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 Ghool wrote:
 Davespil wrote:
 Davespil wrote:
A lot of people don't enjoy painting. I am one of them. I'm not gonna waste hours of my life painting an army just so I can play with some punk just cause he can't handle facing an unpainted army. I'm in it for the hobby, I don't want it to become a chore.


Well spoken, sir! I feel exactly the same way. If you enjoy painting, good for you. If you don't, that's cool too. But, if you wanna be one of those annoying little children whining about unpainted armies, they to hell with you.


This attitude confuses me. If one hates painting so much they can't be bothered, then why not play a game where an activity one hates isn't part of it at all?
I see the hobby as whole and not disparate aspects of which there are some I enjoy and others I hate. I either like war gaming and all that it entails or I don't like it at all.

The reason I get confused about hating the hobby half of.....the hobby.....is because with the gaming options available, no one has to settle for anything which contains aspects that they hate.

If one hates painting so much, find different games to play.
If I hated painting so much I would never ever bother to pick up a brush, I don't think I'd bother with miniature games. There's so much out there that doesn't require painting, I'd find something else to spend my money on.

But hey, to each their own. I just find it really odd to waste time and money on a thing one partially hates.


There's a difference between "hating" and "not enjoying." Plus, some people genuinely enjoy just playing the game. I have friends that play this and not other games, so this is how we spend time together.
   
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If you don't like painting, then why did you choose a hob where it is nearly 1/2 of it?

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
If you don't like painting, then why did you choose a hob where it is nearly 1/2 of it?


Answered nearly a month ago. Plus, if you don't paint at all (I do paint, but slowly and not a lot lately), then the hobby for you actually consists of no painting. It's only part of your hobby if you make it part of your hobby.
   
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100% of my army is painted and that's all that matters to me

Yes its nice if the opposition is painted but thats other peoples toys/time to do with as they please

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Northumberland

I am making a specific effort to put together a properly painted force before I start looking for games. It just seems like good manners to me after my research of the hobby.
   
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Italy

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
If you don't like painting, then why did you choose a hob where it is nearly 1/2 of it?


There are several people that only paint and don't play a single game because they're not interested into doing that.

 
   
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Mindless Spore Mine





A lot of gamers at the shop I frequent typically lay down one base coat so all the models are this solid color. Then add one distinct detail to it. Like a racing stripe down the side of a Rhino. I just don't consider that "fully painted" as it does not truly contribute to the aesthetic of the match. The "lull" that is sometimes experienced during a match as an opponent makes a decision or finds a given rule is alleviated by the detailed figures to admire. It lends the imagination some fuel.
   
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Hellacious Havoc





Denmark

We have a 2-3 players who usually meet up with mostly painted armies in my local gaming group.

I am probably the only one with a rule of "not painted, not on the table" The thing is though, that it only apply to myself. I don't enforce it on the players I'm against.

Funnily enough, having a page for it and all, I love the painting aspect, but it's also a good check for me. It's keeps me from buying a gakload of models, as if my backlog gets too big, then I do a full stop until I have painted what I have. It's a great motivator.

Plus. I just love the sight of a fully painted army across the battlefield.

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Most were painted, save for my own. But no one gave me grief about it so I didn't really care. After all, it was about the fun and not all about paint.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
If you don't like painting, then why did you choose a hob where it is nearly 1/2 of it?


More like a quarter.

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At the tournaments I've attended, there are never more than 25% painted armies, and at "competitive" tournaments (ranked ITC) rarely more than 1 or 2. I'd guesstimate at least 25% of armies are mostly bare plastic, and the middle half consisting of a mix of primed, or 2-color slapdash paint jobs.

The numbers might be better in casual play; I mostly play with a smaller group of friends at a home table.


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DeathKorp_Rider wrote:

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
If you don't like painting, then why did you choose a hob where it is nearly 1/2 of it?


More like a quarter.

Well yes, if you don't bother painting your models, then it follows that painting will take up significantly less of your hobby time.

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Maybe around half. As far as I know, nearly all of the armies are at least partially painted in some form or another.
   
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Honestly less than 50%. :(
Wish it was more...

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AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "


 Eonfuzz wrote:


I would much rather everyone have a half ass than no ass.


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Squishy Squig






I haven't got a local store, so currently I play my brother/friends. They all have painted armies... That I painted. I sooner will knock a few points off my list then let them use a model that is unbuilt/painted.

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I only play my friends so I have no idea what anyone elses armies look like. On top of that we bounce around from gamestore to gamestore.
   
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Glasgow

 Maréchal des Logis Walter wrote:
What's more the "all painted army" thing doesn't account for quality. If you're a crappy painter as I am, it is sometimes more beautiful to have the army resin grey than paint it for the sake of painting it and bring on a great display of ugliness that makes Nurgle wet its pants.


This all day.

My armies are fully painted and it's rare that I field a model that isn't (my) display standard. My friends vary and against a few I'm usually playing an entirely grey army. I play at a lot of tournaments with painting requirements, however, and I'd much prefer to play my pals' grey forces than the inch-thick 3-colour things that people who take no pleasure in painting or can't find the time are forced to field.
   
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Oh, i mis read the title. Please delete post. sorry

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Powerful Ushbati





United States

It's about 25-30% in my area.

I always try to have the base color for my marines on when I play, but I just can't be bothered to paint. I was really hoping GW was going to announce prepainted miniatures with what became the Contrast line. :(

After about a year and a half we *finally* drove the last two "paint criers" out of the store. Since then, things have been a lot better for our group. So, I guess this is a plus!
   
