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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 14:33:31
Subject: MSS and force weapons
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Yes lets suggest that people roll for something that does not state that it overrides BRB rules. Necrons really need it too, so there's good reason.
I think we've already silently agreed to disagree. But some are horny for cheese and would not like to give it up. That irritates others, and because of that the discussion continues.
Take a look at other rules threads here for some hilarious reading about more tries for cheese by necron players. They are not alone, but well represented in that department.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 14:34:59
Subject: MSS and force weapons
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Stoff3 wrote: But some are horny for cheese and would not like to give it up.
I do love  . Especially Pepper Jack...mmmm...pepper jack...
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 14:35:29
Subject: MSS and force weapons
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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nosferatu1001 wrote:Which is mastery one for the purposes of psychic tests, and this invokes a psychic test. Or have you missed that part of the rule?
But it never generates warp charge points. Or did you miss that part yourself?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 14:38:57
Subject: MSS and force weapons
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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So RAW it cannot activate. And? Has no bearing, whatsoever, on the subject at hand - which is that MSS cannot force the psyker to spend a warp charge point and take a psychic test.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 14:41:06
Subject: MSS and force weapons
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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nosferatu1001 wrote:So RAW it cannot activate. And? Has no bearing, whatsoever, on the subject at hand - which is that MSS cannot force the psyker to spend a warp charge point and take a psychic test.
Except by RAW it can, as the Necron player controls the psyker until after all blows have been struck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 14:47:49
Subject: MSS and force weapons
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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NecronLord3 wrote:nosferatu1001 wrote:So RAW it cannot activate. And? Has no bearing, whatsoever, on the subject at hand - which is that MSS cannot force the psyker to spend a warp charge point and take a psychic test.
Except by RAW it can, as the Necron player controls the psyker until after all blows have been struck[.
This is where you are wrong. The only "control" the Necron player has is what weapon is used.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 14:47:53
Subject: MSS and force weapons
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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NecronLord3 wrote:nosferatu1001 wrote:So RAW it cannot activate. And? Has no bearing, whatsoever, on the subject at hand - which is that MSS cannot force the psyker to spend a warp charge point and take a psychic test.
Except by RAW it can, as the Necron player controls the psyker until after all blows have been struck.
And there you go, making the same "mistake" as Yad et al did. He has control for the specified actions only and no others, as explicitly denoted in the MSS rule.
Or have you not actually read the thread to this point, where your argument has been proven wrong over and over and over and over and over....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 14:49:07
Subject: MSS and force weapons
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Happyjew wrote: Stoff3 wrote: But some are horny for cheese and would not like to give it up.
I do love  . Especially Pepper Jack...mmmm...pepper jack...
Damn you!  I have tried to forget about that cheese for some time now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 14:51:40
Subject: MSS and force weapons
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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nosferatu1001 wrote: NecronLord3 wrote:nosferatu1001 wrote:So RAW it cannot activate. And? Has no bearing, whatsoever, on the subject at hand - which is that MSS cannot force the psyker to spend a warp charge point and take a psychic test.
Except by RAW it can, as the Necron player controls the psyker until after all blows have been struck.
And there you go, making the same "mistake" as Yad et al did. He has control for the specified actions only and no others, as explicitly denoted in the MSS rule.
Or have you not actually read the thread to this point, where your argument has been proven wrong over and over and over and over and over....
No I've read the whole thing. You are just wrong in every way, as usual. You don't need specific permission for everything. You are given blanket control of the model, for the defined time, of which the activation of force weapons not only can take place but in some instances MUST take place.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 14:54:23
Subject: MSS and force weapons
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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NecronLord3 wrote:nosferatu1001 wrote: NecronLord3 wrote:nosferatu1001 wrote:So RAW it cannot activate. And? Has no bearing, whatsoever, on the subject at hand - which is that MSS cannot force the psyker to spend a warp charge point and take a psychic test.
Except by RAW it can, as the Necron player controls the psyker until after all blows have been struck.
And there you go, making the same "mistake" as Yad et al did. He has control for the specified actions only and no others, as explicitly denoted in the MSS rule.
Or have you not actually read the thread to this point, where your argument has been proven wrong over and over and over and over and over....
No I've read the whole thing. You are just wrong in every way, as usual.
Haha, this is getting quite hilarious  You guys have been trying to change your arguments the entire thread, with no success. Link some text that states that the MSS text actually overrides the BRB rules for Force instead. Otherwise give up the cheese mister!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 14:57:44
Subject: MSS and force weapons
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Yeah! Some of us are hungry.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 15:46:39
Subject: MSS and force weapons
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This is going nowhere anymore. The arguments have been articulated plenty of times now.
If you have posted more than once in this thread, I hope you have written a nice detailed email to GW asking about the issue, so hopefully it can be included in the next FAQ update.
Thanks.
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