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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 19:39:06
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Barzam wrote:I've used both Loctite and Krazy brand super glues and both have had serious issues bonding with the restic. I've built quite a few other resin and restic figures using the same glues and never had any problems.
I've never used either, perhaps there's a difference? I love the Army Painter super glue as it's a bit thick (for concave surfaces and ball joints), and zap a gap as it's a bit thinner (for flat surfaces), and both work on metal/restic/resin/plastic/defiance-weird-plastic/trollforged/etc
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 19:55:38
Subject: Re:Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Major
In a van down by the river
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Loctite works on at least some forms of restic; my DreadBall guys are held together by it just fine. Who knows with the specific formulation Defiance uses though...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 21:20:12
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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From what I heard, the bugs' legs do not have a good surface to glue. They are more or less sticks that you glue into the body, as opposed to ball and socket joints. This may be part of the problem.
Edit: The above is incorrect. It was the issue of gluing the tips of the legs to the base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 01:36:16
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 04:19:24
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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Totally different as far as I know. The German mech never had arms. It always looked kind of like a GEKKO from Metal Gear Solid.
You know, if they were to go back and recast the Germans in regular hard plastic on sprues like the UAMC, I would probably take back everything negative I've said about them or their products. The figures had so much potential to be really cool that just got wasted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 04:46:11
Subject: Re:Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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I use loctite too and it works just fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 17:29:25
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Looks like wayland games are starting to stock them, spotted them in the summer sales newsletter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 21:00:09
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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I've been looking at the Chinese, and maybe this is wishful thinking, but I thnk they'll come out significantly better than previous sets. The details on the Marines were kind of shallow and soft with rounded edges, and the Germans were detailed to the point of being a busy mess. These look a bit cleaner, in the sense that there aren't a lot of extra detail just to have detail. The detail it does have seems to be pretty deep and with fairly hard edges. I'll agree with the criticism that the helmets are butt ugly, and those aren't even AK47s in space, they're just AK47s, but as far as the models go, it looks like they'll paint up easier than the last few sets. If they come out of the mold well, they may be a major step forward. Automatically Appended Next Post: Actually, I think those may be a head and arm swap away from being pretty good Colonial Marines. Now to just wait for Mad Robot Minis to come out with some rolled sleeves.
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It's an ugly planet. A bug planet.
Ouze wrote: 7.) If you gather 250 consecutive issues of White Dwarf, and burn them atop a pyre of Citradel spray guns, legend has it Gwar will appear and answer a single rules-related question. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 21:04:55
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Zealous Knight
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doc1234 wrote:Looks like wayland games are starting to stock them, spotted them in the summer sales newsletter.
well that's a match made in heaven on both the quick&prompt delivery and responsible stock-keeping fronts, then
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 03:33:46
Subject: Re:Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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New pictures of the Chinese:
One thing I noticed is that the hands don't seem quite as freakishly oversized; about at GW standards now
Apparently they learned a lesson; Ed Fortae of Troll Forged, who designed the plastic they used, mentioned (on Frothers, I think), that his stuff works better for single-piece castings rather than lots of small, intricate pieces, and seems like that's what they're going for here. I'd have to see them in the real life, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 07:54:50
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Those look pretty good. I'm a little bummed about the arms being connected to the torsos because it'll make it virtually impossible to do an arm swap on them. However, they look pretty damned sharp.
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It's an ugly planet. A bug planet.
Ouze wrote: 7.) If you gather 250 consecutive issues of White Dwarf, and burn them atop a pyre of Citradel spray guns, legend has it Gwar will appear and answer a single rules-related question. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 08:18:31
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Pros:
-like the armor, at least from the blurry pics I have on my phone
- their helmets look the bicycle helmets the rebel alliance used
-Ak47's in space
Cons
-bicycle helmets
-bit pricier
-Ak47's in space
either way, I'll wait until I see them in store before I would think of buying them. They might make good conversion fodder for elysians, as their bodies seem to match that style of armor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 09:25:40
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Calculating Commissar
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They aren't bad. A bit generic, but even that has a definite appeal. And there's enough separate arms to get some conversion work done, which is good news.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 09:50:13
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
Tied and gagged in the back of your car
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Oh god... it's beautiful. Must. Resist. Urge. To. Splurge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 10:52:33
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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Maybe they can take some of the money they get for pre-orders and buy a camera that has a focus feature. Those preset/one distance focus cameras are just no good now-a-days, and surely the use of a camera that could focus would preclude them from showing those pictures...