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Pretty much zero. Maybe one or two. In my actual gaming group (we don't game at the local stores) we're maybe 4/12 as far as fully painted.
   
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Mexico

In my case we are a small group, but we try to have as many miniatures painted as possible, to the point we regularly hire the best painter in our group to paint our armies.

It is a curious economic system, in which the older players with more money but less time are basically paying the younger players with more time and artistic skill but less money, which in turn use that money to buy more miniatures.
   
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crap mis-read the question.

definitely not 100%. I would say usually I face a dipped army or grey plastic. Rarely if ever do I face a well painted army and only once have I played one better painted than mine.

when I got back into this hobby in 2003 there was a 3-paint requirement but as soon as it was dropped people went to grey plastic (replacing the garbage paint jobs people did at age 11).

My armies stood out because I painted them and to a good standard. I look back now and I don't get so depressed they aren't the best armies painted, I'm depressed that with 1 hour a day I got a really nicely painted army done in a short time and no one else would do that.

It is depressing that GW keeps making faster and easier ways to make an army look good on the table top and people still choose different priorities.
   
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Speaking for myself, at least, my armies tend to have "holes" in them.

That doesn't mean I don't enjoy painting or don't put effort into it, though.

The thing about 40k is that no one person can grasp the fullness of it.

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Personally never had a painted army. I don’t enjoy painting and I’m not paying a huge fee for an army I might lose interest in.

Never had any issues with anyone about it though.
   
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TBH, pre covid, at our club, the % painted seems to vary greatly by gaming system.

Im frustrated by people who wont paint their armies but I deal with the issue by trying to encourage people, post my wip pics on the group chat, encourage and offer support rather than condemnation.

At the end of the day you can't make other adults do things as its a voluntary hobby. I just wish the expectations were higher in some gaming communities.
   
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I think those are your own personal expectations your disappointed in. People can enjoy the hobby however they want, whether or not it includes playing, painting, or model assembly.
   
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DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
I think those are your own personal expectations your disappointed in. People can enjoy the hobby however they want, whether or not it includes playing, painting, or model assembly.


And i wouldn't disagree with your statement. As I said, im fully accepting of the fact that you cant make adults do things they don’t want to do. Plus life, circumstances etc can make painting difficult (im a big painter and I struggle with time/space/family etc) which is why I work to persuade, encourage and support people in the normal course of my hobby and gaming interactions. But maybe to expand on my previous point.

For me, every time you put a game on the table you are in fact also advertising your game system of choice and your local community/club. What is more likely to get a person to join your game system and club? A table with poorly constructed, and/or unpainted models, unpainted terrain (or 2d terrain in the case of some WM/H players….) etc. Or a fully painted cinematic table with fully painted models that looks cools and people who appear to be open and friendly to help you learn and play the game and improve your hobby? I think the latter.

Pre-covid, in our old club id say that GW stuff was about 50% painted to a medium standard, Bloodbowl/Necromunda/Mordheim was 80-100% painted, Malifaux was about 80% to a high standard, WM/H was about 20-30% but that which was painted was to a high standard.
   
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Even my own personal tabling of armies isn't 100%. I have several painted armies, but I've got a lot of bare plastic that I play with too.

I really enjoy painting, I find it very zen, however I take a long time to paint in the style that I like and I don't plan of waiting the better part of a year to play the new 1k army list I want to try out.

I love seeing two painted armies on the table go at it, but I don't believe it should be mandatory by any means (I'm looking at you 10VP, though crushing someone that insists on a handicap against someone they've never met before is certainly satisfying in it's own rite. I play pretty laid back most matches, but that's when the claws come out).

There are plenty of immersive tabletop games out there that don't require painted models to get into and their are plenty of reasons why people can't or won't paint their models. (My best friend is colour blind so his models don't exactly come out artistic, but he does it anyway because against anyone other than me, he feels like he has to.) If your immersion in a game is solely based off of your opponents painting, then you need some better imagination, if not, then what's the problem?


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Sunno wrote:

For me, every time you put a game on the table you are in fact also advertising your game system of choice and your local community/club. What is more likely to get a person to join your game system and club? A table with poorly constructed, and/or unpainted models, unpainted terrain (or 2d terrain in the case of some WM/H players….) etc. Or a fully painted cinematic table with fully painted models that looks cools and people who appear to be open and friendly to help you learn and play the game and improve your hobby? I think the latter.


I would counter that by saying it depends on the person, but for the most part I would actually disagree. While seeing two cool painted armies square off is a sight to behold for sure, if I wasn't already into Wargaming, I'd look at that and think "that looks awesome, but I don't have the time / am not good enough to make an army like that" and move on. (I've been playing this game for over 20 years and only in the last 5 have I become actually proud of my painting, and even then, it's my own unique style I've developed, not everyone likes it.) Looking at unpainted, or partially painted armies, they see that they can play a work in progress and (I think on average) are more likely to try something new and get into it. It's great to see the end result, but know that you'll still be able to have fun on the journey.

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We had a recent AoS league. by the end three of 13 were fully painted.

But props to everyone, they all had SOME painted units. We were working hard and the paint judge went to every single persons army and gave them kudos on their efforts. Painting a full AoS army is no easy venture. If playing skirmish, we tend to go for fully painted.

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Don’t play in a store. Ever. Also don’t care if my or my opponents armies are painted. I’m in it for the game. I get so sick of hearing that painting is required to enjoy the hobby…. I am a pretty poor painter and very slow to boot. And when free time comes I have a lot of other interests that come waaaay before painting ever will. Not to mention as an adult I have many other things that demand my time and attention. If I manage to find three hours of time, I much prefer to play a game.
   
 
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