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Kroothawk wrote:

Eilif wrote:It's very similar to a line of vehicles and suits that appeared in kits under the names Maschinen Krieger
and SF3D.

I think it is obvious that this specific model was the "inspiration" for the Defiance games model. Maschinenkrieger is for alternative WW2 design what Star Wars is for SciFi.

Alex Iglesias, the guy who did the design Defiance licensed, did admit as much, yes. A long, long time ago, that particular piece of art was very popular on the Wargames Factory boards as inspiration for a hypothetical powered armor suit, and so it got licensed by Defiance.

A picture of a pile of German parts showed up on Facebook. Supposedly all Bugs are to be out by end of next week. It's looking good for a slight acceleration of production on those kits.

Still can't bring myself to cheer for a swamp worm. Unless it's a mongolian death worm...

Xeno wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:

Eilif wrote:It's very similar to a line of vehicles and suits that appeared in kits under the names Maschinen Krieger
and SF3D.

I think it is obvious that this specific model was the "inspiration" for the Defiance games model. Maschinenkrieger is for alternative WW2 design what Star Wars is for SciFi.

Alex Iglesias, the guy who did the design Defiance licensed, did admit as much, yes. A long, long time ago, that particular piece of art was very popular on the Wargames Factory boards as inspiration for a hypothetical powered armor suit, and so it got licensed by Defiance.

That's where I remember seeing that design! I was quite active on the WGF boards until the massive letdown that was the Greatcoat Troopers heavy weapons and officers kit.

having just assembled that kit, I know what you mean. I can't find the gumption to paint them. The miniguns are cool, but the rest is so meh.

I think that when they finally release those hard suits, I will be buying them in tons to make a beautyfull somewing for 40k.

I'm going to get a squad of the suits to add to my ventauran army.
Half of which you can see here:

I've got 3 Tau stealth suits that I was going to use, but I'll probably just trade those away if these are as good as I'm hoping. Besides, 8 is better than 3, yes?

Then I'll have all the bases covered
Light Infantry- Khiff: dogmen in cloaks
Heavy Infantry- Body Armored Ventaurans
Light Vehicles- Defiance Hard Suits
Heavy Vehicle- Large mech converted from Gasaraki model

More news:

Pictures of the "Aleutian Swamp Worms" have been posted.

It has been confirmed with the picture of a UAMC hardsuit MLRS that the pilot's arms are in the torso.

And some pictures have been posted of the finished PZG.

Now that is an update worth reading about.

I love the early sci-fi aesthetic of those swamp worms. So damn creepy.

I like the finished PGs as well.

I think this is the box set I use for making a force for Infinity. One box and I can play huge games with basic troopers. Conversions shouldn't be too hard to make specialists like hackers and the like.

AlexHolker wrote:More news...

It has been confirmed with the picture of a UAMC hardsuit MLRS that the pilot's arms are in the torso.

And some pictures have been posted of the finished PZG.

This is a really nice addition to the hardsuit kit!

I wonder how many will come with the kit?

It will probably also prove to be a really great bit for conversions of other models. This model is proving far more enticing to me than any other recent sci-fi gaming kit.

They've actually posted a bumper crop of images, including this on Facebook:




For those who wanted to weapons separate, looks like you just got your wish!

The swamp worms look remarkably similar to creatures in Peter Jackson's King Kong movie - not that that's a bad thing

Pre-orders on the PZG have gone up, with a machine-gunner model as a pre-order bonus.

Also, recent information about the Swamp Worms and Hardsuits has debunked this list.

I will definitely buy a few hardsuits - to use in Bomb Squads for my Adeptus Arbites...





Also, the Swamp Worms will make excellent terrain (for 40k Carnivouros jungle etc.).

I like the worms. Any word on price?

spaceelf wrote:I like the worms. Any word on price?

Probably 8 for $30.

really liking the PZGs. those arms are badass and can be used for soooooo many conversions! these guys are getting it together



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plus those hardsuits would make great cougar exosuits for starship troopers



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Plus those hardsuits would make great Cougar suits for starship troopers

With the Dreamforge Games Kickstarter, I think I'll have to wait until the female marines are out to buy the rest of my infantry. Although I will miss out on the pre-order bonus, it'll make more financial sense.

 frozenwastes wrote:
Now that is an update worth reading about.

