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 Kalamadea wrote:
Quick photoshop, I think I'll be mounting the missiles underslung, maybe add something from the bitz box to cover the shoulders

Much better



But I raise you!

Yeah even though the other models don't appeal to me. The hard suits kinda work on a soft spot I have for MA.K. it does seem as if the 3D Guy did a good job. Now the test is if its modular. Might be a nice piece. I concede that.

I have to say I like the Defiance hard suits compared to the Antenocities one. Just something about a big egg on legs I love. And placing the arms as underslung makes a lot more sense, especially since they could at least allow a better center of gravity, as well as letting them push against them in case it falls over.

Thinking the new Mantic Enforcers plus these hardsuits would make good 40k Marines. Enforcers for the regular marines, hardsuits for the terminators.

I'm not surprised the same artist did both the Antenociti and Defiance hardsuits. They both look great. It also looks like there's a lot of conversion potential given those missile pod photoshops.

My local store can get Defiance stuff in, so I won't be preordering anything. If I wanted to have a huge wait between paying for the product and getting it, I'd find a Kickstarter to support.

 kenshin620 wrote:

 Kalamadea wrote:
Quick photoshop, I think I'll be mounting the missiles underslung, maybe add something from the bitz box to cover the shoulders

Much better



But I raise you!

That my friend is excellent,

You just sold some hard suits as soon as defiance has them listed
(despite my fears of a long wait)

grab yourself some comission from them LOL

Ehhh I think the paintjob they did on the worms could be better. They look way too much like a toy you get as some toy store




When I think of man eating worms, the reaper one comes to mind

I know it would be extra gross, but I'd paint those worms mostly in different flesh tones. The teeth and gums already have an "eww" factor, but I don't think the rest of the body works in superman colours.

The worms don't really interest me anywhere near as much as the other models do. I think it has more to do with their design than the sculpting quality. If I was doing some RPG or convention games I'd probably grab a few though; they'd be fun random baddies.

Frozen wastes: If you're looking for a kickstarter to support... mayhaps the Dreamforge one might be to your liking?

I think the Antenociti hardsuits have too much going on, the arms are super long and the cockpit looks smaller to my eye, so I give my definitive vote to Defiance. If they can put them on the market.

Also, wouldn't standing up in such a position require a skeleton and a lot of muscular effort, which would be premium resources that a worm doesn't have? So are they aleutian swamp snakes?

The hardsuits look great- underslung missiles is definitely the way to go. Quad missiles is AWESOME!

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 Kalamadea wrote:
Quick photoshop, I think I'll be mounting the missiles underslung, maybe add something from the bitz box to cover the shoulders

That looks excellent!

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
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That looks excellent!

They will look great alongside the new mantic enforcers.

 Kalamadea wrote:
Quick photoshop, I think I'll be mounting the missiles underslung, maybe add something from the bitz box to cover the shoulders

Now that looks alot better, good enough that I wouldn't add the traditional arms to the model that I mentioned earlier.

brettz123 wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
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That looks excellent!

I like the hardsuits. Probably looks good next to space marines.

These will probably also work great as light walkers in 15mm. The bugs turned out really good for 15mm scale as well.

 frozenwastes wrote:
These will probably also work great as light walkers in 15mm. The bugs turned out really good for 15mm scale as well.

I think it would work better as a 15mm scale walker. The main problem with the model is that an arms-in-torso mech that small is frankly stupid. Scale it up to the point where it's got room for a proper cockpit and the control system becomes both more effective and more necessary.

I have removed all of the off-topic nonsense from the last couple of pages. Please keep it civil from here on in, folks.

Wait looking at Alex's 2D asset the hard suit had an. LMG looking gun on one side is that gone now? These hard suits mixed with the killer minis from Dreamforge might make a cool force...

For those in the know I wonder if Alex's "Fiddler" will make it into the line up....

This would be a major seller
http://flyingdebris.deviantart.com/art/The-Fiddler-188382821

 5deadly wrote:
Wait looking at Alex's 2D asset the hard suit had an. LMG looking gun on one side is that gone now? These hard suits mixed with the killer minis from Dreamforge might make a cool force...

For those in the know I wonder if Alex's "Fiddler" will make it into the line up....

