tree's offsprings - Various WIPs : Skavens, Tzeentch & Nurgle CSMs, Marine Swap
My first tutorial - Object Source Lighting
What will I achieve in 7 months? : Radio Omid is online
"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
"Now you're just being silly, everyone knows red paint tastes fasta." - monkeytroll
"Both servers are on different continents so space meteors or thermonuclear war will not be enough take out dakka hopefully." - legoburner
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 06:20:34
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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Haha, of course!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/27 10:02:46
Subject: Re:San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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Its been a while since i painted yellow, so i thought for my next project i should get back to the Fists. I picked up the Mk IV outrider squadron from Forgeworld a ways back, so i thought they might be a cool project to test a few new techniques on. trying for an increase in overall speed and weathering techniques on this one.
In an effort to actually finish a vehicle I'm going to try and post quite a few WIP shots. my apologies in advance if some of the updates are fairly mundane.
anyways, first up here is the test bike blocked in yellow. i decided to try and paint him mostly assembled for once - normally i paint the models in parts which is great for access but is harder on storage and frankly, i suspect i end up taking longer. we shall see...if it gets too frustrating i might try and get him off the bike. The colour in this photo is pretty much right (sadly, the camera phone white balance in some of the others isn't as good).
so, given i want to use oils on this guy (which will involve pre and post varnishing) i sat down and tried to work out a schedule of steps post block colour. first things off the block are some stripes (cause i cant resist the chance to make a bumble bee) and some paint chips. to weather the black stripes i shamelessly copied Yggdrasil and sponged some liquid mask on before laying down the black. it worked ok...i think it might have worked better if i had sprayed the stripes rather than painted them with a brush..
the varnish is drying at the moment....then onto oils for shading and weathering! a bit nervous but fingers crossed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/27 10:08:30
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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yay more yellow! :-) that looks great already damn you! *shakes fist* looking forward to watching this progress, techniques I won't try but am very intrigued by!
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Flesh Eaters 4,500 points
" I will constantly have those in my head telling me how lazy and ugly and whorish I am. You sir, are a true friend " - KingCracker
"Nah, I'm just way too lazy to stand up so I keep sitting and paint" - Sigur
"I think the NMM technique with metals is just MNMM. Same sound I make while eating a good pizza" - Whalemusic360 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/27 10:11:34
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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haha cheers Nerdy. the stripe isnt too naff? i know its not very imperium (cause its not a skull) but it was just crying out for racing stripes....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/27 10:23:36
Subject: Re:San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Mighty Gouge-Horn
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No san! it would have been a crime not to make it a bee!!! Its awesome!!! I am really looking forwards to seeing the results you get from the oil washes, been tempted to try it myself a few times now, but not quite brave enough!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/27 14:30:53
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Really like that bike... where'd it come from?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/27 14:46:06
Subject: Re:San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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Thanks Gits, you can grab them at Forgeworld ( http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/LEGION_MKIV_OUTRIDER_SQUADRON.html).
Well progress this afternoon. I hit up the oils for both the pin striping/recesses and to do some weathering.as you can see my plan to paint the model assembled didn't last long...
I have only worked with oils once before (on part off land raider which is looking at me reproachfully from the cupboard) so it took a bit to get going again.
I found the oil great for doing the recesses. Because the oil doesn't dry for sometime it was very easy to clean up. In fact, I need up washing the entire model and the cleaning the oil off of the armour plates. This changed the hue slightly and seemed to incorporate the striping better. I think it is mor the grim dark end of the imperial fists spectrum, but I'm happy with that.
So, enough preamble...the update photo (sorry it's so dark).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/27 15:34:32
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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Excellent. I use the oil technique all the time now on my Lamenters. I use a Sepia oil paint as I Like the red/ brown look over the black. I think that it helps transition the Yellow better to the darker resess. I also think it blends in well the bronze/ tin/ brass and other metals used on my pipes and engine parts. You also should consider finding some accents to paint that arn't so complemtary. Such as Purity seals. These are great for breaking up the simular color pallet. Using bright red, whites or even Light green or even purple ( Yellows opposite color on the wheel) are all good. Search " Johnnyhorse" 's Lamenters. He uses Green Purity seals that I thinkshow what I talking about.
The black strips look great. I wouldn't worry about using a brush on it if your intending to " weather" it. I think the contrast would look to clean for a bike that has been put through its paces.
My problem also is time. You have to let things dry and I'm alway wanting to move to the next step.
Amazing work as always! Pretty soon your gonna have enough figures to actually play the game!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/27 15:51:03
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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Hehe well, to be honest I've played a few games now. Enough to fear Longfangs
Thanks for your kind words. I used a burnt umber oil paint on this guy, I have a sepia though...perhaps I will try that next time.
The waiting is a pain, though I've found that since I got airbrush ready gloss varnish I'm far more inclined to go through the while process. It still takes a while to dry, but it takes no time to apply and is a nice thin coat
As for other colours, I definitely know what you mean. Will be looking to break up the colour of the bike once I get past the armour plates. I have seen johnny horse's work and it is awesome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/27 16:13:10
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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I'll have to try Brurnt Umber. Seems like it's a touch darker.Might be better for me as well . Thanks for sharing!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/27 16:16:30
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Well, I've heard SM bikes are all the rage now as troop units (with the appropriate chapter tactics to make them scoring). So you're going to have not only cool but functional units as well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/27 16:43:52
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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Really? Well that's some welcome news!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/28 16:34:22
Subject: Re:San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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Sadly, very little progress made today but I'm trying to stick to my commitment to regular updates. Got some of the first coat for the metals down, that's about it. Decided to make the bolts steel instead of yellow - just wanted to break up some of the panels.
