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I've heard talk of a potential new starter set (not Achtung!), which would include plastics and focus on Late War. Possibly including 101st, with plastic infantry. I have searched the FOW website, but have found nothing. Can someone tell me where they heard about this? WWPD webcast? When will it be released? Thanks - Mez

A few rumors here and there, mainly from the boys at WWPD. The talk is that the plastic infantry is based on the existing metals and will be indistinguishable from them once painted. Apparently the forces in boxed set will be US Airborne and German Panzer Grenadiers with plastic vehicles included, but so-far it’s unclear if these will be any different to those in the Achtung set.

There is also talk of a plastic V2 rocket, which I assume will be some sort of objective.

I’m curious about the infantry because sofar I’ve been unimpressed with the attempts at plastic infantry from PSC and WF. They just seem a bit stick thin with static poses. I realise that they are more correct anatomically, but I like the more dynamic nature of the infantry from Battlefront and Forged in Battle. FIB in particular are my favorite producers of 15mm WW2 infantry atm and are much cheaper than BF.

It was from a wwpd podcast episode that feature joe form battlefront.So it is true it came from horses mouth!It is also suppose to contain some plastic German Armor.
If this helps.
Mini rule book, 150 or so infantry, 6 tanks, one Gun, and a V1 "Objective" I think October is the planned release date I heard on that interview.

I heard BF brought samples of this to GenCon this weekend (can anyone confirm? with photos? please?) it was specifically called Open Fire and it said plastic infantry etc.

Fango wrote:I heard BF brought samples of this to GenCon this weekend (can anyone confirm? with photos? please?) it was specifically called Open Fire and it said plastic infantry etc.

I heard the same thing too. i hope we get some piks of the set.I am curious to see how they did the plastic Infantry and the VEhicles.

I borrowed theese images from another site. Thought i would share with my fellow board members here. All i can say is that iam really looking forward to this set.

Here is a estimate on the contents, Mini rule book, 150 or so infantry, 6 tanks, one Gun, and a V1 "Objective

I am very much looking forward to this set. I will use the Germans to supplement my Panzerkompanie, and the set as a whole will be good for demoing FoW when I start a gaming club at my college.

Wow!

Fair play to Battlefront, those really do look impressive.

Any word on the Vehicles to be included, is it just the Same M4A1's and Stugs from the current set? I hope they drop some new ones on us.

From the rumors i have gotten,Stugs and Fireflys are in.


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Here you go a nice copy paste for you.
The set will include 2 platoons of Grenadiers with HQ, several Stugs, several AT guns and the V-1 objective for the Germans and 2 platoons of British Shermans with Fireflys and HQ (10 tanks total) and a platoon of US Paras. He didn't have any information on pricing or if/when they will be released outside of the Open Fire set.

So American Paratroopers with British Armour? Interesting. Sounds like the set is based on Market Garden, I can't think of any other time they would have fought side by side.

I've already got a number of PSC M4A4's and Fireflys and more Germans than I know what to do with, but I'll almost certainly pick this up regardless. Thanks for the info.

Yeah, Market Garden sounds like the thing. V-1 Rockets were fired primarily from the Netherlands and Belgium. US Paratroopers and Firefly's are in the current Market Garden book.

I may have to scrounge some money up for this eventually.

Probably just in time for the MArket GArden Compilation book.

Let there be pics!

http://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=3438


















IMHO they look great!

Vehicles look average, but the infantry models are very nice for 15mm. Some really nice poses, though I do wonder if having lots of 'unique' poses in a unit may make it look odd? That said, I think they look very nice.

As for the V1... Very silly.

Well I must say those infantry look very tasty indeed, hard to believe they are plastic. The vehicles look pretty good, nothing amazing but certainly just as good as anything PSC have brought out.

I’m intrigued at the hint that there is more plastic infantry to follow.

Do you think the plastic infantry will look out of place with the older metal ones? I'm going on the head size on this one.

 Cwen wrote:
Do you think the plastic infantry will look out of place with the older metal ones? I'm going on the head size on this one.

To me those German plastics look to be far more proportioned than most of Battlefront recent metals. I'm interested in seeing them side by side.

I don’t think there are any 15mm WW2 figures out there that have gotten human anatomy completely accurate yet. PSC are certainly better than Battlefront in this regard but I find their infantry to be rather lifeless. The more cartoony heroic figs scales made by Battlefront or Forged in Battle may have OTT proportions, but their figures are far more animated and in that regard I consider them to be the more realistic.

I'm going to be very interested in the cost.

This will be all for nothing if they think they can charge silly money for it.

Big P wrote:
As for the V1... Very silly.

It's an objective/terrain piece. The vehicles (apart from the firefly) are the same ones from Achtung! so they're not terribly exciting.

Since I'm not a fan of plastic 15mm infantry nor these particular vehicles I think that' I'll give this a miss. I'll look out for the V1 turning up on eBay though.

I know i will be getting me a set or two.Also i can swap out some of the stuff.I wonder if we get a copy of the mini rulebook?

 col. krazy kenny wrote:
I know i will be getting me a set or two.Also i can swap out some of the stuff.I wonder if we get a copy of the mini rulebook?

looks like we do:

The Box Contains:
∙ A 52 Page Full Colour Quick Start Guide. ∙ A 296 Page Full Colour Complete Rulebook. ∙ More Than 118 Finely Detailed Miniatures. ∙ V1 Flying Bomb Terrain Feature. ∙ Cardboard Terrain. ∙ Tokens. ∙ Objective Markers. ∙ Army Lists. ∙ 20 Dice.

I will be getting this set if it is $100 or under, it will be a great help in starting the game club at my college.

Already planning on splitting it with a buddy of mine, regardless of cost.

I pointed out things based on the photo. The Brits out of Hells highway are about 1000pts -ish. The Germans as Grenadiers out of GW at 800ish.

Shotgun wrote:
I pointed out things based on the photo. The Brits out of Hells highway are about 1000pts -ish. The Germans as Grenadiers out of GW at 800ish.

I would buy me a King Tiger and that would almost even out the points.


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 col. krazy kenny wrote:

Shotgun wrote:
I pointed out things based on the photo. The Brits out of Hells highway are about 1000pts -ish. The Germans as Grenadiers out of GW at 800ish.

I would buy me a King Tiger and that would almost even out the points.

or if you are a poor GAmer you can buy a few Zvezda tanks and use them for Herman Goring.

Wow that looks cool!

Do want! Much better than "You get 5 tanks"

Apparently it's been seen up for pre-order online somewhere for £50.

 Aldramelech wrote:
Apparently it's been seen up for pre-order online somewhere for £50.

Most excellent!

Now i wonder how this is going to draw in more Gw players.I know when i starteed paying i was wanting a set like this. When i started i had to get a HArdback and Fortress Europe.Then went and bought a FEw paks from old glory for my Germans and a few BF sets.Probably set me back a 150$.I bought the books used.


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Pre orders are up.
http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/flames-of ... 17774.html

Hmmm tempting. I was going to start collecting an Allied force when BF started releasing their new Market Garden content. This might be exactly what I need.

The Sherman/Firefly alone looks great value for money but to be honest I may just get the platoon box as I'm more interested in the individual sculpts. Although the stowage on the sprue should make it easy to customise these new ones.

Wayland Games have this up on pre-order for £45.

http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/flames-of-war/open-fire/prod_17774.html

I've already got the V3 rulebook but I intend to pick a copy up anyway. The Germans alone would cost more than £45 in metal/resin.