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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 13:37:02
Subject: Re:HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Zealous Knight
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Slinky wrote:There are so many characters though, I'm sure they won't do them all - Othere Wyrdmake etc etc.
no, maybe not on the first run. But rest assured, they'll be milking this for the next decade...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 14:22:53
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Picked up the book last night.
It is stunning. Absolutely worth the price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 15:44:03
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Harriticus wrote:We need all 18 Primarchs, that's the thing many have been waiting for this series. The Emperor might be impossible to put on tabletop though, but if you want to do the final battle on the Vengeful Spirit he'd be a must.
I agree - only that's 19 Primarchs, right?
And I think they've said the Emperor will be getting a model/rules.
I think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 16:01:26
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Yes. But that's several years down the line...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 16:47:09
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Questions for those who have the book (or should we start a separate thread for these?):
1) Does it have rules for Contemptor Dreadnoughts, and if so, do they differ from those published in IA books?
2) What are the jetbikes like?
3) Can legion armies take allies or be allies?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 17:04:06
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Cannot properly answer #1 as I do not own the IA books, unfortunately.
#2
Operate according to the rules found for Jetbikes on page 45 of the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook.
Minimum of three jetbikes per squadron, leading up to an additional seven for the total of ten.
May all take melta bombs.
One in three may replace heavy bolter with multi-melta, volkite culvarin or the plasma cannon.
Usual upgrades, to be honest.
#3
Yes. There is an allies matrix in the book. It represents the trust and discord between the varying legions across a spectrum.
Sworn Brothers.
Fellow Brothers.
Distrusted Allies.
By the Emperor's Command (or the Warmaster's)
As an example; the Space Wolves and Thousand Sons are ranked at By the Emperor's Command. Only will they fight under the direst of circumstances, so on so forth. Emperor's Children and the Iron Hands are Sworn Brothers.
Of course, it cannot be used properly yet due to the obvious lack of information for the other fifteen legions. In time, the gaps will be fulfilled. There is also mention of Agents working for or against either side. These will be, according to the text, detailed in later publications.
Hope it helps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 17:55:42
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Crimson wrote:Questions for those who have the book (or should we start a separate thread for these?):
1) Does it have rules for Contemptor Dreadnoughts, and if so, do they differ from those published in IA books?
2) What are the jetbikes like?
3) Can legion armies take allies or be allies?
Cannot really answer this without breaking the Forum rules.
However, yes they have Contemptors.
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Collecting Forge World 30k????? If you prefix any Thread Subject line on 30k or Pre-heresy or Horus Heresy with [30K] we can convince LEGO and the Admin team to create a 30K mini board if we can show there is enough interest! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 21:26:48
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Book and angoran showed up in the mail today not sure why considering the price but was actually shocked by the quality of the book
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 21:46:54
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Positive?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 21:53:01
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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mwnciboo wrote: Crimson wrote:Questions for those who have the book (or should we start a separate thread for these?):
1) Does it have rules for Contemptor Dreadnoughts, and if so, do they differ from those published in IA books?
2) What are the jetbikes like?
3) Can legion armies take allies or be allies?
Cannot really answer this without breaking the Forum rules.
However, yes they have Contemptors.
Have I missed something or is posting about what's in the books against forum rules?
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My Armies:
5,500pts
2,700pts
2,000pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 21:53:07
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah much nicer then I expected. I didnt know much about the book before ordering it so was expecting just another crappy book but its actually a pretty good size, feels like good quality. Still not happy about the price for it but dont feel as bad. Much happier then i expected to be
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 22:07:34
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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ironicsilence wrote:
yeah much nicer then I expected. I didnt know much about the book before ordering it so was expecting just another crappy book but its actually a pretty good size, feels like good quality. Still not happy about the price for it but dont feel as bad. Much happier then i expected to be
Nice. I agree, it is an exceptional book. The pricing debate has been flogged to death in various other threads. However, as far as I am concerned, it is most certainly worth the £70 when compared to the money-sink that are my photography degree books. This FW book is positively rammed with information, beautiful diagrams and interesting army lists. Will definitely be purchasing the next publication.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 22:21:57
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah sadly I'll also be purchasing all future books...and primarch models...suppose in the long run I could be wasting money is worse things.... addicted...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 22:42:44
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Harriticus wrote: mwnciboo wrote: Crimson wrote:Questions for those who have the book (or should we start a separate thread for these?):
1) Does it have rules for Contemptor Dreadnoughts, and if so, do they differ from those published in IA books?
