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 RiTides wrote:
That looks like a 3D printed, not cast, leg to me.

That is a print, the support structure nubs are still there on the print face. Its a latticework that supports the structure while being printed when you snap them off it leaves those little bumps on the surface. You can see some of that latticework still attached under the knee area.

Sining wrote:
Considering his(the owners) snippy attitude towards someone who asked an innocent question about if it was possible to assemble the mech in mulitple poses, I'm not surprised he would take a jab at dreamforge

I wasn't thrilled by it either (that being me who asked) nor the snipe at Dreamforge. Tony Reidy's customer service skills leave something to be desired.

cant be any worse than his business skills !

Well hello, there Xeno. I know your name now. I'm glad I'm not the one feeling like I read too much into his comments.

Hm. Never visited their FB page. Now that I see how much of a douchebag he is, I can safely say that Defiance will not get my monies.

That, and I still think their miniatures look awful.

I dont really have the time to go through fb right now, whats the exact quote on the jab?

 kenshin620 wrote:
I dont really have the time to go through fb right now, whats the exact quote on the jab?

It's no Romeo-rage, but it's still unnecessarily 'snippy'.

 Absolutionis wrote:
It's no Romeo-rage, but it's still unnecessarily 'snippy'.

Defiance also haven't spent years establishing and delivering market leading product. Any level of snip directed towards 'fans' is absurd. The fact that they have cheerful fans posting any comments at all on FB is pretty stunning to me.
Seems pretty consistent with their "all our issues are everybody's fault but ours" attitude though.

I thought the snipe at Dreamforge Games was this:

"We don't want to drone on about slide tooling and other nonsense that results in plastic parts you have to SCREW together!"

Quite frankly, the best coming from Defiance Games is that they started a War of Spanish Succession range which Wargames Factory has successfully continued and expanded upon. The rest is about extended release schedules and not quite so cool models. Sniping at Dreamforge while Dreamforge has released such magnificent minis (which btw Defiance just don't match) and is consistent with releases and such is just poor form to say the least. If I get to spend money in one of both companies, it will be Dreamforge for sure. Defiance, not in any case.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/886694_556285187736870_1296803539_o.jpg

Photos of some of the 3D printed parts. They said there will be three right and left leg options, a chin-mounted gun, and a secondary weapon option for one of the arms.

Link because it's a big picture

...Meh. Even *if* DFG manages to cast that up decently it's... retro... to say the least. Looks like some not-even-halfway decently updated RT era walker, scaled up. Maybe I'm just not seeing it, though.

I'm torn between my *middling* desire for mechs on my table (and I've been thinking about replacing my Sentinels) and I can't get over Tony's abrasive comments.

I mean, really. I like some artists' products without agreeing with, say, their political position... but he just wubs me the wong way.

Just because they've got a pretty decent master doesn't mean they can cast it properly

and even if they can cast it would you really send them pre-order money ?

Wait till you see what if anything turns up in a local game store

I'm supposed to be one of the arch-Defiance Games fanbois but even I'm not going to order until I see the finished product in the box.


For me, the question is why they didn't just make the leg into multiple parts rather than putting six legs per mech in the box? Sure, it's more fiddly to assemble a multi-part leg, but think about all that extra molding and box space!

Nothing of their's ever became local. I have to get all of it from the warstore, at a 25$ shipping premium, minimum. Their offer to ship anything for free if above 100$ is alluring, but not with their track-record firmly in mind.

If you want cool alternative sentinels you can't go wrong with Grymn ones from Hasslefree.

Not impressed, looks like a slight step up from that Russian toy/terrain stuff.

Was this even something on their ludicrously fictitious timeline?

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Nothing of their's ever became local. I have to get all of it from the warstore, at a 25$ shipping premium, minimum. Their offer to ship anything for free if above 100$ is alluring, but not with their track-record firmly in mind.

$25 shipping?! Jeez, that sucks.

I don't even have a local game store. I get everything by mail order or at the local Wal-Mart (which this town didn't even have 7-8 years ago). It's always something of a treat to leave town and actually get to -- ermagerd -- go into a real live game store!

Eilif wrote:

czakk wrote:
These guys do a hardsuit, not sure about the scale though:
http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/komodo-heavy-infantry.html

Spoiler:

Here's one with their G.O.T. Figures, which IIRC are comparable to Inifinity in size.

I've been meaning to ask, for anyone who has one of those hardsuits, how much of it is metal? I can't really tell from the pic, but this makes it look like resin, not metal.

 Barzam wrote:
I've been meaning to ask, for anyone who has one of those hardsuits, how much of it is metal? I can't really tell from the pic, but this makes it look like resin, not metal.

The AW hardsuits are resin.

And that 25$ is the minimum, it goes up quickly to 55$.

That AW Komodo suit is looking better and better. I could really see it with Paulson Games weapons on the arms.

plastictrees: No, the German walker was not on their "optimistic" timeline. Meanwhile, the UAMC heavy weapons, command squads, female marines are stil MIA.

I remember being interested in these way back when the thread started, but it seems the things I would have been interested in are still far out a year and a half later. This combined with the incredibly unprofessional and ignorant attitude shown by the company towards some of their competition, and in addition to their numerous failings on delivering product, it appears I will need to scratch them off my list to watch.

 DOGGED wrote:
I thought the snipe at Dreamforge Games was this:

"We don't want to drone on about slide tooling and other nonsense that results in plastic parts you have to SCREW together!"

Seriously? Wow. The left leg of the Leviathan Crusader has more technicality, detail, thought, and precision than the entire product line from Defiance. To me it comes off as someone whos a bit butthurt that they didnt produce an absolutely game changing model like Dreamforge did.

I really like the renders for the hard suits, but with all the other issues with this company, and the less than good product produced so far...Im likely to pass over them.




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 DOGGED wrote:
If you want cool alternative sentinels you can't go wrong with Grymn ones from Hasslefree.

They do look excellent, and Im likely to purchase some in the near future.

I still don't get why they have to include six legs. For that many pieces, why don't they just have the leg itself in three or six pieces Surely the toes would be swappable and the main leg bits could be as well. Hellion Productions did it with their 1/60 Dictator CAV model.

But then again, a LOT of things about Defiance Games don't make sense.

It really is telling that Wargames Factory started putting out better and better stuff after these jokers left. Everyone is raving about their new Zombie survivor set.

I was down for Hudson's Bugs, until I saw they were cast in that weird plastic-resin and the bases were terrible. How much could a sprue for plastic 30mm bases cost? Like $10K? That's not that much, on the business end of things.

--Chris

Prepare for a pleasant surprise

3D print (so not final cast) of the marine battlesuit




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If they can cast it decently at the price they originally planned I'm certainly going to be getting some

fingers crossed they've sorted out their issues

Yes, through a distributor, though, not direct. Not a chance in hell.

True that about distributors

Or local FLGS

Has anyone seen FLGS with dg stuff?

I had mine pretty jazzed about the marines, but then they saw that it was their only product. By the time Christmas rolled about, they said that with their production problems, they're too fishy to deal with.

...God, that's a lovely model. Now why can't it be in the hands of someone somewhat competent? oh well, if they ever hit distribution I sure as hell will get a bundle. 4 for $25 was the original planned price, I believe?

8 for 30, brah.