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Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 11:04:29
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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CptJake wrote:Maybe they can take some of the money they get for pre-orders and buy a camera that has a focus feature. Those preset/one distance focus cameras are just no good now-a-days, and surely the use of a camera that could focus would preclude them from showing those pictures...
Look at the detail on that leaf!
Yea, they really need a new camera, or learn how to use the one that they have. I am sure that there is a tutorial here on Dakka somewhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 14:30:39
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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I have to say, those figures actually look decent. I think that going simplistic on the details was actually a good move on their part. Intdrsting that some figures are even monoposed. If they can actually deliver on quality and on time, I may even cinsider getting some.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 15:24:58
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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Fafnir wrote:
Oh god... it's beautiful. Must. Resist. Urge. To. Splurge.
It is quite awesome. However, the cost of 110 GBP, or should I say the conversion of that sum to USD, instantly stopped any desire I had for the mech.
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Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 15:32:27
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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I'm just curious why they can't seem to upload hi-res images ever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 15:47:22
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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spaceelf wrote: CptJake wrote:Maybe they can take some of the money they get for pre-orders and buy a camera that has a focus feature. Those preset/one distance focus cameras are just no good now-a-days, and surely the use of a camera that could focus would preclude them from showing those pictures...
Look at the detail on that leaf!
Yea, they really need a new camera, or learn how to use the one that they have. I am sure that there is a tutorial here on Dakka somewhere.
I was going to say the exact same thing. The camera is not the problem, it's a user problem. At worse they need to buy an extra lens to better focus on up close subjects.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 18:44:24
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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It's really inexcusable. An iPhone 4 can take really good pictures, and I use a 3 megapixel point and shoot from like, 2004 and get solid, high-detail pictures of my models all the time. It's baffling.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 00:53:21
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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For all we know he has Parkinson's and it's the best he can do. I'd rather not dwell on it. They certainly seem to have picked up the pace, though.
With a little luck, we might see stockists carrying it. And we might get battle eggs.
Anyone see close enough to notice if there are females in that Chinese set?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 21:46:13
Subject: Re:Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Last night, amongst many other random things, I dreamed I received a battle egg in the mail.
I suspect, sometimes, that's the closest I'll get to ever seeing one . . .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/15 00:50:04
Subject: Re:Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Those helmets make me think of Rebel Troopers from Star Wars: A New Hope
Actually makes me more interested in them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/15 01:11:43
Subject: Re:Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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The kit's include special weapon, a heavy HMG. I'm kinda disappointed that there's not RPG.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/17 04:02:02
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Brigadier General
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Yay, more crappily focused pictures.
For a company that's trying to dig itself out of something of an image hole, these pictures only make it look like they're trying to hide something.
Any clear accessory sprue pictures yet?
That's about as close as we can get to really seeing the quality of these before they are released and independent reviews start appearing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/17 11:17:17
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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I don't like the design for that machinegun either. Unless they have figured out away to take recoil away, resting it on top of your shoulder vice being able to pull a stock into your shoulder is going to make that uncomfortable to fire and inaccurate as all heck. Seeing as how the rest of the troops are still using today's AK, I doubt the MG has a magic recoil reducer tech.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 03:06:33
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Since he had it over his shoulder I just assumed it was some sort of missle launcher
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 04:03:11
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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It looks like a recoiless rifle or anti tank weapon. That couldn't be a MG, its just wrong in so many ways.
The only way a MG could be fired on the shoulder is if the gunner was behind the A-Gunner, shooting from a supported position on the guys shoulder. Maybe from the hip too, but the shoulder? I don't think so.
http://youtu.be/B57dW3A-DT0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 04:42:31
Subject: Defiance games. Plastic (resin) SCI FI manufacturer: chinese
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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maybe a rail gun?
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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