This would be a major seller
http://flyingdebris.deviantart.com/art/The-Fiddler-188382821

That looks suspiciously similar to the concept art for the upcoming German walker...

Not so surprising, Defiance has been using that artist for their concept art. The UAMC hardsuit is directly based on his work. Not a fan of the manipulator arms hanging off the front, but the rest of it looks awesome. If that released as a kit it would be easy enough to simply remove them.

You got a link to the actual concept art for the german walker?

@ 5deadly:

I was not in love with the Dreamforge Heavy Infantry, but if these hardsuits can take their place, that would indeed be solid.

I'd like to see that German walker too.

If these MA.K. looking walkers OPENED UP (pay attention to me being nice with it defiance)
So i could show the pilot, and customize the hatch And had multiple leg poses that would be a huge ++.

But I'm still wondering about the original gun arm... please don't tell me that's out.... that would suck.

Playing nice as I can...

 Kalamadea wrote:
Not so surprising, Defiance has been using that artist for their concept art. The UAMC hardsuit is directly based on his work. Not a fan of the manipulator arms hanging off the front, but the rest of it looks awesome. If that released as a kit it would be easy enough to simply remove them.

You got a link to the actual concept art for the german walker?

Basically all the good and none of the bad with those wierd manipulator arms. Reminds me of a battlemech from mechwarrior except much smaller. Only a rough sketch at this point, but I like the idea they've got for it. Looks somewhat practical unlike all the japenese mecha type stuff that tends to pop up in mini lines these days. It's also why I like the DFG hardsuit much better than the other one that was posted. The DFG one looks more like something a real military would field. That other one just looked wierd with all the extra junk and wierd armor lines on it.

http://www.defiancegames.com/index.php/forum/german-panzergrenadiers-core-force/9301-they-call-this-an-qegg-breakerq-in-german--

Rough sketch, but I like it. I always liked the anime Gasaraki for that reason, it's a super realistic protrayal of how mecha would operate in a near-future setting. I mena, it's mecha, so there's quite a bit of suspension of disbelief required, but they really tried hard to make it feel like it's something that you could see on the battlefield. Smaller, perhaps 12 foot tall mech suits meant for urban combat operating in small units monitored and coordinated by a dedicated, mobile command vehicle a few miles behind the lines. It takes a major turn into the supernatural and metaphysical like halfway through the series unfortunately, but the early episodes are awesome and the mecha designs are fantastic. They've got some great kits out in 1/35th too

The German walker does look like the Fiddler, doesn't it? I actually hope they put in the manipulators -- they'd be wonderful bits for robots and cyborgs.


As a side note: did anyone catch the hardsuit photoshop on /tg/ with EIGHT missile launchers?! So much dakka, so very much . . .

 Kalamadea wrote:
Rough sketch, but I like it. I always liked the anime Gasaraki for that reason, it's a super realistic protrayal of how mecha would operate in a near-future setting. I mena, it's mecha, so there's quite a bit of suspension of disbelief required, but they really tried hard to make it feel like it's something that you could see on the battlefield. Smaller, perhaps 12 foot tall mech suits meant for urban combat operating in small units monitored and coordinated by a dedicated, mobile command vehicle a few miles behind the lines. It takes a major turn into the supernatural and metaphysical like halfway through the series unfortunately, but the early episodes are awesome and the mecha designs are fantastic. They've got some great kits out in 1/35th too

Spoiler:

The Gasaraki mech kits work great for 28mm also and as a bonus they are completely articulated! Here's mine from my Ventaran/Khiff army (armored aliens and cloaked dogmen). I actually intend for my hardsuits to be part of this force. I think the styling of the two is very complimentary.

That hard suit is indeed sweet... and mixing it with models from Dreamforge actually sounds like a pretty solid idea!

What is the height of it, and is there any scale shot of that render next to a ruler/known model/etc?

The grenadier torsos and legs don't fit together well. The torso appears thinner than the top of the legs giving a cup sitting on a saucer look. Might mix well with guard though.

The mech and figs are packed away right now, but if the GW building they are in front of doesn't give enough scale, I do know that the Ventauran miniature it is standing next to is 27mm from sole of boot to eye line making him just a smidge shorter than a cadian. If hit helps, here you can see Ventaurans on either side flanking a GW Cadian and a GZG trooper.