Have opted for the red bolters to tie in with many of my marines. Still just undercoats at this stage. i want to incorporate some copper tones. I know really it wouldn't be the right material, but colour wise I think some of the pipes might look good as a light copper. If anyone has any advice I'm all ears.
Also, got to use the metallic black that nerdfest so kindly donated. It doesn't show in the pics but it's pretty cool. Used it on the handle bars, the magazine casing and some other engine. Just to offer a different base tone than the led belcher (a paint I loathe.....I miss the old bolt gun metal).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/28 16:44:03
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I like them a lot. Man you've got me thinking about bikes now da*n you!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/28 16:50:24
Subject: Re:San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Wow that looks fantastic. It looks like a few more steps then my yellow for my fists. Here is a contemptor comparison, although yours greatly outshines mine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/28 16:58:37
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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Cheers Gits....you know...these would look great with orks....
@GaussGuy - your're very kind, but the shade of yellow we are both using looks pretty similar to me  is the contemptor fun to paint? Been thinking of getting one....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/28 17:01:15
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Irked Necron Immortal
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San76 wrote:Cheers Gits....you know...these would look great with orks....
@GaussGuy - your're very kind, but the shade of yellow we are both using looks pretty similar to me  is the contemptor fun to paint? Been thinking of getting one....
It is very easy with the large surfaces and easy to magnetize. I would HIGHLY recommend an air brush as with large surfaces you can't hide the strokes as easy but I did do that on with a brush. All you need is a plan for the metal and it comes together very easily.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/28 17:13:21
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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Hmmm...tempting....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/28 20:20:47
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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Nice stuff. Love the akira like bike. Its a great model. Your a yellow master san. And i mean that in the good way  And i hear you with leadbelcher. it. SUCKS. GW is the only company i can think of that purposefully worsens their product and then charges more for it. Them and EA might just be the two worst companies for nerds around the world
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/28 22:06:04
Subject: Re:San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Just found this thread San and I'd like to add my admiration for your IF's - your yellows are very nicely done! Makes me wonder whether I should invest in an airbrush...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/29 02:38:25
Subject: Re:San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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@bebop - cheers mate! glad its not just me with the leadbelcher...to be fair their golden yellow and gryphonne sepia replacements were pretty good...just the metal one...urgh..anyone got any tips on an alternative im all ears.
@Phutarf - many thanks and welcome aboard  i can not recommend an airbrush strongly enough. especially for yellow, but for any colour really. you can get some nice brushes relatively cheaply and they make such a difference. not compulsory by any means, but i do hug mine from time to time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/29 02:47:37
Subject: Re:San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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San76 wrote:@bebop - cheers mate! glad its not just me with the leadbelcher...to be fair their golden yellow and gryphonne sepia replacements were pretty good...just the metal one...urgh..anyone got any tips on an alternative im all ears.
NMM? lol. Or seek out vintage metals.
BB
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 08:41:16
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wow, great job on the outrider bike, San !!!
The stripe looks better than mine uh  though I think it would probably have been even better with your airbrush.
And the weathering is top notch ! Keep it up !
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My WiP -affiliated Traitors - War on Tranch : Renegades
The World Tree's offsprings - Various WIPs : Skavens, Tzeentch & Nurgle CSMs, Marine Swap
My first tutorial - Object Source Lighting
What will I achieve in 7 months? : Radio Omid is online
"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
"Now you're just being silly, everyone knows red paint tastes fasta." - monkeytroll
"Both servers are on different continents so space meteors or thermonuclear war will not be enough take out dakka hopefully." - legoburner
Please remember to tick the "Disable Voting" box, if the pics you are uploading do not deserve votes (ie. early WIP, blurry pics, batreps, ...) Thanks in advance. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 16:31:12
Subject: Re:San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Dakka Veteran
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Thanks very much Ygg. I think it might have been better with the airbrush, just because when I put the coat on with a regular brush the acrylic black paint formed a thicker skin that caused problems when I went to remove the liquid mask. Also, if I had thought about it I could have sprayed a highlight. Ahh well.
So today's update: did some work on the metals. Got the main exhaust pipe to look a bit brighter (though of course, it's getting weathered anyways.
have decided to go for a brown leather seat, you can't see much of it when the guy is on the bike and it seemed to fit colour wise. Just blocked in at the moment. Added decals to the trooper (pictured for the first time since I removed him from the bike).
More excitingly, started work on the console. I haven't painted many of these....so we shall see. Have decided to go for a mix of greens and blues....all green or all blue seemed a bit boring. Have painted the two green screens so far, which took me a surprisingly long time. Hopefully it doesn't end up looking like Xmas lights
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 16:37:30
Subject: San's (mostly) loyalists blog of Imperial Fists, Grey Knights and Imperial Guard.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Looking great San... keep plugging away!
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