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Going to be participating in a X-Wing Regional Tourney at Game Kastle in Santa Clara, Ca. tomorrow (05-25-13). Planning on running a modified "Han Shot First" list:

YT-1300 Han Solo with either Marksmanship & Gunner or the Millenium Falcon title & Luke Skywalker

2 x Y-Wings with Ion Cannon

100 points even.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That Death Star map seems awfully repetitive Tom. There isn't one that's slightly less grid-like with repeating textures?

Believe it or not, no.... There are shockingly few Death Star texture maps out there! There are a few more generic starship hull ones, but there is a very specific amount of kibble and relief you need to say 'death star'.

Had some friendly games in the last days.

Friend of mine is running two falcons (1 falcon, 1 yt-1300) on 100 points. Is there a way to make that work? So far she always lost because everyone just focus fired one of them down early when she wasnt able to do much in return and from there on it was pretty much GG.
Their 360 degrees fire arc is nice ... but through 1 agility and only one of them being able to evade they seem to be very squishy even with han and chewie piloting and with defensive upgrades they lack firepower.

One idea would be to take one as a outer rim smuggler and add an x-wing (maybe darklighter). That would limit the possible upgrades for han and what does the trash falcon bring to the table a second x-wing (or other) couldnt bring?

I personally like the "han shot first"-list when i run a falcon but she wants to play dual falcons really badly

I don't think that list would be viable against anyone who knows what they are doing, the falcons are just too easy to hit and can't put out enough firepower to deal with a tie spam list. They need escort for sure.

HHhhmmmm. I have to check B&N this weekend. I do know they have Tie Fighters, Y-Wings, and X-Wings. On the clearance tables. Think the Falcon to. I'm stuck on 40K...if the wife finds out I'm expanding my painting genre she have my debit cards in a heart beat....you single guys don't laugh....you find out

My only justification would be to buy them....maybe paint up a Xwing Squadron basing of JG52 color scheme and marking...and trade the rest....my new Tau Drones be Xwings....for a couple of months.

I do know the price difference. I can't see a one for one mini trade......just throwing it out there....I'm looking to diverse the armor of my SM and CSM. Don't rush me. I'm 42 and set in my ways.....and Major Tom we're not in the same unit so no command influence from you

 MajorTom11 wrote:
I don't think that list would be viable against anyone who knows what they are doing, the falcons are just too easy to hit and can't put out enough firepower to deal with a tie spam list. They need escort for sure.

I agree with that. That leads me to another question. Are you guys playing only 100 points games only or are you expanding to higher points levels too? Most battle reports i see are 100 or less. Running Dual Falcons would seem to be more viable on 150 points games. But the standard table size would be somewhat crowded if an imperial considers tie spam on 150 points .

Ya, usually 50-100 pts, 100 pts being more common from what I can tell. I am not super familiar with the Falcon rules having never played with them myself, but that 1 agility is the thing that I keep coming back to, along with the attacks as the deciding factor... sometimes cards make a huge difference but in this case there are only so many targets 2 ships can hit in a given set of turns, and I just dont think they can even hit every ship in a tie spam list in most average game times, much less destroy them each in 1 round...

Agility 1 is bad but you can augment that with evade if you're using the millenium falcon card and the ship is so tanky that the massive shields and hull make up for it. The firepower that ship puts out is pretty amazing. Base 3 with likely a "try again" reroll on a miss via either Han, Luke, or the generic gunner is powerful. Also, it's alot faster than you'd think because of the base size. A forward 3 with the falcon is longer than a forward 4 for a normal fighter. I've had great luck circling the play area and picking off wounded fighters of my choice due to the 360 arc. YMMV.

Oh there are def advantages to it, and I figured best use was exactly what you describe, circling and picking off strays in conjunction with fighters. My comments are aimed squarely at the 'Falcon only' lists being discussed previously, in which the dynamics change drastically compared to a mixed list.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Oh there are def advantages to it, and I figured best use was exactly what you describe, circling and picking off strays in conjunction with fighters. My comments are aimed squarely at the 'Falcon only' lists being discussed previously, in which the dynamics change drastically compared to a mixed list.

I could see the dual falcon list working though personally depending on the upgrades. Two 360 arcs with 3 base attack and rerolls on misses that are hard to follow (especially with engine modification boost moves) and keep in your sights would be killer against aggressive players.. not so much against more sit back and wait playstyles though.

I just played a game with the opponent using Slave 1 for the first time... holy crap that thing wrecks face... it costs a heavy amount sure but the ion cannons and tankiness are pretty nuts...

 MajorTom11 wrote:
I just played a game with the opponent using Slave 1 for the first time... holy crap that thing wrecks face... it costs a heavy amount sure but the ion cannons and tankiness are pretty nuts...