2) What are the jetbikes like?
3) Can legion armies take allies or be allies?
Cannot really answer this without breaking the Forum rules.
However, yes they have Contemptors.
Have I missed something or is posting about what's in the books against forum rules?
Sorry, just checked the Dakka rules and there is nothing on there, on other Forums I go on they are hot this kind of thing especially statlines and points. Posting too much can lead to problems, Stat lines, points costings, rules, special rules etc. We can talk pretty broadbrush about it, but writing up reams of Information is a bit cheeky. Especially when people are paying £70 for a beautiful book (It is totally worth it if you are Heresy Fan).
Also copywrite infringement, so all in all there are levels of etiquette we all observe on Wargaming Forums such as not posting up scanned pages of Codices/ codex's or writing a complete copy of a ruleset or new model. Writing a review is fine, putting tons of detail in less so.
Not sure what Dakka's Official line on this is, but I would hazard a guess that broadbrush is okay sticking too much would be bad, maybe we need the official line.
Anyway to answer the above in a roundabout way just in case go here.
http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/betrayal-contemptors-allies-and-more.html
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Collecting Forge World 30k????? If you prefix any Thread Subject line on 30k or Pre-heresy or Horus Heresy with [30K] we can convince LEGO and the Admin team to create a 30K mini board if we can show there is enough interest! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 18:43:05
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I have a quick question for you guys in the states who ordered the book. I ordered mine this past Friday online with express shipping to the US east coast. I was wondering how long it takes on average for FW to actually package and ship the item out. I can track it once they send me the number but waiting on them to do so is killing me. I have never ordered something from them personally before. I usually put in a group order at my FLGS every month or two when there is enough money pooled to get the free shipping.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 19:09:50
Subject: Re:HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wish I had the time to paint and display all primarchs with examples from their respective chapters.
GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 19:37:30
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ephrael wrote:I have a quick question for you guys in the states who ordered the book. I ordered mine this past Friday online with express shipping to the US east coast. I was wondering how long it takes on average for FW to actually package and ship the item out. I can track it once they send me the number but waiting on them to do so is killing me. I have never ordered something from them personally before. I usually put in a group order at my FLGS every month or two when there is enough money pooled to get the free shipping.
I ordered mine the day i went on sale with regular shipping (is express the standard?) and it came yesterday. FW is generally 2-3 weeks for me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 20:58:02
Subject: Re:HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I picked up mine from Games Workshops Helsinki store a few days ago. I paid about 90 euros for it. Great book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 22:39:45
Subject: Re:HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Brother Khyron wrote:I picked up mine from Games Workshops Helsinki store a few days ago. I paid about 90 euros for it. Great book.
Express actually costs even more on top of the standard cost of shipping. What I'm really wondering is how long it usually takes them to ship the order after it is placed?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 22:58:01
Subject: Re:HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Fresh-Faced New User
Southern Finland
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I did not order it from the FW site. The store staff placed a order for this book, for a group of people who were interested. I was one of them..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 22:59:58
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Actually that's why you don't order experss shipping from FW. The shipping sure is fast - I had a package arrive a day and a half after it shipped, and this is from UK to OZ - but that day and a half shipping time came after the two month wait for them to actually ship it. Not worth the £40, that's for certain. I went FW's regular 15% shipping this time around. Took a week and a half.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 23:14:05
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Actually that's why you don't order experss shipping from FW.
The shipping sure is fast - I had a package arrive a day and a half after it shipped, and this is from UK to OZ - but that day and a half shipping time came after the two month wait for them to actually ship it. Not worth the £40, that's for certain.
