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Loving the tank and the terminators.

The HH: Betrayal book is still a tax return or so away for me...

Can anyone give me a preview of what the Neutron Laser's stats are like?

I would except I lent my book to a friend. Damn it!

But, if we take an oh-so-cynical guess, I'd say it's stats are "Not worth the points you pay". That's just a general guess for most FW things though.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The interesting part about that new tank is the paint scheme - Iron Hands.


And those are some sexy Terminators.

My thoughts exactly.

I didn't know the iron hands green armour pre-heresy.

 Alpharius wrote:
The HH: Betrayal book is still a tax return or so away for me...

Can anyone give me a preview of what the Neutron Laser's stats are like?

395 points for a twin-linked 72" Str 10 AP 1 Ordnance D3 weapon.

The Deathshroud are beautiful models, and would make great Chaos Terminators. Shame they are forty five pounds , and with the Chaos Daemons codex out in Feb, I'd have to really milk my Birthday for the cash which I don't want to do.

Maybe next Christmas then.

 Alpharius wrote:
The HH: Betrayal book is still a tax return or so away for me...

Can anyone give me a preview of what the Neutron Laser's stats are like?

It's nice But if it fails to pen the armour of it's target, you roll a d6 and if the result is a 1 the Cerberus suffers an auto pen with -1 to the result.

It's a super heavy frame with 2 SP (6 HP), right?

 kronk wrote:
It's a super heavy frame with 2 SP (6 HP), right?

Correct.

£45 for deathshrouds ?
really?

tataros come with alot more for £36

guess i cant afford these

£45 makes the deathshroud the same price as Cataphracti terminators (with arms) and cheaper than the justarians. Love the look of them even if I have no use for them.

The Tartaros are cheaper, but the Deathshroud are much nicer models IMO. Forge world is never cheap

Also, they're the same price as Cataphractii plus a weapons set so not too bad (relatively speaking).

jim_giraffe wrote:
£45 for deathshrouds ?
really?

tataros come with alot more for £36

guess i cant afford these

I don't see any tataros terminators on the FW site. Maybe I'm missing them.

The Justaerin terminators are £35 with no weapons, and the weapons cost £12, making them £47 for 5.

The Cataphractii are £33 with no weapons, and the weapons cost either £12 or £16 (depends on the set), making them £45 or £49 for a set of 5.

Not that I think that £45 is reasonable.

Any bets/ rumours as to when Mortarion will be released given we've got the Deathshroud now?

Also hoping they bring out a power scyth weapon pack - the recent weapons pack seemed to have everything except them :(

Dundas wrote:
The Tartaros are cheaper, but the Deathshroud are much nicer models IMO. Forge world is never cheap

Also, they're the same price as Cataphractii plus a weapons set so not too bad (relatively speaking).

very true but when you buy a weapons set you always have a few spares for conversions etc , not in the case of these deathshroud.

i feel sad :(

 kronk wrote:

jim_giraffe wrote:
£45 for deathshrouds ?
really?

tataros come with alot more for £36

guess i cant afford these

I don't see any tataros terminators on the FW site. Maybe I'm missing them.

The Justaerin terminators are £35 with no weapons, and the weapons cost £12, making them £47 for 5.

The Cataphractii are £33 with no weapons, and the weapons cost either £12 or £16 (depends on the set), making them £45 or £49 for a set of 5.

Not that I think that £45 is reasonable.

Tartaros aren't under the HH section.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/TARTAROS_PATTERN_TERMINATOR_ARMOUR.html

Oh yeah! I forgot about those. I've been drooling over the HH stuff so much, lately.

That's a more reasonable price for terminators with weapons. The rest have the HH tax, I suppose.

I have a question about the new tank. Are the ammo canisters for the sponson guns on the outside? Am I just seeing it wrong? It just seems silly.

"Hey, park the tank really quick. I need to get out and reload."

 BrookM wrote:
395 points for a twin-linked 72" Str 10 AP 1 Ordnance D3 weapon.

So...... I was right.

 blood reaper wrote:
The Deathshroud are beautiful models, and would make great Chaos Terminators. Shame they are forty five pounds

Thats $72 USD. Plus shipping. that


...and I really like them too. Shame.

 Mad4Minis wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
The Deathshroud are beautiful models, and would make great Chaos Terminators. Shame they are forty five pounds

Thats $72 USD. Plus shipping. that


...and I really like them too. Shame.

The easiest answer is to get you and 5 friends to go in on an order, buying 1 squad per person, and you'll get it without paying for shipping.

Yeah, I've done a couple 'forge world' collections with my mates. It's probably the best way to do it. For example, once you get 2 people wanting to buy Betrayal in the first place, you end up most of the way there.

£45 for Terminators? I was considering of buying the Deathshroud... now I'm not too sure, seems a little steep for five guys.

[Edit] Now I have compared the price of them to the other Forgeworld Terminators and GW Chaos Terminators plus FW DG upgrades the Deathshroud appear quite reasonably priced.

Despite the steep price for the Deathshroud, I am still really tempted. Difficult to pass up the first 40k power scythes. They just scream Nurgle.

 Savageconvoy wrote:
I have a question about the new tank. Are the ammo canisters for the sponson guns on the outside? Am I just seeing it wrong? It just seems silly.

"Hey, park the tank really quick. I need to get out and reload."

That's standard for all sponson weapons on these tanks unfortunately. It's also true for the heavy bolters on the plastic GW preds but at least the external hoppers on those are huge rather than the small drums on the heresy ones.
Very much like the look of the tank as a whole.

Really can't get into the whole 'space farmer' look of the deathshrouds though. I almost expect to see a bare head option chewing straw for these guys. A-yup, reckon we can clear those weeds for you'.

Also, they're called the Deathshrouds, so ah...where are the shrouds? None of them are wearing one.

Also, they're called the Deathshrouds, so ah...where are the shrouds? None of them are wearing one.

To be fair, I think the idea is that they are shrouded by death itself. No one knows the identities of these guardians and as such they are non living, shadows of Mortarion's bidding.

 MetalOxide wrote:
£45 for Terminators? I was considering of buying the Deathshroud... now I'm not too sure, seems a little steep for five guys.

[Edit] Now I have compared the price of them to the other Forgeworld Terminators and GW Chaos Terminators plus FW DG upgrades the Deathshroud appear quite reasonably priced.

Isn't that sad? We're at a point where GW has reached parity with FW in terms of pricing. :/

Are the heads/helmets of the Deathshroud separate?

 Breotan wrote:

 MetalOxide wrote:
£45 for Terminators? I was considering of buying the Deathshroud... now I'm not too sure, seems a little steep for five guys.

[Edit] Now I have compared the price of them to the other Forgeworld Terminators and GW Chaos Terminators plus FW DG upgrades the Deathshroud appear quite reasonably priced.

Isn't that sad? We're at a point where GW has reached parity with FW in terms of pricing. :/

Indeed. What's even worse is when (not if) gw prices exceed fw prices, either fw will have to price match or it'll become the 'budget' side of 40k where you can get a cheaper models than gw main even though, perversely, they are of a higher quality!

Well option 2 is certainly something I wouldn't mind.