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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 17:06:07
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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hey guys, first crack at the new CSM, wanted mostly nurgle and I got this
not sure though since I dont have much for high armor targets (but then again they are quite rare here)
typhus - 230
Sorcerer - MoN, palaquin, level 3, sigil of corruption - 190
cultists - 35 man, zombies - 150
cultists - 35 man, zombies - 150
cultists - 20 man, 2x heavy stubbers - 100
cultists - 20 man, 2x heavy stubbers - 100
plague marines - 8 man, champ(powerfist, gift of mutation), vets'o'long war, 2x plasmaguns, rhino - 300
plague marines - 8 man, champ(powerfist, gift of mutation), vets'o'long war, 2x plasmaguns, rhino - 300
havocs - 8 man, icon of vengeance, 4x ML with flakk - 239
havocs - 8 man, icon of vengeance, 4x ML with flakk - 239
1998/2000
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I have half a mind to kill you, and the other half agrees |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 17:07:49
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Very nice list.
Just a note, Plague Marines are Fearless aren't they? So why VoTLW on them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 17:10:07
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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oh they are fearless lol, read over that XD
but it does give hatred(marines) so theres that, and there are some Ld things that have happened that go past fearless (like the "take Ld test thats not morale so fearless does nothing" sorta thing)
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I have half a mind to kill you, and the other half agrees |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 18:12:45
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Regular Dakkanaut
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List is illegal. Plague Zombies cannot go over 10.
Typhus: "no options can be taken."
Cultists: "Options: May add up to....."
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GWAR wrote:Lol PBS are Psyker Battle Squads and are in the IG codex lolololol!!!1!!!1!!11eleventyone!!!!!!11!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 18:22:57
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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BewareOfTom wrote:oh they are fearless lol, read over that XD
but it does give hatred(marines) so theres that, and there are some Ld things that have happened that go past fearless (like the "take Ld test thats not morale so fearless does nothing" sorta thing)
There's very few such tests though, and Hatred is a combat only upgrade, which though competent t i, I reckon in this list the Plague Marines are better to stay shooting.
Emp. wrote:List is illegal. Plague Zombies cannot go over 10.
Typhus: "no options can be taken."
Cultists: "Options: May add up to....."
This is debated highly and most players agree that it is an obvious mistake in the book that will be FAQ'ed, so if people in his club acknowledge that then he's fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 18:24:43
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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alright, well then if I drop that, what do you think I should use the 16ish pts on? 4 more cultists?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 20:46:32
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Morphing Obliterator
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Godless-Mimicry wrote:
Emp. wrote:List is illegal. Plague Zombies cannot go over 10.
Typhus: "no options can be taken."
Cultists: "Options: May add up to....."
This is debated highly and most players agree that it is an obvious mistake in the book that will be FAQ'ed, so if people in his club acknowledge that then he's fine.
Well, at first i thought it was a mistake but after looking closely at the entry... if you think allowing a 35 man unit of fearless with 6+ armor and fearless... thats way to OP for holding objectives
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CSM 10k points
IG 3k points
Orks 2k points
WoC 3.5k points
VC 2.5k points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 20:53:01
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Lord Yayula wrote: Godless-Mimicry wrote:
Emp. wrote:List is illegal. Plague Zombies cannot go over 10.
Typhus: "no options can be taken."
Cultists: "Options: May add up to....."
This is debated highly and most players agree that it is an obvious mistake in the book that will be FAQ'ed, so if people in his club acknowledge that then he's fine.
Well, at first i thought it was a mistake but after looking closely at the entry... if you think allowing a 35 man unit of fearless with 6+ armor and fearless... thats way to OP for holding objectives
So you think because it is OP it couldn't possibly be in the book as an option? Do you play the same game that the rest of us do?
As for being OP, no, they really aren't. They are T3, and can't kill for crap. Their only purpose is to sit on objectives and hold it with their 5+ save, a save which isn't all that impressive when you start shooting at them and wounds wrack up so quick.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 20:54:49
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Been Around the Block
CA
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Nurgle Number is 7 not 8
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Waaaaaaaaaaggghhh!!!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 21:10:34
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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well you could argue that the champion doesnt count
and I'd rather have 8 guys per squad then random upgrades.... just my luck I need more bodies
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 21:17:07
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Furious Raptor
Fort Worth, TX
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Godless-Mimicry wrote: Lord Yayula wrote: Godless-Mimicry wrote:
Emp. wrote:List is illegal. Plague Zombies cannot go over 10.