I went FW's regular 15% shipping this time around. Took a week and a half.
Thanks for the information. looks like I'll be calling FW tomorrow. There is no way I'm paying $165US for a book+express shipping and waiting a month for them to hand it to UPS. I expect my express stuff to be shipped within two business days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 23:31:07
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Sadly that's not how FW operate. Can't blame UPS - their shipping was perfect and super-speedy - but it should have left FW within a day of ordering or they should not offer express shipping.
So just go with regular. It's worth the wait.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 23:41:38
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Sadly that's not how FW operate. Can't blame UPS - their shipping was perfect and super-speedy - but it should have left FW within a day of ordering or they should not offer express shipping.
So just go with regular. It's worth the wait.
I'll let you know how it goes after I call. The order has been Acknowledged on the 12th which was Friday I would expect to see it packed and shipped on Monday. I'll call Monday afternoon to confirm that this is indeed their plan.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/14 23:42:52
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Sadly that's not how FW operate. Can't blame UPS - their shipping was perfect and super-speedy - but it should have left FW within a day of ordering or they should not offer express shipping.
So just go with regular. It's worth the wait.
I almost had to give UPS a call for my package...they delivered it to the right number house, sadly the street they delivered it too was 2 blocks from my house. Thankfully A nice neighbor brought me the package
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/15 08:20:36
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Alpharius wrote: Harriticus wrote:We need all 18 Primarchs, that's the thing many have been waiting for this series. The Emperor might be impossible to put on tabletop though, but if you want to do the final battle on the Vengeful Spirit he'd be a must.
I agree - only that's 19 Primarchs, right?
And I think they've said the Emperor will be getting a model/rules.
I think?
They only need to represent 17 primarchs. Alpharius and Omegon could theoretically be represented by an ordinary marine. Automatically Appended Next Post: Fireball wrote:
Wow, I also like the "Legion Champion" ... so much great stuff ...
I was looking at that one and I see that he has a wrist mounted volkite weapon. Finally a model of the weapon that the 25th Anniversary Crimson Fist model should have been armed with rather than the plasma pistol they gave him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/15 09:10:29
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Norn Queen
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cadbren wrote: Alpharius wrote: Harriticus wrote:We need all 18 Primarchs, that's the thing many have been waiting for this series. The Emperor might be impossible to put on tabletop though, but if you want to do the final battle on the Vengeful Spirit he'd be a must. I agree - only that's 19 Primarchs, right? And I think they've said the Emperor will be getting a model/rules. I think? They only need to represent 17 primarchs. Alpharius and Omegon could theoretically be represented by an ordinary marine. No they couldn't. They're still described in Legion as being very noticeably bigger than ordinary Marines. Sure, they'd be fairly plain, but they've still got the stature of a primarch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/15 10:27:24
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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And does anyone think even for a second that they wouldn't release an Alpharius/Omeagon duo box? I mean, what was more likely: Scenario #1 FW Designer: Hey guys! Let's make two regular sized unadorned Marines in Mk.III armour with Alpha Legion pads and call 'em Primarchs. ... or... Scenario #2 FW Designer: Let's do a pair of crazily detailed twin Primarchs with big baroque shoulder pads, and mirrored poses and weapons!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/15 10:30:28
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote:And does anyone think even for a second that they wouldn't release an Alpharius/Omeagon duo box?
I mean, what was more likely:
Scenario #1
FW Designer: Hey guys! Let's make two regular sized unadorned Marines in Mk.III armour with Alpha Legion pads and call 'em Primarchs.
... or...
Scenario #2
FW Designer: Let's do a pair of crazily detailed twin Primarchs with big baroque shoulder pads, and mirrored poses and weapons!!!
And charge more money than the other primarchs since they are getting two of them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/15 10:59:23
Subject: HH products now available! (AKA The New Ongoing FW HH News and Rumors Thread!)
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I had a quick leaf through the book yesterday at my GM's house. Damn it's looking good and to me, yes, it is worth the money in terms of what you get.
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