Wait till you face 3 of them for 99 points.....30 health is a bitch to cut through.

I played an 80 pt game last night as the rebels. I took a gold squadron y-wing with ion and R2, prototype a-wing with cluster missiles, and tycho celchu with swarm tactics and cluster missiles. I kept the a-wings together and bumped the shooting of the prototype to 8. Worked really well with the y-wing slowing ties down.

The main thing I'm missing now is y-wings, so Ion was a shock to me playing against slave one... I did not realize it bypassed shields, I thought it just put the 1 move consequence on you... devastating weapon!

 MajorTom11 wrote:
The main thing I'm missing now is y-wings, so Ion was a shock to me playing against slave one... I did not realize it bypassed shields, I thought it just put the 1 move consequence on you... devastating weapon!

Bypass shields?

That's news to me, and I've played with and against them!

The way the rule read to me, a hit deals 1 damage card, shields or no shields the way it was worded...?

Nope, just checked on the FFG, its a point of damage, not a damage card. So shields go first. With large ships, they need two ion tokens for the ion effect to happen, but will still take a point of damage each hit.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
The way the rule read to me, a hit deals 1 damage card, shields or no shields the way it was worded...?

Although I don't have the rules with me at the moment, that's not how I remember them or how we played. It does a max of one damage but I don't think it refers to bypassing shields.

http://home.comcast.net/~jason.fuller/empire.html

Looking at the ion card entry (hover over it with your pointer and it pops up) on the top row shows just "damage" and not damage card. You do still however suffer the ion token effect of derping forward 1 regardless of shields.

Ok that makes more sense, my opponent was making the argument of damage in terms of RAW but if there is seperate terminology and a distinction between a damage card and damage point then that makes TONS more sense.

I still whupped him at least

Items claimed

Just showing one of the wings are off a Tie Advance

Delicious y-wings... all mine!

 MajorTom11 wrote:

I still whupped him at least

That is the best consolation, isn't it?

It is, that and the successful tracking down of y-wings to return the ion favor! Just missing a couple of interceptors and a-wings and my phase 1 and 2 collection is complete!

And my next question was answered

Looks like i dont have to wait till october to get my missing wave 1 ships.

Today there was an official post on the forums of the german X-Wing Distributor (Heidelberger Spieleverlag) that says they will have cores and wave1 back on the shelves at the start of july followed by wave 2 some time later in july (wave 2 not being 100% sure).

Source if you understand german .

Well, The Death Star board is about 60% complete. Just need to make my vertical terrain, towers and TL turrets.

Next project is which is already in the works is a two level asteroid board. The first level on the main board is a large asteroid surface with a rebel base on the surface which the Wave 3 ships can bomb. The second level will be a 4x4 piece of plexi-glass that is covered in an asteroid field which the fighters can move and play. The fighters can move up can down bewteen the two levels.

Pics Pip?

Guys, I am trying to get in touch with FF brass in order to see if we can get a bit more of a robust community happening here with lots of info etc, I think X-wing can live in more than 1 single linear thread -

Could be cool will see what happens!

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Pics Pip?

Guys, I am trying to get in touch with FF brass in order to see if we can get a bit more of a robust community happening here with lots of info etc, I think X-wing can live in more than 1 single linear thread -

Could be cool will see what happens!

Would love to see that happen. I would like to see a thread devoted to lists etc.

So would I, it seems the game is popular enough to support it, will kick the idea around upstairs, if you guys are into it!

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Pics Pip?

Guys, I am trying to get in touch with FF brass in order to see if we can get a bit more of a robust community happening here with lots of info etc, I think X-wing can live in more than 1 single linear thread -

Could be cool will see what happens!

When I get home from work I will post some pictures of what I am starting. I am using the unfinished boards that were going to make an extra large Death Star board. It was had to justify having an 8 1/2 foot by 4 foot Death Star board with trench. It is now a 4 1/2 foot by 4 foot Death Star board with a trench.

So the two unfinished boards are going to be base for the asteroid board. The main board surface layer will be pink foam. Instead of trying to carve out the texture or sculpt it in with putty I am going to use cheep brown spray paint. The propellent will melt the foam and give it that irregular texture plus it will be more durible for store play. The second level will be a single sheet of plexi-glass framed out in wood, with a center support to reduce the middle from sagging. It will be held up by 4 support rods, one on each corner approx 2 to 2 1/2 feet above the main board.

It should be realitivly easy. The only thing I need to practice with is the plexi-glass because it is a material I have not worked with yet. I will need to find an anti-glare coating for it so the store lights will not shine back up at players.