Typhus: "no options can be taken."
Cultists: "Options: May add up to....."
This is debated highly and most players agree that it is an obvious mistake in the book that will be FAQ'ed, so if people in his club acknowledge that then he's fine.
Well, at first i thought it was a mistake but after looking closely at the entry... if you think allowing a 35 man unit of fearless with 6+ armor and fearless... thats way to OP for holding objectives
So you think because it is OP it couldn't possibly be in the book as an option? Do you play the same game that the rest of us do?
As for being OP, no, they really aren't. They are T3, and can't kill for crap. Their only purpose is to sit on objectives and hold it with their 5+ save, a save which isn't all that impressive when you start shooting at them and wounds wrack up so quick.
Amen. Just about every weapon is going to remove that 6+ armor save and an S6 weapon, like an assault cannon, is going to remove FNP. Templates and blasts are going to wreck them. That 6+ armor and 5+ FNP isn't going to save them from that. It's hardly OP at all. If someone makes the mistake of getting into CC with them, well, then that's their fault.
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I out with in both 40k and WHFB.
Co-host of the HittingOn3s Podcast
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 22:25:48
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Morphing Obliterator
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Its a 150 point unit... and i'm not assuming the codex is pretty clear not allowing it go beyond 10, i just think you are getting your hopes high if you think this will be FAQed to be allowed to increase the number of zombies you can field
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CSM 10k points
IG 3k points
Orks 2k points
WoC 3.5k points
VC 2.5k points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 23:11:33
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
Connecticut
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Lord Yayula wrote: Godless-Mimicry wrote:
Emp. wrote:List is illegal. Plague Zombies cannot go over 10.
Typhus: "no options can be taken."
Cultists: "Options: May add up to....."
This is debated highly and most players agree that it is an obvious mistake in the book that will be FAQ'ed, so if people in his club acknowledge that then he's fine.
Well, at first i thought it was a mistake but after looking closely at the entry... if you think allowing a 35 man unit of fearless with 6+ armor and fearless... thats way to OP for holding objectives
One word .. Conscripts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 23:47:55
Subject: Re:first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Slippery Scout Biker
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The rules says they may not purchase options.....no word on no options may be taken lol.....the only thing listed in the entry one may "purchase" is marks I can do quotes and be a tool too! also I dig the list!
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I own way to many Chaos Daemon models...why do I need over 200 pink horrors?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 23:50:18
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Lord Yayula wrote:Its a 150 point unit... and i'm not assuming the codex is pretty clear not allowing it go beyond 10, i just think you are getting your hopes high if you think this will be FAQed to be allowed to increase the number of zombies you can field
I'm not getting my hopes high at all, as I play Slaanesh so it makes no difference to me, but I am a realist, and it seems like a pretty obvious mistake to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 23:52:30
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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alright, well for everyone else please assume that this is allowed
this look good so far for what we know on the dex?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 00:09:04
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Dakka Veteran
Snake Mountain
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Obvious mistake or not I'd accept whats in the book as gospel until that faq comes, most people I know wouldn't accept that. I'm not arguing it but a lot of people may/will.
In terms of the list, I like it, it's all round pretty solid but the VotLW is a bit circumstancial but if you are up against marines often then stick with it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 04:44:00
Subject: first crack at new CSM - 2k
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Furious Raptor
Fort Worth, TX
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Lord Yayula wrote:Its a 150 point unit... and i'm not assuming the codex is pretty clear not allowing it go beyond 10, i just think you are getting your hopes high if you think this will be FAQed to be allowed to increase the number of zombies you can field
Yup, a 150 point unit that is going to be decimated by templates, blasts, bolters, and the like. On top of that, an assault cannon is going to double them out, so FNP does no good, and they go at I3, so a good number of units are going to CC them first and wound them on 3+...35 gets whittled down extremely quick. We shall see. If I'm wrong, then so be it. I honestly won't complain.
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I out with in both 40k and WHFB.
Co-host of the HittingOn3s Podcast
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