I love the early sci-fi aesthetic of those swamp worms. So damn creepy.

I like the finished PGs as well.

I think this is the box set I use for making a force for Infinity. One box and I can play huge games with basic troopers. Conversions shouldn't be too hard to make specialists like hackers and the like.

Couldn't agree more. I'm thinking that they would be great for Concilium troopers for scenarios. I imagine they'd have some sort of NATO-like armed forces.

 kendoka wrote:

Humpty Dumpty from the future?

 Skarwael wrote:

 kendoka wrote:

Humpty Dumpty from the future?

Coming this summer... in 3D!

Humpty is back... and this time all the King's horses and all the King's man won't be able to put YOU back together again!

 kendoka wrote:
I will definitely buy a few hardsuits - to use in Bomb Squads for my Adeptus Arbites...

I like how the dude with the massive protective bib doesn't even wear gloves. I know manual dexterity must be at a premium in tense situations such as cutting only a single wire with three seconds left on the clock (call me romantic), but I would feel incredible exposed.

See, I love my hands, and they love me back.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Coming this summer... in 3D!
Humpty is back... and this time all the King's horses and all the King's man won't be able to put YOU back together again!

Is it a kit?

Now I can't see the miniature without seeing the egg face with a huge grinning mouth and small eyes at the top

 kendoka wrote:

Also, the Swamp Worms will make excellent terrain (for 40k Carnivouros jungle etc.).

Those worms look really cool, I love the idea that the marines will be fighting a lot of random alien monsters. They remind me of the 40k create-a-creature in White Dwarf 5 or 6 years ago. They'll make awesome random encounter nasties.

But those bases are KILLING me! Those are the 30mm pre-textured ones that come with the bugs box, and it sets my basing OCD into Maximum Overdrive. The texture is fine, sand can cover that, but the thickness is different from the marine bases and the angle of the bevel is completely different. The ONE thing that unifies models more than anything else is basing. More than color schemes or which company produces them. The worms are supposedly going to use 40mm bases, I really hope they match the marines. Same for the hardsuits.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Now I can't see the miniature without seeing the egg face with a huge grinning mouth and small eyes at the top

DAMN YOU!

Now that is all I see!

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Coming this summer... in 3D!
Humpty is back... and this time all the King's horses and all the King's man won't be able to put YOU back together again!

Is it a kit?

Now I can't see the miniature without seeing the egg face with a huge grinning mouth and small eyes at the top

What has been seen cannot be unseen. Dammit. It's like the arrow in the Fedex logo or the "Huge head, tiny body" of Cnl. Sanders.

That harsuit now looks like an inbred hippo. Imbécile heureux is what we'd say in French.

Not really a fan of the worms.. dunno why, they just don't do it for me. Love the hard suit but I'm gonna be hesitant to preorder stuffs now since I'm still waiting on my box of bugs from May :(

Any word on the size/height of the hard suits, or did I miss it? would they work as a counts-as ogryn? or maybe even sentinel?

I doubt they're bigger than terminators/ogryns so no on the sentinel


Looks kinda funny without arms

 Necros wrote:
I'm still waiting on my box of bugs from May :(

That is shocking!!! After the delays in the Marines, you thought they would have learned something...

Saxon wrote:

 Necros wrote:
I'm still waiting on my box of bugs from May :(

That is shocking!!! After the delays in the Marines, you thought they would have learned something...

I eventually the bugs, germans, and hardsuits will all ship at the same time

So unless there s a really good incentive, I'd avoid pre ordering

I can't help but be the impatient minis hoarder that I am, but being on their side of the fence I know it takes 100x longer than you planned to make anything worthwhile. Not really complaining .. just anxious

I'll probably do the hard suits as ogryns then. Planning out my high tech guard army.. sedition wars guys for the troops, these hard suits for ogryns, secret weapon's 6-wheeler for my tanks, a dreamforge plastic titan for a warhound, and micropanzer walkers as sentinels